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Contrary to slow pitch theory- If some1 take a look at top wkt takers till last week were mostly the fast bowler.

And not the trundler kind, bowler with good pace have been getting wkts- Siraj (who is bowling his fastest consistently  not just 1/2 ball per match), Tushar probably bowling his fastest, Shami, Pathirana all are fairly quick.

 

Only starting from last/this week there has been a rise of spinners(mostly leg spinner who are normally huge wkt taker in T20s anyways) and pace change bowlers. 

Most of the 130s bowlers are going for runs or unable to pick wkts 

 

KKR bowling looks a step-up with Harshit Rana.

 

Last phase of IPL will support spinners due to aging and natural wear and tear of the pitches which is expected after 7/8 matches. 

 

 

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61/70 games completed. 

Updated list of fast bowlers that has been given at least one game in IPL 2023 (except for the ruled out bowlers like Bumrah & Prasidh)
No. of games is designated in bracket.

1. Moved Akash Madhwal to Talented Trundlers after two impressive performances in Wankhede.
2. Moved Vaibhav Arora to Talented Trundlers after impressing for KKR.
3. Moved Tushar Deshpande to High Potential but untested after getting all 13 games so far for CSK and gradually improving. 
 

Top Tier Fast bowlers
M Siraj (12)
M Shami (12)
J Bumrah (0)
H Pandya (11)

 


High Potential Fast bowlers
Prasidh  (0)
Mohsin Khan (2)
Kuldeep Sen (2)
Umran Malik (7)

 


High potential but untested

Kartik Tyagi (1)
Yudhvir Singh(3)
Harshit Rana (5)
Tushar Deshpande (13)

 


Talented Trundlers
Arshdeep Singh (12)
Shardul Thakur (10)
Deepak Chahar (7)
T Natrajan (10)
Akash Madhwal (4)
Vaibhav Arora (4)

 


Oldies but still relevant somewhat
Umesh Yadav (8)
Bhuvi Kumar (11)
Sandeep Sharma (11)
Mohit Sharma (9)
Ishant Sharma(7)

 

 

Washed out but still persisted somehow

J Unadkat (3)
Avesh Khan (9)
Harshal Patel (11)

Khaleel Ahmed (7)

Navdeep Saini (1)

 

 

Rookies ( but not impressive)


R Hangrakerkar (2)
Akash Singh (6)

Mukesh Kumar (9)
Chetan Sakariya (1)

Yash Dayal (3)

K Khejroliya (2)

Yash Thakur (6)

Arshad Khan (6)
Arjun Tendulkar (4)

Gurnoor Brar (1)

KM Asif (4)
Kuldip Yadav (2)

Akashdeep (2)
V Vyshak (6)

 

 

deepdynamo Grand Master

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25 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

Most of the 130s bowlers are going for runs or unable to pick wkts 

 


Yes, True. But they are still getting regular game time for their teams.
And that is a bummer.
Bhuvi, Natrajan, Avesh, Harshal, Khaleel, Sandeep, Mohit, Mukesh, Yash Thakur, KM Asif

The tired pitches have enabled these bowlers to deliver few 'safe spells' without impacting the game.

When was the last time  Bhuvi won the game with new ball or bowl two prefect death overs. Never.
He is just doing his usual 1/34 (4) in most of his matches despite having 10 years of experience.

Natrajan is yet another 'safe' bowler who can never create an impact in a game. He can bowl in death but teams has figured him out.
Again he is the sort of 1/38(4) sort of guy who will keep doing his stuff without making anybody excited.

Sandeep is again a safe kind of bowler. Gives a safe non threatening spell of 30 in 4 overs but have no skills to take wickets unless batsman starts attacking him.

Harshal and Avesh are premium level frauds. They are so incompetent that despite of tired pitches in later half, they are still going  10 runs per over.

 

deepdynamo Grand Master

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Shami bowled beautifully and what is expected from leading India fast bowler.
3/16(3), Broke the game.

In contrast Bhuvi  (10 year experienced bowler) got a cheap 5-fer at backend of inning when batsman were slogging for everything.
5/30(4), Picked wickets when damage was already done.

 

This is exactly the modus of operands for Bhuvi.
Just keep doing minimum, pick up cheap wickets here and there and keep himself away from scrutiny.
If you ask me , he is no better than any other rookie even though he should be a leader of SRH attack.

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17 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

Shami bowled beautifully and what is expected from leading India fast bowler.
3/16(3), Broke the game.

In contrast Bhuvi  (10 year experienced bowler) got a cheap 5-fer at backend of inning when batsman were slogging for everything.
5/30(4), Picked wickets when damage was already done.

 

This is exactly the modus of operands for Bhuvi.
Just keep doing minimum, pick up cheap wickets here and there and keep himself away from scrutiny.
If you ask me , he is no better than any other rookie even though he should be a leader of SRH attack.

People are already crying to have Boobie Jadeja Ashwin in 2024 T20 WC...  Cricketing IQ in this country is in deep trenches for a reason. 

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33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Piyush chawla is outbowling every current spinners with more impact wickets.

Spinners get better with age but Ashwin has regressed...  And Jadeja is still okay with the ball but his LOI batting is just pathetic. 

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Spinners get better with age but Ashwin has regressed...  And Jadeja is still okay with the ball but his LOI batting is just pathetic. 

Ashwin is out of the picture for selection. In Tests he is fine. But jaddu feasted mostly on chennai wickets.

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On 5/15/2023 at 12:45 PM, deepdynamo said:

Shami bowled beautifully and what is expected from leading India fast bowler.
3/16(3), Broke the game.

In contrast Bhuvi  (10 year experienced bowler) got a cheap 5-fer at backend of inning when batsman were slogging for everything.
5/30(4), Picked wickets when damage was already done.

 

This is exactly the modus of operands for Bhuvi.
Just keep doing minimum, pick up cheap wickets here and there and keep himself away from scrutiny.
If you ask me , he is no better than any other rookie even though he should be a leader of SRH attack.

 

Twitter is full of praise for Bhuvi bhaiya while slandering Shami :facepalm:

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Khaleel has everything going for him- Good height, Rhythmic run-up and action. Not sure why can not he work on his speeds and apply brains to take wkts.

He is among those Ind players who one sees and ask why was he selected.

 

Avesh was backed by Ind TM and rated v.highly and nt a single season down he looks mid-level player. Gambhir during Aisa cup commentary mentioned that looks like Ind Team has asked to cut down on pace as he was hardly touching 140s, same question should be asked to LSG TM if they are asking Avesh to cut on pace or if Avesh is not as fast as he was deemed or marketed to be.

 

Mukesh Kumar's selection into Ind team is total surprise, a set-up who talks about a 150 kmph bowler being raw and not ready as if they have many like him. Ind for the first time has a genuine express bowler but they think he is not ready.

 

On the other hand Mukesh Kumar's selection into test then ODIs and T20s is never contested, not sure if he is intl. quality nothing special abt him. 

 

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55 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Mukesh Kumar has 7 wickets from 9 matches .. Eco of 10.15.   Average of 39+.

 

But plays every game.

 

Why ?

 

 

What other options DC have - Sakaria and Nagarkoti.

 

They have invested big bucks on him, they have to give him games just incase he makes into Ind playing 11 then its all good investment for them.

 

Same reason Umesh got so many games, same reason Bhuvi is getting games they have better chance of making to Ind WC teams and IPL teams wants their player to represent intnl. sides. 

 

And now that Bhuvi has a good showing he have a good chance of  making Ind comeback, if he has 1-2 more games where he is able to pick wkts upfront then he will be termed as all phase bowler by Ind TM and he will get back into the team.

 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Khaleel has everything going for him- Good height, Rhythmic run-up and action. Not sure why can not he work on his speeds and apply brains to take wkts.

He is among those Ind players who one sees and ask why was he selected.

 

Avesh was backed by Ind TM and rated v.highly and nt a single season down he looks mid-level player. Gambhir during Aisa cup commentary mentioned that looks like Ind Team has asked to cut down on pace as he was hardly touching 140s, same question should be asked to LSG TM if they are asking Avesh to cut on pace or if Avesh is not as fast as he was deemed or marketed to be.

 

Mukesh Kumar's selection into Ind team is total surprise, a set-up who talks about a 150 kmph bowler being raw and not ready as if they have many like him. Ind for the first time has a genuine express bowler but they think he is not ready.

 

On the other hand Mukesh Kumar's selection into test then ODIs and T20s is never contested, not sure if he is intl. quality nothing special abt him. 

 


My personal theory is that Khaleel has been corrupted by IPL money and he has lost motivation to work hard, break his back and earn his India cap again.
He has taken an easy way out- ditch domestic cricket, focus on IPL ( t20) and earn loads of easy money. Also, he would have probably realized that he is an average bowler with no bowling intelligence. So, he must be focusing to milk IPL as along as he can.
 

Khaleel 2022 - 5.25 crore

Khaleel 2023 - 5.25 crore
Performance zilch.

Avesh Khan- Never rated him. Its not about pace also. Whether 135 or 140, you are never be safe with radarless bowler like Avesh. I am glad he has been found out even at IPL level. But for some reason bowlers like these are considered as main players for their franchise. Maybe because of lack of options in fast bowling.

Mukesh Kumar is the current golden trundler of Indian cricket. But he didn't have the fluke IPL success season  ( like Harshal or Avesh in previous IPLs) so he would probably not be considered as one for the future. But then there is no dearth of trundlers so someone else will spring up.
 

 

 

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