Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) Bhuvneshwar Kumar in T20Is since 2021: 20.3 avg, 6.74 eco Very happy with his return, if he keeps bowling well we have our 2nd all phase bowler. Bhuvi has been avg in ODI but damn good in t20s before his injuries started. I still dont think he is bowling at his best but yet these are excellent numbers. 2 all phase bowler gives us great flexibility in making bowling combination Edited August 12, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03 beetle, Lord, Vijy and 2 others 2 2 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 Keep him away from other formats for an year and let him play now every t20 game.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 what a beauty of a delivery ...............he did this to a Peak butler what he use to do to finch beetle 1
Lord Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 failed when it mattered despite good form Not sure Aus wickets will help him much too. Vijy, Frustrated and express bowling 3
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Lord said: failed when it mattered despite good form where? 19 minutes ago, Lord said: Not sure Aus wickets will help him much too. I dnt know where that myth comes from , swing is in air and he is an all phase bowler which means he has variations . This is the same kind of ball he has used against finch in Aus. Under light ball always swings Guys like Praveen kumar, irfan, balaji, kulasekra, mohit sharma all have done well in Aus Edited July 8, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03 beetle 1
Lord Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: where? WT20 Just now, Ankit_sharma03 said: I dnt know where that myth comes from , swing is in air and he is an all phase bowler which means he has variations Guys like Praveen kumar, irfan, balaji, kulasekra, mohit sharma all have done well in Aus White ball doesnt swing for long anymore.In England,NZ etc the cooler conditions aid movement. Aus is more pace and bounce friendly Not sure he can nail yorkers like before too. Not seen it lately. Mostly uses knuckle ball in death. I don't mind him but feel Deepak Chahar can give similar returns if not better while being better fit for no. 7/8 express bowling 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, Lord said: WT20 Konsa wc t20 ? Just now, Lord said: White ball doesnt swing for long anymore.In England,NZ etc the cooler conditions aid movement. Aus is more pace and bounce friendly England n Nz have been on flattest side mostly White ball swings for 3-5 overs max now days which is enough in t20 coz by the time a bowler is done with his 2 over spell in t20. In Aus , same bowler who can swing anywhere gets pace n bounce from pitch and becomes from lethal as compare to Eng and Nz where pace n bounce is lesser then Aus . IPL happens in April may and their these guys have swung the ball enough anyone who says it doesnt swing in australia watch this spell - this guy swung the ball till11 th over and that time we use to have just one new ball Just now, Lord said: Not sure he can nail yorkers like before too. Not seen it lately. Mostly uses knuckle ball in death. ye he has been very effective in t20 at death , he has enough variation in slower ones as well not not just knuckle ball. Not to fogret variation isnt just about type of ball its length to Yorkers will get better fitness n rhythem Just now, Lord said: I don't mind him but feel Deepak Chahar can give similar returns if not better while being better fit for no. 7/8 Deepak chahar like umran , prasidh isnt an all phase bowler...............surely he doesnt leak runs like other 2 in his weak phase but bhuvi is an all phase bowler. Deepak has 2 advantage over bhuvi- he takes wkts in cluster unlike bhuvi and has batting too beetle 1
Lord Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Konsa wc t20 ? 2021. Failed in the biggest game when we needed early wickets 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: England n Nz have been on flattest side mostly White ball swings for 3-5 overs max now days which is enough in t20 coz by the time a bowler is done with his 2 over spell in t20. In Aus , same bowler who can swing anywhere gets pace n bounce from pitch and becomes from lethal as compare to Eng and Nz where pace n bounce is lesser then Aus . IPL happens in April may and their these guys have swung the ball enough anyone who says it doesnt swing in australia watch this spell - this guy swung the ball till11 th over and that time we use to have just one new ball Exceptions will be there. I'm sure even in India such spells are there,doesn't mean Indian pitches are known to be swing friendly. In Aus hard lengths will be required at pace 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: ye he has been very effective in t20 at death , he has enough variation in slower ones as well not not just knuckle ball. Not to fogret variation isnt just about type of ball its length to Yorkers will get better fitness n rhythem Deepak chahar like umran , prasidh isnt an all phase bowler...............surely he doesnt leak runs like other 2 in his weak phase but bhuvi is an all phase bowler. Deepak has 2 advantage over bhuvi- he takes wkts in cluster unlike bhuvi and has batting too Avesh,Arshdeep,Nattu and even Siraj are all phase bowlers too.Most of them can bowl hard lengths,specially Avesh. With new ball we'll need wickets and Deepak fits that well.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord said: In Aus hard lengths will be required at pace thats in middle overs, newyas we dont have many options for that Bhuvi is proven performer with that in all phases 1 hour ago, Lord said: Avesh,Arshdeep,Nattu and even Siraj are all phase bowlers too.Most of them can bowl hard lengths,specially Avesh. With new ball we'll need wickets and Deepak fits that well. nattu doesnt bowl hard length neither arshdeep does it much Avesh is mighty inconsistent , our best bet for that role is umran and to play umran u need 2 full phase bowlers
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord said: Exceptions will be there. I'm sure even in India such spells are there,doesn't mean Indian pitches are known to be swing friendly. In Aus hard lengths will be required at pace Its not exception its evidence and lets not forget Praveen kumar in CB series also who was slower then bhuvi In india they have swung the ball many days which shows swing is in air mostly and pitches just provide zip to that ball- add pace bounce to swing it becomes better . Under lights white kookabura will always swing. We mix test and ODI, yes u cant do well with such military medium bowlers in test but LOI are diff ball game. In a place like sydney it will swing or turn in test but the wkt is slow so batsman get time to adjust as compare to other pitches where it gives the extra kick
Chakdephatte Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 2:26 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: Bhuvneshwar Kumar in T20Is since 2021: 20.3 avg, 6.74 eco Very happy with his return, if he keeps bowling well we have our 2nd all phase bowler. Bhuvi has been avg in ODI but damn good in t20s before his injuries started. I still dont think he is bowling at his best but yet these are excellent numbers. 2 all phase bowler gives us great flexibility in making bowling combination Finally you admitted
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Chakdephatte said: Finally you admitted hain ?
Chakdephatte Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: hain ? Your OP here dismissed him.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Posted July 9, 2022 Just now, Chakdephatte said: Your OP here dismissed him. yea becoz he wasnt bowling and struggling with fitness most importantly Now he has been playing non stop without any fitness issue. If he develops fitness problem againt usme i have clearly mentioned Bhuvi - as of now everything seems down for him which meant as of now form fitness swing pace everything is down- in that situation why wud anyone pick him beetle 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: Your OP here dismissed him. and i still say he isnt bowling at his best If you see his old videos ull see the difference in how much he is putting in Edited July 9, 2022 by Ankit_sharma03
Jay Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Can't believe it. There are actually people who love trundlers. But atleast this fellow can swing the ball so that's good. He can also use seam movement. Good stuff bhuvi. .I am happy with him and bumrah in tandem with umran. Rest can be chahar and thakur or harshal whatever. We don't need specilaist spinners in Australia unless they are quality leg spinners. Chahal is not that guy.
coffee_rules Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Take that you haters… @maniac beetle, maniac and Adamant 1 1 1
Lord Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Slightly offtopic,but if we see stats from 2021 or even 2020,most of the team selects itself Here are the numbers since 2020 Rohit : 33@146 Rahul : 36@136 Kohli : 44@136 SKY : 32 @169 Hardik : 35@ 147, bowling 34@8.7 Jaddu : 209@166,bowling 20 @6.8 Bhuvi : 19 @6.67 Bumrah : 17 @5.44 Chahal : 28 @ 8 Only one who misses is Pant but that might be correct with opening for 3rd pacer slot Harshal : 21@8.5 Avesh 25 @ 7.3 Siraj 30 @ 7.6
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