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13 hours ago, Grand_Design said:

I know this government has tried to ban it for obvious reasons but where can I watch it? 

 

I am for free press and all, but this is a propaganda to belittle Modi. I trust lot of news sources, but BBC does not make the list.

 

My advice is to go watch some porn rather than this crap.

 

My opinion, irrespective of our differences Modi is a good person.

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1 Jack Straw and Tony Blair , who have been main characters for basis of this documentary , have actually killed millions of Muslims in Iraq along on pretext of WMD. It’s laughable to see their concerns for around 1000 Indian dieing in a riot.


2. Congress Government was hell bent to finish Modis political career but he survived because of Supreme Court decided to investigate the matter itself and found that there was nothing that Modi could have done ( 2012 . Congress rule) All half baked so called witnesses were proved as liers ang same court decided to punish few NGO heads who it found maliciously made these allegations.
 

But offcourse all fair , concerned colonialists Jack Straw and BBC  do not agree with Indian Courts.


3. Same Courts found that 10 of Muslims of which one being a Congress leader, another Bangladeshi terrorist had a meeting night before train reached Godhra station convicted around 43 of them for burning Hindu pilgrims.

Obviously, bbc, Tony Blair, jack Straw disagrees and doesn’t know how train coach caught fire at station.

 

Conclusion, BBC has blown the bugle for  2024 Indian elections . If BJP gvmnt has kahunas, they should call it out as UK Government direct interference in changing outcome of Indian General election as BBC is funded by public money. Least they could do is sue BBC

 

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4 hours ago, Khota said:

 

I am for free press and all, but this is a propaganda to belittle Modi. I trust lot of news sources, but BBC does not make the list.

 

My advice is to go watch some porn rather than this crap.

 

My opinion, irrespective of our differences Modi is a good person.

Totally agree with you BBC, nytimes and Washington all have agenda against India and never trust them. 

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5 hours ago, mishra said:

1 Jack Straw and Tony Blair , who have been main characters for basis of this documentary , have actually killed millions of Muslims in Iraq along on pretext of WMD. It’s laughable to see their concerns for around 1000 Indian dieing in a riot.


2. Congress Government was hell bent to finish Modis political career but he survived because of Supreme Court decided to investigate the matter itself and found that there was nothing that Modi could have done ( 2012 . Congress rule) All half baked so called witnesses were proved as liers ang same court decided to punish few NGO heads who it found maliciously made these allegations.
 

But offcourse all fair , concerned colonialists Jack Straw and BBC  do not agree with Indian Courts.


3. Same Courts found that 10 of Muslims of which one being a Congress leader, another Bangladeshi terrorist had a meeting night before train reached Godhra station convicted around 43 of them for burning Hindu pilgrims.

Obviously, bbc, Tony Blair, jack Straw disagrees and doesn’t know how train coach caught fire at station.

 

Conclusion, BBC has blown the bugle for  2024 Indian elections . If BJP gvmnt has kahunas, they should call it out as UK Government direct interference in changing outcome of Indian General election as BBC is funded by public money. Least they could do is sue BBC

 

Rishi Sunak said that they don't believe in the content of the BBC documentary (not in these exact words) when some Mirpuri MP brought this up in the British parliament. That should end the matter as far as the authenticity of this documentary

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Indian govt enjoys pretty bad PR in the West is no secret.  China too is badly viewed but their influence is unmatchable....  And they hung these outlets by balls.

Both Congress & BJP have been badly treated by western media. 

 

Hence never believe that India ka kad badh gya izzat badh gyi...  It's all hogwash. 

Unless & until u buy influence India will remain in bad company according to these Western outlets...  Other option is don't care about this & keep growing steadily. 

 

Pakistan probably spends more than India on PR...  They strive hard to maintain positive image even though they are in gutters.  ISPR tries very hard.  They successfully altered the narrative after Balakot surgical strike. 

Overall nothing new to see here.  Indians are far behind at 5th gen warfare. 

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10 hours ago, bharathh said:

Rishi Sunak said that they don't believe in the content of the BBC documentary (not in these exact words) when some Mirpuri MP brought this up in the British parliament. That should end the matter as far as the authenticity of this documentary

Right... what reflects badly on British government is that bbc is not even a private company, it's a public company and the PM himself doesn't believe in its reporting.

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2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Indian govt enjoys pretty bad PR in the West is no secret.  China too is badly viewed but their influence is unmatchable....  And they hung these outlets by balls.

Both Congress & BJP have been badly treated by western media. 

 

Hence never believe that India ka kad badh gya izzat badh gyi...  It's all hogwash. 

Unless & until u buy influence India will remain in bad company according to these Western outlets...  Other option is don't care about this & keep growing steadily. 

 

Pakistan probably spends more than India on PR...  They strive hard to maintain positive image even though they are in gutters.  ISPR tries very hard.  They successfully altered the narrative after Balakot surgical strike. 

Overall nothing new to see here.  Indians are far behind at 5th gen warfare. 

Why do we validation from some western outlet ? These outlets are propaganda machines. Regarding china they write about xinjiang and Muslim population subjugation by CCP, Covid crisis etc. China doesn’t has these outlets by balls. 

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1 hour ago, gattaca said:

Why do we validation from some western outlet ? These outlets are propaganda machines. Regarding china they write about xinjiang and Muslim population subjugation by CCP, Covid crisis etc. China doesn’t has these outlets by balls. 

https://freedomhouse.org/report/beijing-global-media-influence/2022/authoritarian-expansion-power-democratic-resilience

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and its proxies are using more sophisticated and coercive tactics to shape media narratives and suppress critical reporting.

 

What do you think wolf warrior diplomacy was all about?  Overall they are light years ahead of India there. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, randomGuy said:

Right... what reflects badly on British government is that bbc is not even a private company, it's a public company and the PM himself doesn't believe in its reporting.

If BBC says its documentary is based on some secret investigation done by Blair/Straw , if Sunak never commented on documentary in Parliament but only disagreed with Characterisation of Modi by Pakistani parliamentarian. So what more evidence one wants to accept that it is Uk gvmnt approved job.

 

Its purpose is to influence outcome of next General election. Documentary has served its purpose it was intentionally discussed and raised in British parliament to maximise its  impactits effect/objectives.

 

 

Don’t for a moment assume anyone including British PM Sunak is not currently complicit . Infact, not just all these narrative, but i think that main accused Bangladeshi origin terrorist part of Muslim mob may be have been nudged by Brit deep state. Same for Delhi riots 

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7 hours ago, mishra said:

If BBC says its documentary is based on some secret investigation done by Blair/Straw , if Sunak never commented on documentary in Parliament but only disagreed with Characterisation of Modi by Pakistani parliamentarian. So what more evidence one wants to accept that it is Uk gvmnt approved job.

 

Its purpose is to influence outcome of next General election. Documentary has served its purpose it was intentionally discussed and raised in British parliament to maximise its  impactits effect/objectives.

 

 

Don’t for a moment assume anyone including British PM Sunak is not currently complicit . Infact, not just all these narrative, but i think that main accused Bangladeshi origin terrorist part of Muslim mob may be have been nudged by Brit deep state. Same for Delhi riots 

If this will have any impact on election it will be modi winning even with more votes. As takers of this documentary are tukde tukde gang only and we know how much public love them.

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8 hours ago, raki05 said:

If this will have any impact on election it will be modi winning even with more votes. As takers of this documentary are tukde tukde gang only and we know how much public love them.

I can see there are atleast 4-5 significant areas where the documentary was intended to make impact. Not many icfers will accept with them all in first glance but Geopolitics is a bitch. What UK wants.

1. India must not have a PM who has full majority in both houses as it has risks like removal of article 370, 35 A, creation of UTs like Laddakh and J&K. It should have felt pressurised enough by West on its trade ties with Russia. At the same time it should have accepted say offer from Capitalist like Mr Musk to sell Chinese made Tesla in India. So both Capitalists and Necolonialist should be in a position to influence/nudge Indias policies. Their interest comes together. Please note , This wish is same for every developing nation by West.

2. India recently held meeting of Global South invoving 120 Nations, This is coming as a new block which will come to put their needs to West. This initiative by India to be voice of Global South (which has a lot of Islamic nations) should be weakened. One may argue that nations and policies of countries are based on self interest, but perception and good will India can generate by such inititiative must be weakened among general masses of the Global South.  So it must be done by portraying Hindus similar to Islam or Christianity where they faught religious wars and killed/raped/pillaged billions including Millions of Hindus over several centuries.

3. India recently created a framework for CTC and have taken leading role. In the meeting Qatars role as funding various Terror orgs via various proxy was highlighted. Offcourse it wasnt liked  by Qatar,Turkey or UK. Qatar arrested few Indians blaming them as being spies. But basically, such Indian initiatives should not be taken was probably message of UK and Westy as somewhere down the line, they may find MI6 complicit.

4. Indian elections: The piece is to ensure that Modi shouldnt bee seen as pro India, but anti Muslim. However since documentary was not shown in India, So Indian media was told by master English media to discuss it as much as they can instead of blacking out this peice of BBC panorama completely. However possibilty is tonights second episode of Panorama would have been re-edited. Not becauise of India, but because US seems to have shown little apetite in this particular initiative of British Govmnts. Biden Administration has realised that Brits were Bullshitting alol aloneg about Modi and Modi is pro India , pro US ,  irrespective of Conservatives and Democrat leadership.

5. India UK FTA negotiations are on and they arent happy about India being tough negotiator.

 

Hope this helps.

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22 hours ago, mishra said:

I can see there are atleast 4-5 significant areas where the documentary was intended to make impact. Not many icfers will accept with them all in first glance but Geopolitics is a bitch. What UK wants.

1. India must not have a PM who has full majority in both houses as it has risks like removal of article 370, 35 A, creation of UTs like Laddakh and J&K. It should have felt pressurised enough by West on its trade ties with Russia. At the same time it should have accepted say offer from Capitalist like Mr Musk to sell Chinese made Tesla in India. So both Capitalists and Necolonialist should be in a position to influence/nudge Indias policies. Their interest comes together. Please note , This wish is same for every developing nation by West.

2. India recently held meeting of Global South invoving 120 Nations, This is coming as a new block which will come to put their needs to West. This initiative by India to be voice of Global South (which has a lot of Islamic nations) should be weakened. One may argue that nations and policies of countries are based on self interest, but perception and good will India can generate by such inititiative must be weakened among general masses of the Global South.  So it must be done by portraying Hindus similar to Islam or Christianity where they faught religious wars and killed/raped/pillaged billions including Millions of Hindus over several centuries.

3. India recently created a framework for CTC and have taken leading role. In the meeting Qatars role as funding various Terror orgs via various proxy was highlighted. Offcourse it wasnt liked  by Qatar,Turkey or UK. Qatar arrested few Indians blaming them as being spies. But basically, such Indian initiatives should not be taken was probably message of UK and Westy as somewhere down the line, they may find MI6 complicit.

4. Indian elections: The piece is to ensure that Modi shouldnt bee seen as pro India, but anti Muslim. However since documentary was not shown in India, So Indian media was told by master English media to discuss it as much as they can instead of blacking out this peice of BBC panorama completely. However possibilty is tonights second episode of Panorama would have been re-edited. Not becauise of India, but because US seems to have shown little apetite in this particular initiative of British Govmnts. Biden Administration has realised that Brits were Bullshitting alol aloneg about Modi and Modi is pro India , pro US ,  irrespective of Conservatives and Democrat leadership.

5. India UK FTA negotiations are on and they arent happy about India being tough negotiator.

 

Hope this helps.

Not everything you say is wrong, neither it is correct.

 

BBC has one goal and that is to show PM Modi in bad light. In democracies it does not work that way. Irrespective of what everyone says Modi is a good human being.

 

India's focus should be India. Modi as promised should deliver to make India a $5 T economy. When that happens opinion of England will not matter, Trust me.

 

Modi also needs to maintain strong relations with countries like UAE which are very practical countries. Screw this BBC film. If they did not ask for Indian opinion before filming it they can go to he$l.

 

 

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This is not British govt's stance anyway but a private production of BBC. Rishi Sunak made it clear on the floor of parliament what British Govt's official stance is on this incident. BBC has no jurisdiction to say Indian supreme court was wrong and that they know more than Indian agencies which has acquitted Modi long time ago. If anything, it is insulting Indian legal system. This is how propaganda works and had this documentary been allowed in India, it would have caused another communal riot.  

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