Lone Wolf Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) On 10/29/2023 at 6:56 AM, jf1gp_1 said: It has to be a well worded threat. Our stance should be we will pull out 6 lakh people and only potential alternate will come from Pakistan so qataris release 8 Indians or be ready for pakistani invasion Have to launch surprise at least 3-4 nuclear capable missiles to completely cripple Pakistani defense capabilities... Or even more. Otherwise India without a self sustaining MIC cannot launch a amphibious invasion of a enemy like Pakistan. Suicidal plan but only in this case we eliminate Pak in next week if we have to Edited October 30, 2023 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Foreign ministry & MEA to blame totally... Colossal failure. Qatar bullied us in Nupur's fiasco & now this... China would hang Qatar by its Ba** if they even dare Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) del... wrong thread Edited October 31, 2023 by bharathh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) After initial emotional outbursts, Researched the issue and few facts I am going to put. 1. Looks like the death penalty is from lowest court. 2. India and Qatar has agreement that punishment by Qatar can be carried out in India if it involves India citizens 3. Both Saudis and Qataris are competing for influence in India. Qatari Investment Authority has close ties/business interest with our Ambani Ji's Reliance Group 4. Abu Dhabi Investment Authority (ADIA), Mubadala Investment and ADQ, both of which are chaired by Sheikh Tahnoon, who is a brother of UAE president Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed are about to anounce $50 billion dollar investment in/around Adani's business interest Key question is who told Qataris that these navy officials are related to Indian intelligence. If Qataris are basing this on Pakistan based ISI, who are biggest benefeciary in terms of getting future contract in Sevcurity domain, then MEA needs to debunk this with Qataris and must proove that this is all Pakistani ISI's hit job on Business interest of India in Security domain. I believe when MEA is saying it wants to follow Qataris legal process, it is saying to Qataris ythat please dont rely on ISI and publically exonerate these gentlemen from all charges Edited November 3, 2023 by mishra dial_100, randomGuy, coffee_rules and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Quote Qatar has accepted the appeal of India govt and for now put a STAY on the “Death Sentence” of 8 formal Indian navy men : adds that India's friendship is more important. Some diplomatic headway coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Quote Qatar drops death sentence for eight Indians – New Delhi The appellate court has commuted the capital punishment handed to ex-navy officers 18 months after they were detained, the government has said The appellate court in Qatar has commuted the death sentence earlier handed down to eight Indian nationals, New Delhi said in a statement on Thursday. The sentence, initially pronounced by a Qatari court on October 26, has been “reduced,” the Indian foreign ministry said in a statement, adding that a “detailed judgment” on the matter is still awaited. Next Step, We must proove that they are innocent, and ensure that media puts it as likely hit job by Pakistan ISI. News on Death sentence was covered by BBC and our media but not above story. So you can give 10/10 to our Vishudh Chutia Media Edited December 29, 2023 by mishra raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Pretty big news. Good job by the MEA and the govt. Hopefully, they can get them out of custody and get them back as well raki05 and ravishingravi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 All personnel released! Great job by the MEA! diga, Vickydev, randomGuy and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 78 billion dollar gas deal with Qatar has done the trick.. Another case of quid pro quo... Qatar finally sees the light https://x.com/ETEnergyWorld/status/1755122769065337313?s=20 https://indianexpress.com/article/business/commodities/india-qatar-lng-term-contract-extended-petronet-lng-qatar-gas-9146451/ Edited February 12 by Lone Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 hours ago, bharathh said: All personnel released! Great job by the MEA! They should now proove that it was Pakistani ISI hit job. This is as important as release of these poersonnels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandz Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 6 hours ago, bharathh said: All personnel released! Great job by the MEA! That is wonderful news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bharathh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: 78 billion dollar gas deal with Qatar has done the trick.. Another case of quid pro quo... Qatar finally sees the light https://x.com/ETEnergyWorld/status/1755122769065337313?s=20 https://indianexpress.com/article/business/commodities/india-qatar-lng-term-contract-extended-petronet-lng-qatar-gas-9146451/ I doubt any country would have signed such a large deal for 8 ppl. Maybe the Congress would for one of the fake Gandhis mishra and raki05 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Modi hain to Mumkin hain. Great timing for elections! You hey were to be released in October. Don’t know what was given, this is what big countries do to small ones. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Gas-rich Qatar is a dwarf with imperial ambitions, which explains its propensity to twist the lion's tail.It has freed the eight former Indian Navy officers that it was holding since 2022 after taking its pound of flesh — tens of billions of dollars worth of recently concluded…— Brahma Chellaney (@Chellaney) February 12, 2024 Edited February 12 by coffee_rules Lone Wolf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, bharathh said: I doubt any country would have signed such a large deal for 8 ppl. Maybe the Congress would for one of the fake Gandhis Use your brains for once... This is not about congis or your BJP. This is geopolitics. Everything is done based on quid pro quo... Gas deal in this case. Everyone knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 18 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: This is spot on... They arm twisted into us making a deal. Although deal isn't a bad one short term wise imo. This was the only play left for India. Come 2030 Qatar will fall in line. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: This is spot on... They arm twisted into us making a deal. Although deal isn't a bad one short term wise imo. This was the only play left for India. Come 2030 Qatar will fall in line. Foreign office has shared a communique which says Modiji will visit Qatar after his UAE trip and safe return of 8 Indian navy personnels. This is as explicit as it can get in diplomatic language that bilateral relations will improve but not at cost of Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) What kind of a country goes from death penalty to released! What a farce of a judicial system or exposed their frivolous charges. india should ask for more details on how the charges were levied to begin with. In a similar case in 2012 , India under UPA had held two Italian marines for killing Indian fishermen . They were allowed to go back in a year by the UPA government under Sonia. It became a major bi-lateral incident which dragged in Indian SC till 2021. India even delayed a India-EU summit until it was settled over compensation for the victims. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrica_Lexie_case#:~:text=India alleged that two Italian,detained the two Italian marines. 7 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Use your brains for once... This is not about congis or your BJP. This is geopolitics. Everything is done based on quid pro quo... Gas deal in this case. Everyone knows. Edited February 12 by coffee_rules Lone Wolf and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 27 minutes ago, mishra said: Foreign office has shared a communique which says Modiji will visit Qatar after his UAE trip and safe return of 8 Indian navy personnels. This is as explicit as it can get in diplomatic language that bilateral relations will improve but not at cost of Indians. Now Foreign office won't release all details obviously. Things happen behind the scenes... Those who closely watched all the drama & foreign policy experts like Chellaney have seen what actually transpired. India had a chance to expose Qatar's double standards but it won't now as deal is done & both sides have got something to show for it. Face saving on both ends. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Now Foreign office won't release all details obviously. Things happen behind the scenes... Those who closely watched all the drama & foreign policy experts like Chellaney have seen what actually transpired. India had a chance to expose Qatar's double standards but it won't now as deal is done & both sides have got something to show for it. Face saving on both ends. Let Isaelis and West do it. For time being, we need their Gas at good prices but as I said, we should assert in no uncertain terms as to what are our Red Lines and one of them being killing/murdering Indian citizens Edited February 12 by mishra coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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