‘Our neighbour has to understand’: Shehbaz Sharif renews his message to India

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Tuesday expressed his willingness to hold talks with India, saying the two countries cannot be “normal neighbours” unless serious issues are addressed through peaceful and meaningful discussions.

 

 

Sharif’s offer of talks during his speech at the inaugural session of the Pakistan Minerals Summit in Islamabad, came a little more than six months after he made a similar proposal during an interview with AlArabiya news channel. India and Pakistan have not had any substantial talks since the 2008 Mumbai attacks New Delhi has linked any contacts to Islamabad cracking down on terror. 

Though Sharif didn’t name any country in his remarks, it was obvious he was referring to India. He said war wasn’t an option for both countries and that there would be no survivors in the event of a “nuclear flashpoint”.

“We have nothing against anybody. We have to look after our own self, build our nation, even with our neighbour. We are prepared to talk to them, provided that the neighbour is serious to talk serious matters on the table because war is no more an option,” Sharif said.

He said it is important for both countries to address their “serious issues” through talks but did not specifically mention any of these issues.

“But it is equally important that our neighbour has to understand that we cannot become normal neighbours unless abnormalities are removed, unless our serious issues are understood and addressed through peaceful and meaningful discussions,” Sharif said. 

There was no immediate response from Indian officials to Sharif’s remarks.

The business meeting in Islamabad was attended by Pakistan Army chief Gen Asim Munir and several foreign dignitaries. 

Sharif further said: “Pakistan...is a nuclear power, not as an aggressor but for our defence purposes. And we had three wars, fought in the last 75 years. And what happened? I’m being very honest with you. It generated more poverty, unemployment and lack of resources to finance education, health and well-being of the people.”

He added: “So is this the way we have to adopt or to have a war of economic competition? Because, God forbid, God forbid, if there is any nuclear flashpoint, who will live to tell what happened? So that is not an option.” 

In January, Sharif had offered to hold talks with India and said he had asked the leadership of the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to help bring the two countries to the table. Soon after, Islamabad made any discussions conditional to New Delhi restoring the special status of Jammu and Kashmir. At the time, Sharif was visiting the UAE. 

Hours after Sharif made the offer during the interview with AlArabiya, the Prime Minister’s Office in Islamabad said talks “can only take place after India had reversed its illegal action of August 5, 2019” – a reference to the scrapping of Jammu and Kashmir’s special status.

The developments in Jammu and Kashmir and a string of terror attacks blamed on Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM), including the 2019 Pulwama bombing that killed 40 Indian troopers and brought the two sides close to war, have taken bilateral ties to an all-time low. 

Prime Minister Narendra Modi made several peace overtures when Sharif’s elder brother, Nawaz Sharif, was the premier during 2013-17. Modi invited Nawaz Sharif to his swearing-in ceremony in 2014 and made a surprise visit to Lahore in December 2015 to meet his then Pakistani counterpart. However, ties between the two sides were subsequently derailed. 

Sharif’s government is set to be dissolved later this month to pave the way for holding a general election in Pakistan. It is unlikely that his government or the caretaker administration to be formed to oversee the election will be in a position to conduct any substantial talks with India.

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[Bublu Bhuyan]

'Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir, Kashmir .....................'

[coffee_rules]

Listen at 2:30.

Telephone kissi ko karte hain to, woh samajhte hain ye maangenge hamse!!

 

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Every time someone from Pakistan speaks on Kashmir, I have such a sick and sadistic smile on my face.

[LordPrabhzy]

Bikharis think they have the aukaat to make statements about India... just funny

[Khota]

 

Sharif further said: “Pakistan...is a nuclear power, not as an aggressor but for our defence purposes. And we had three wars, fought in the last 75 years. And what happened? I’m being very honest with you. It generated more poverty, unemployment and lack of resources to finance education, health and well-being of the people.”

Pakistan started 3 wars with India and lost all three times. I think India should talk to them and discuss the transfer of POK to India.

 

[gattaca]

34 minutes ago, Khota said:

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Sharif further said: “Pakistan...is a nuclear power, not as an aggressor but for our defence purposes. And we had three wars, fought in the last 75 years. And what happened? I’m being very honest with you. It generated more poverty, unemployment and lack of resources to finance education, health and well-being of the people.”

Pakistan started 3 wars with India and lost all three times. I think India should talk to them and discuss the transfer of POK to India.

 

Lol no. We already have enough Muslim majority states and enough problems don’t want to have more. What I read is Mirpuris are even worse.

Edited August 3, 2023 by gattaca

[Khota]

13 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Lol no. We already have enough Muslim majority states and enough problems don’t want to have more. What I read is Mirpuris are even worse.

Kashmir is part of India and that is nonnegotiable.

[mishra]

For me, the way I see it: All India is seeking is Access and Security to Wakhan Corridor.

 

Secondly: Our policymakers have to be very careful how to deal with Pakistani Premiers request. Apart from Terrorist Training camps, Pakistan has other problems like feudal lords, guns and drugs production/consumption/trafficking. If we open our borders for economic purpose we will end up importing all those Pakistani Problems. Allready we are struggling to deal with  Udataa Punjab and Udataa Kashmir, We dont want  Udataa Harayana, Udataa Rajasthan, Udataa Gujrat, Udataa Jammu and Udataa Delhi

 

For me, Trucks via Roads is No No as drugs will come

 

Edited August 3, 2023 by mishra

[mishra]

1 hour ago, gattaca said:

Lol no. We already have enough Muslim majority states and enough problems don’t want to have more. What I read is Mirpuris are even worse.

Most Mirpuris live in UK. They just own Kothis back home

[Lone Wolf]

22 hours ago, Khota said:

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Sharif further said: “Pakistan...is a nuclear power, not as an aggressor but for our defence purposes. And we had three wars, fought in the last 75 years. And what happened? I’m being very honest with you. It generated more poverty, unemployment and lack of resources to finance education, health and well-being of the people.”

Pakistan started 3 wars with India and lost all three times. I think India should talk to them and discuss the transfer of POK to India.

 

Wars have not helped Pakistan but they have been nothing short of magical for India... 

India always had the better of them in Wars...  It was during so called 'Peaceful times' we let ourselves get damaged. 

 

India should have forcefully retaliated after Paxtani jets infiltrated India in Feb 2019...  Blown a bunch of their Army posts & shown them their aukaat. 

They would have done nothing but moan or ceasefire violations. 

[Lone Wolf]

21 hours ago, gattaca said:

Lol no. We already have enough Muslim majority states and enough problems don’t want to have more. What I read is Mirpuris are even worse.

PoK can only come if Pakistan is destroyed completely or balkanized...  The idea of Pakistan is what makes Jihad & other nonsense & extreme radicalization among Muslims possible. 

The gift of Aurangzeb to entire subcontinent...  It is the most radicalized portion on the planet. 

Central Asian Muslims (The OG Mughals)  look like woke liberals in front of our bunch. 

 

[Khota]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

PoK can only come if Pakistan is destroyed completely or balkanized...  The idea of Pakistan is what makes Jihad & other nonsense & extreme radicalization among Muslims possible. 

The gift of Aurangzeb to entire subcontinent...  It is the most radicalized portion on the planet. 

Central Asian Muslims (The OG Mughals)  look like woke liberals in front of our bunch. 

 

I have also observed it. Other Muslims are not as radicalized as Pakistan. Some of them are the worst.

[Vijy]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

PoK can only come if Pakistan is destroyed completely or balkanized...  The idea of Pakistan is what makes Jihad & other nonsense & extreme radicalization among Muslims possible. 

The gift of Aurangzeb to entire subcontinent...  It is the most radicalized portion on the planet. 

Central Asian Muslims (The OG Mughals)  look like woke liberals in front of our bunch. 

 

Indeed, this bunch has some of the most regressive laws around

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Vijy said:

Indeed, this bunch has some of the most regressive laws around

Afghans prior to Taliban era &,  Soviet invasion were much more progressive as well...  Average Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi Muslims are worst of the worst when it comes to radicalization since the beginning.   

Poverty,  illiteracy is a factor but there is some deep rot worth centuries old present as well. 

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Afghans prior to Taliban era &,  Soviet invasion were much more progressive as well...  Average Indian Pakistani Bangladeshi Muslims are worst of the worst when it comes to radicalization since the beginning.   

Poverty,  illiteracy is a factor but there is some deep rot worth centuries old present as well. 

yes, the roots are clearly historical; they extend back in time

[bsriharsha]

On 8/3/2023 at 5:29 AM, Bublu Bhuyan said:

“But it is equally important that our neighbour has to understand that we cannot become normal neighbours unless abnormalities are removed, unless our serious issues are understood and addressed through peaceful and meaningful discussions,” Sharif said. 

1. Pakistan itself is an abnormality. 
2. Fix your country first , Stop exporting drugs and terrorism
3. Don't keep whining about India. India's not bothered about Pakistan. 
4. Don't keep begging for cricket matches. It's tiresome. Don't beg for anything as well (Including IMF Bailouts / Loans / Handouts). Have some pride.
5. First practice live and let live policy, What sort of "We don't want anything to do with Pakistan don't the Pak leaders understand?"

[bsriharsha]

On 8/3/2023 at 5:29 AM, Bublu Bhuyan said:

Pakistan...is a nuclear power, not as an aggressor but for our defence purposes. And we had three wars, fought in the last 75 years. And what happened? I’m being very honest with you. It generated more poverty, unemployment and lack of resources to finance education, health and well-being of the people.”

Yes. Nuke bombs are essential for survival of Pakistan. How else can the army survive as a mafia state otherwise ? Pakistan needs nuclear weapons to threaten/blackmail/randirona/beg to all the other countries / world bank / imf ?

[jf1gp_1]

On 8/6/2023 at 6:17 AM, bsriharsha said:

Yes. Nuke bombs are essential for survival of Pakistan. How else can the army survive as a mafia state otherwise ? Pakistan needs nuclear weapons to threaten/blackmail/randirona/beg to all the other countries / world bank / imf ?

US before withdrawing from Afghanistan would have a plan on how to neutralize pak nuke, if required. 

[Lone Wolf]

35 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

US before withdrawing from Afghanistan would have a plan on how to neutralize pak nuke, if required. 

As a Puppet state US needs Pak..  Why would they neutralize their nukes when Pak army is in their pocket & Pakistan is only existing as a Zombie state?