Vs Bangla Try gill , Ayer , sharma part-time bowling

[Serpico]

2 hours ago, Vijy said:

I wish we had made Iyer and SKY bowl in some of the matches they played in the last 1 year. Ro-Ko are too old to resume bowling, so it should have been these 2 who were asked to bowl.

Iyer will definitely pull some muscle if tries to bowl

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, Serpico said:

Iyer will definitely pull some muscle if tries to bowl

yes, porcelain man

[Lord]

13 hours ago, Vijy said:

I wish we had made Iyer and SKY bowl in some of the matches they played in the last 1 year. Ro-Ko are too old to resume bowling, so it should have been these 2 who were asked to bowl.

 

Gill and Kishan too.

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Gill and Kishan too.

 

Modern players absolutely lack curiousity.  Shami does practice, Bishnoi practices. 

[dial_100]

This is how it will shape out.

1. Top teams : SA, Aus, Eng, NZ, Pak
2. 2nd tier : SL, BD, AFG, NDL

We are playing these teams in this sequence

1. Aus, Afg, Pak, BD, NZ
2. Eng, SL, SA, NDL

Qualifying scenarios, if we lose:

1. 2 game : 100%
2. 2 games + 2 tie : 50-70%
3. 3 games  : 50-70% 
4. 3+ games : bye-bye. WC wont be worth watching anyways.

No disrespect to 2nd tier teams but likelihood of us losing 3 games against top tier teams and any other team beating any 2 teams of those top 3 to sneak through ahead of us is slim. 

 

If we lose a game against the first set of teams then we will have tough time as games against ENG and SA will become quarterfinals. Games against SL and NDL will only be decisive if NRR comes into play, which mostly likely it would.

 

 

[mani sha]

3 hours ago, dial_100 said:

This is how it will shape out.

1. Top teams : SA, Aus, Eng, NZ, Pak
2. 2nd tier : SL, BD, AFG, NDL

We are playing these teams in this sequence

1. Aus, Afg, Pak, BD, NZ
2. Eng, SL, SA, NDL

Qualifying scenarios, if we lose:

1. 2 game : 100%
2. 2 games + 2 tie : 50-70%
3. 3 games  : 50-70% 
4. 3+ games : bye-bye. WC wont be worth watching anyways.

No disrespect to 2nd tier teams but likelihood of us losing 3 games against top tier teams and any other team beating any 2 teams of those top 3 to sneak through ahead of us is slim. 

 

If we lose a game against the first set of teams then we will have tough time as games against ENG and SA will become quarterfinals. Games against SL and NDL will only be decisive if NRR comes into play, which mostly likely it would.

 

 

Games against australia and England most important. 
 

bumrah , siraj , kuldeep , ashwin , jadeja 

rahul

rohit gill Kohli pandya kishan 

 

our starting 11 . 

 

our home advantage is gonna be important if pitches are suiting us . More than opposition think pitches .

[Vijy]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Gill and Kishan too.

I don't think these 2 even know how to hold a ball

[Lord]

13 hours ago, Vijy said:

I don't think these 2 even know how to hold a ball

 

[Lord]

Kishan too

 

 

[R!TTER]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

Looks like a part time chucker ala Chuckmal 

[vvvslaxman]

Look at the flick of the finger from Parag. He generates bounce too.  It is almost like googly action more than off spinner.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

So Parag can bowl off spin, leg spin and googly.

[IndianRenegade]

On 9/12/2023 at 7:25 PM, singhvivek141 said:

DK explained the "reasons" on cricbuzz

1. 2 new balls rule 

2. Only 4 fielders during 11-40 overs

3. As they don't bowl in matches, not worth it to spend time

4. Too much cricket, one niggle and you're gone from radar..so why risk it

 

I think he doesn't know about Markram, Maxwell. He kept mum on Asalanka and bypassed that topic.

Bhogle also jumped in, supporting the superstars. 

 3- is a self fulfilling prophecy. they don't practice as they don't expect to bowl, they can't bowl because they haven't put in the effort to practice.

 

4 - as such most of these superstars skip most games in the name of rotation. Isn't the same true for HP, Jadeja, Axar? why should they risk a niggle?

 

These sound more like after the fact justifications for their inability to go out of their comfort zone. 

[Vijy]

On 9/26/2023 at 1:15 PM, vvvslaxman said:

So Parag can bowl off spin, leg spin and googly.

yes, parag is a bit like livingstone, markram, tendu, etc

[mani sha]

Parag bowling well . Seems like a v v handy bowler to have .why is he not in the t20 team ? 

[waga]

you guys are getting really obsessed over part timers for some reason, nobody else uses them. Root doesn't bowl much, marnus and smith don't chuck down overs during the middle overs  

[Lord]

12 hours ago, waga said:

you guys are getting really obsessed over part timers for some reason, nobody else uses them. Root doesn't bowl much, marnus and smith don't chuck down overs during the middle overs  

Markram,Head,Marsh,Livi regularly bowl.

[Majestic]

Sundar is the choice post World Cup, not Parag in ODIs for a batting A/R.

[Nikhil_cric]

23 hours ago, Majestic said:

Sundar is the choice post World Cup, not Parag in ODIs for a batting A/R.

Deodhar Trophy

Batting stats 

 

Parag

 

88 average 136 strike rate

 

Sundar

 

20 odd average 65 odd strike rate

 

 

Bowling stats

 

Parag average 19

 

Sundar average 26

 

 

No evidence that Sundar deserves a go ahead of Parag (played for a weaker team as well)

 

 

[Majestic]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Deodhar Trophy

Batting stats 

 

Parag

 

88 average 136 strike rate

 

Sundar

 

20 odd average 65 odd strike rate

 

 

Bowling stats

 

Parag average 19

 

Sundar average 26

 

 

No evidence that Sundar deserves a go ahead of Parag (played for a weaker team as well)

 

 

Sundar is technically far more proficient and seems a much better option against high class international level bowling away from home.