Gukesh wins World Chess Candidates 2024. Becomes youngest ever contender for World Chess Championship crown.

[Vijy]

Just now, Gollum said:

 

Nepo is such a crybaby, contrast that to how graceful Caruana is with his words. 

he should change his name to nepocrybabi.

[vvvslaxman]

 

Blitz rating.    Arjun Erigaisi,  Vishy, Nihal sarin in this list.

[Vickydev]

Yeah Gukesh is pretty poor right now in the faster time controls. Finished bottom in the Superbet event and even in classical games ends up eating up a lot of time, Pragg and Arjun especially are the best bets for us in these formats. Carlsen is a step above everyone, Wei Yi has come from nowhere and is looking a million bucks. 

[Vijy]

18 hours ago, Vickydev said:

Yeah Gukesh is pretty poor right now in the faster time controls. Finished bottom in the Superbet event and even in classical games ends up eating up a lot of time, Pragg and Arjun especially are the best bets for us in these formats. Carlsen is a step above everyone, Wei Yi has come from nowhere and is looking a million bucks. 

I like the classical ones way more. as long as GuKesh does well enough there, I will be content

[Vickydev]

7 hours ago, Vijy said:

I like the classical ones way more. as long as GuKesh does well enough there, I will be content

Even in Classical, it's the tie breaks where he could suffer. He lost in the finals of Tata Chess to Wei Yi and one more tournament iirc this past year or so because of his relatively underwhelming play in faster time controls.

 

He is so young so of course he will grow still but his rivals like Nodirbek are very young too. It will be interesting to see how he navigates this because being a well rounded player is a must in this age. 

[Gollum]

Like @Vijy I attach more importance to classical, it's the test cricket of chess, ultimate format, a format where greatness is judged.

 

Gukesh has avoided faster time controls all his life, will take some time to adjust. Caruana was also like that for many years but improved.....Gukesh is just 17, lots of time. Also calculation intensive players like Gukesh and Caruana will always find faster time controls tough, while intuitive players like Pragg, Carlsen, Naka, Anand will be at home. 

 

Wrt this Warsaw tournament don't underestimate the effect of fatigue, shot nerves and emotional toll on Gukesh after his Candidates win. Players usually take long breaks after such milestones. He'll be just fine.

[Vijy]

On 5/15/2024 at 3:43 PM, Gollum said:

Like @Vijy I attach more importance to classical, it's the test cricket of chess, ultimate format, a format where greatness is judged.

 

Gukesh has avoided faster time controls all his life, will take some time to adjust. Caruana was also like that for many years but improved.....Gukesh is just 17, lots of time. Also calculation intensive players like Gukesh and Caruana will always find faster time controls tough, while intuitive players like Pragg, Carlsen, Naka, Anand will be at home. 

 

Wrt this Warsaw tournament don't underestimate the effect of fatigue, shot nerves and emotional toll on Gukesh after his Candidates win. Players usually take long breaks after such milestones. He'll be just fine.

yep, nothing beats the classic version

[Gollum]

Big day, Pragg beat Carlsen in classical!!!!!

 

 

[Gollum]

WACA guys gave a simul in Bengaluru recently. From there....

 

[Gollum]

One of the comments, so true. 

 

Pragg is kryptonite of magnus, vidit is kryptonite of hikaru, gukesh is kryptonite of caruana, arjun is kryptonite of aronian

 

 

 

 

[Lord]

7 hours ago, Gollum said:

One of the comments, so true. 

 

Pragg is kryptonite of magnus, vidit is kryptonite of hikaru, gukesh is kryptonite of caruana, arjun is kryptonite of aronian

 

 

 

 

 

The video above said it's first win for Pragg v Magnus

[randomGuy]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

The video above said it's first win for Pragg v Magnus

There are many formats like classical, rapid, blitz, bullet and Fischer random.... classical is the most sacred. His 1st win against carlsen in classical...for ref. once carlsen had unbeaten streak of 120-130 classical games .... that's how difficult it is to beat him in classical.

 

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

The video above said it's first win for Pragg v Magnus

Pragg has beaten him multiple times in rapid/blitz, both OTB and online. For a teenager this is very impressive. 

 

First win in classical which is regarded as the ultimate format, like test cricket for cricket purists. 

Edited May 31, 2024 by Gollum

[Gollum]

For reference Anand's first classical wins over Kasparov and Karpov came when he was 21. 

 

These kids are developing so fast. Just teenagers, younger than what Kohli was when he led India to U-19 triumph. They are also in school right now, having exams like other regular students, recently Pragg was playing an online event against Giri till 2 am (he beat him IIRC and final was against Ding Liren) and had an exam the next morning. Now imagine going to high school as someone who has beaten GOAT Carlsen in classical in his home country Norway, the flex 

[Kron]

8 hours ago, Gollum said:

For reference Anand's first classical wins over Kasparov and Karpov came when he was 21. 

 

These kids are developing so fast. Just teenagers, younger than what Kohli was when he led India to U-19 triumph. They are also in school right now, having exams like other regular students, recently Pragg was playing an online event against Giri till 2 am (he beat him IIRC and final was against Ding Liren) and had an exam the next morning. Now imagine going to high school as someone who has beaten GOAT Carlsen in classical in his home country Norway, the flex 

Gukesh seems next level though. Just something about him. Calm and composed. Like a finisher. I think he will go down as one of the greatest ever. 

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

Gukesh seems next level though. Just something about him. Calm and composed. Like a finisher. I think he will go down as one of the greatest ever. 

if he keeps the steady path, he can.... if he goes the Bobby way, then its curtains

[Gollum]

2 hours ago, Kron said:

Gukesh seems next level though. Just something about him. Calm and composed. Like a finisher. I think he will go down as one of the greatest ever. 

Ability wise I rate Arjun and Pragg higher, Gukesh has nerves of steel though.

[ravishingravi]

20 hours ago, Gollum said:

WACA guys gave a simul in Bengaluru recently. From there....

 

 

Culture matters. 

[Kron]

6 hours ago, Gollum said:

Ability wise I rate Arjun and Pragg higher, Gukesh has nerves of steel though.

Pragg just gives me choker vibes. I could be dead wrong but I still feel gukesh is on another planet. He is ruthless. If he continues to develop he will go down as the best. 

[Gollum]

59 minutes ago, Kron said:

Pragg just gives me choker vibes. I could be dead wrong but I still feel gukesh is on another planet. He is ruthless. If he continues to develop he will go down as the best. 

Pragg was clutch af in the World Cup. Made it to the final where he lost to Carlsen, but he was damn tired by that point because of his journey with so many tiebreaks.