vvvslaxman Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 https://www.crictracker.com/his-adaptability-to-all-formats-is-just-crazy-allan-donald-explains-why-jasprit-bumrah-stands-above-the-rest/ Sadly he may go Kapil's way. All the oppositions had to do was seeing off Kapil and targeting others. With utter lack of support from other end he may see less returns. Although he originally became famous for yorkers like Malinga, he deviated away from that gradually and became more a complete bowler. Not just a guy who alternates between fast yorker/slow yorker. Shami has done a fabulous job in complementing Bumrah in Tests. Siraj did in patches. Ishant also did in patches. But in one dayers he needs a better partner. Would love to see a left arm seamer partnering. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I hope India rests Bumrah for these useless ODIs & T20s. Lord 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) I would like Khaleel to be back for ODIs to partner Bumrah. Edited January 22, 2022 by rkt.india Link to comment
Pollack Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, SK_IH said: I hope India rests Bumrah for these useless ODIs & T20s. These matches are where he shines the most. In the most important matches he goes missing or is just about average. Vijy and Norman 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 17 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: https://www.crictracker.com/his-adaptability-to-all-formats-is-just-crazy-allan-donald-explains-why-jasprit-bumrah-stands-above-the-rest/ Sadly he may go Kapil's way. All the oppositions had to do was seeing off Kapil and targeting others. With utter lack of support from other end he may see less returns. Although he originally became famous for yorkers like Malinga, he deviated away from that gradually and became more a complete bowler. Not just a guy who alternates between fast yorker/slow yorker. Shami has done a fabulous job in complementing Bumrah in Tests. Siraj did in patches. Ishant also did in patches. But in one dayers he needs a better partner. Would love to see a left arm seamer partnering. boom has not been that good in odis for 2 yrs now. Link to comment
Jay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Vijy said: boom has not been that good in odis for 2 yrs now. Booms Cummins are both **** odi bowlers now at wicket taking. Even starc Believe it or not I posted the actual records vs big 4 sides including Pakistan for all bowlers. Guess who was number 1 vs top sides? Shami. Shami is underrated. But where bumrah beats others is economy. Bumrah is good if we need to defend big totals on pattas. Shami is the best at wicket taking. Shami rabada and then hazelwood have the best records vs big 4. If shami had opportunity to play on bouncy flat wickets of s.a and Australia his record would be even more impressive. Too bad he is old now. He has been playing since 2013. 8 years now...only 2 more years left. Sad times for us. Edited January 23, 2022 by Jay AuxiliA 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Jay said: Booms Cummins are both **** odi bowlers. Even starc Believe it or not I posted the actual records vs big 4 sides including Pakistan for all bowlers. Guess who was number 1 vs top sides? Shami. Shami is underrated. But where bumrah beats others is economy. Bumrah is good if we need to defend big totals on pattas. Shami is the best at wicket taking. Shami rabada and then hazelwood have the best records vs big 4. If shami had opportunity to play on bouncy flat wickets of s.a and Australia his record would be even more impressive. Apart from NZ nobody has scored much of him. They consciously see him off. His IPL reputation is also a reason. Also he is not primarily a ODI bowler. He is also a Test bowler. So his malingasque type yorkers lost its accuracy somewhat. Actually in Tests he bowls better yorkers than in ODIs. Jay 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Apart from NZ nobody has scored much of him. They consciously see him off. His IPL reputation is also a reason. Also he is not primarily a ODI bowler. He is also a Test bowler. So his malingasque type yorkers lost its accuracy somewhat. Actually in Tests he bowls better yorkers than in ODIs. Ya booms is the perfect test and t20 bowler. He is awful in odi. Only good at containing in odi. I think we should drop him from odi personally or use him as first change. Use him in middle. Open with prasidh and siraj. Booms can't swing white ball. He can be deadly in the middle. Also I truly believe booms can be deadly as first change rather than opening in tests. We need proper swing bowlers with bouncer ability to open. Siraj and shami or prasidh again fit that purpose. Booms can be deadly as first change. Look at australia. Cummins is first change. Hazlewood and starc open mostly. Cummins does operate as an opener too but not always the case. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Ya booms is the perfect test and t20 bowler. He is awful in odi. Only good at containing in odi. I think we should drop him from odi personally or use him as first change. Use him in middle. Open with prasidh and siraj. Booms can't swing white ball. He can be deadly in the middle. Also I truly believe booms can be deadly as first change rather than opening in tests. We need proper swing bowlers with bouncer ability to open. Siraj and shami or prasidh again fit that purpose. Booms can be deadly as first change. Look at australia. Cummins is first change. Hazlewood and starc open mostly. Cummins does operate as an opener too but not always the case. If India has to defend like 15 runs in 2 overs. Bumrah will be the only go to bowler we have. So he does have a role. His tight bowling will get us wickets from other end. Also he is still one of the best yorker exponent in the side despite drop in accuracy. Probably he can avoid taking part in the bilaterals. He doesn't go full throttle which is understandable. Even in the IPL this season he wasn't at his very best. He has to manage his workload given the amount of bowling he does. Cummins also has excessive workload. So he also takes it easy. Link to comment
vivek04 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Praise indian players get IPL contract. All are pretending like bumrah is cut above all the bowlers but seeing the performances in crunch moments he has been ordinary. In limited overs cricket he is below average not providing initial breakthroughs. Indian cricket is on the downhill because of poor selections and not grooming/ induction of fast bowlers in the team at the right time. Edited January 23, 2022 by vivek04 Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Jay said: Booms Cummins are both **** odi bowlers now at wicket taking. Even starc Believe it or not I posted the actual records vs big 4 sides including Pakistan for all bowlers. Guess who was number 1 vs top sides? Shami. Shami is underrated. But where bumrah beats others is economy. Bumrah is good if we need to defend big totals on pattas. Shami is the best at wicket taking. Shami rabada and then hazelwood have the best records vs big 4. If shami had opportunity to play on bouncy flat wickets of s.a and Australia his record would be even more impressive. Too bad he is old now. He has been playing since 2013. 8 years now...only 2 more years left. Sad times for us. Pakistan is not a big 4 side in ODIs. That would be Ind, NZ, Eng, and Aus. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vijy said: Pakistan is not a big 4 side in ODIs. That would be Ind, NZ, Eng, and Aus. Yes but for india they would be in big 4. You get it? Doesn't matter but yes shami is the best bowler vs big 4. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Yes but for india they would be in big 4. You get it? Doesn't matter but yes shami is the best bowler vs big 4. doubtful if pak merits even no. 5, but perhaps they can added because of the extra pressure in ind-pak matches. shami is old, won't be playing ODIs for much longer (if at all) Link to comment
Jay Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, Vijy said: doubtful if pak merits even no. 5, but perhaps they can added because of the extra pressure in ind-pak matches. shami is old, won't be playing ODIs for much longer (if at all) Yes. Link to comment
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