SRT100 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 This is a great lesson here for the Indian batsmen to learn from Mathews here, be quick and be ready to bat at the strikers end when a dismissal happens. I get the feeling that this will happen again and a batsman will be timed out in the finals. Can you imagine in a big final if say a Kohli, SKY takes forever to take strike and is timed out? Mathews is unlucky, some batsmen have taken an eternity to be ready and Im sure there was one game where Kohli even alerted the umpires to this. However no timed out was given. Im sure a Kohli fan will remind us who it was against? tweaker and Nash 2 Link to comment
Serpico Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 This sort of dismissal will only happen once at international level. You're being really greedy to expect happen it again in two weeks, that too in the final Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Serpico said: This sort of dismissal will only happen once at international level. You're being really greedy to expect happen it again in two weeks, that too in the final Actually no. Firstly it was actioned by Bangladesh which they could have easily have redacted as it was not really in the "spirit" of the game, so if you think if India played Pakistan and they had the chance to do this to India that they wouldnt in a SEMI or Final? Dont for a moment think Australia wouldnt do this either against India, they have a win at all costs mentality. I wouldnt want India to do it, but I can see it being done onto them. Vijy and Texan 2 Link to comment
Serpico Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, SRT100 said: Actually no. Firstly it was actioned by Bangladesh which they could have easily have redacted as it was not really in the "spirit" of the game, so if you think if India played Pakistan and they had the chance to do this to India that they wouldnt in a SEMI or Final? Dont for a moment think Australia wouldnt do this either against India, they have a win at all costs mentality. I wouldnt want India to do it, but I can see it being done onto them. Its not about whether they want to do it. Just like how we get nightmares about missing exams, being late to interviews etc, cricketers think about this scenario a lot of times in their lives and make sure it doesn't happen. After this incident they'll double check equipment twice before going in. It won't happen again anytime soon Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Serpico said: Its not about whether they want to do it. Just like how we get nightmares about missing exams, being late to interviews etc, cricketers think about this scenario a lot of times in their lives and make sure it doesn't happen. After this incident they'll double check equipment twice before going in. It won't happen again anytime soon You could argue the same about Mankad, players walking away from their crease when the ball is not dead, etc etc, things happen and I can see this tactic being employed or tested against India. It will unsettle them, it will rattle them. Its naive to think it wont happen at all in finals. Link to comment
Serpico Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, SRT100 said: You could argue the same about Mankad, players walking away from their crease when the ball is not dead, etc etc, things happen and I can see this tactic being employed or tested against India. It will unsettle them, it will rattle them. Its naive to think it wont happen at all in finals. Mankad happens because batsmen deliberately try to take advantage. There's no advantage in being late to the crease. There's a reason next batsman sits for hours with pads on, in the dugout/dressing room. To avoid this exact scenario Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, Serpico said: Mankad happens because batsmen deliberately try to take advantage. There's no advantage in being late to the crease. There's a reason next batsman sits for hours with pads on, in the dugout/dressing room. To avoid this exact scenario Thank you. You just demonstrated to me your understanding of cricket. There is a huge advantage in being late to the crease, the bowling side has just taken a wicket and has all the momentum and energy from that. By taking your time you not only give yourself more time to prepare for the next ball but you reduce that momentum lift that the bowling side has. Batsmen dont sit for hours in the dugout, this is an ODI. tweaker 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 We should learn from Shakib as well, if there's an opportunity to time out/Mankad any of the opponents in SF or finals absolutely do that - and don't take back the appeal from pressure of umps or *ing guardians of the eternal BS spirit of the game! Lord and tweaker 2 Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I dare the umpire to time out Kohli in THE Final.. Sgattick10 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, nitinbwj said: I dare the umpire to time out Kohli in THE Final.. probably the umpire will be invaded by hordes of fans Link to comment
Lord Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 The next batsmen should already be on the boundary instead of dressing room. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 International cricketers are already aware of this and try to follow this rule. That's why you see Kohli is always ready and sprints towards crease. Link to comment
Nash Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I dont think so that it could happen to Indian batsman. Indians don't make this type of silly mistakes. They just make blunders in team selections only. Link to comment
straighttalk Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 7 hours ago, SRT100 said: Thank you. You just demonstrated to me your understanding of cricket. There is a huge advantage in being late to the crease, the bowling side has just taken a wicket and has all the momentum and energy from that. By taking your time you not only give yourself more time to prepare for the next ball but you reduce that momentum lift that the bowling side has. Batsmen dont sit for hours in the dugout, this is an ODI. Really..waiting 3 mins instead of 2 mins is going to take all the momentum away from the bowlers..ok got it ..your highly elevated sense of understanding of the game Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 9 hours ago, straighttalk said: Really..waiting 3 mins instead of 2 mins is going to take all the momentum away from the bowlers..ok got it ..your highly elevated sense of understanding of the game I dont expect you to even remotely fathom Adrenalin levels and the impact that has on performance. Your backward education has not provided you with the platform to make a cogent argument here. Link to comment
straighttalk Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) On 11/7/2023 at 3:50 PM, SRT100 said: I dont expect you to even remotely fathom Adrenalin levels and the impact that has on performance. Your backward education has not provided you with the platform to make a cogent argument here. Haha..ya dude..if you even fathom my level of education you wouldn't open your mouth here ..better make fun of my armchair cricketing skills..you got a much more cogent argument there...my cricketing skills might be lower than yours Anyhow use your logic how adrenaline drop.. goes down from 3 to 2 mins..how time outs for ads..over breaks..injury breaks..drink breaks etc does not impact it but new batsman arrival does.. if you said it breaks batsman flow rhythm or concentration...that makes sense but yep the extra one min affects only the bowling teams rhythm is ever educational to me and others To be clear this rule is there so that people do no waste time and take 50 mins to come in. To ensure over rate is maintained. It is not there to maintain biochemical momentum. 2 to 3 mins is not going to impact only bowling teams momentum. More time is wasted due to drinks injuries ads planning field placement etc. So keep you bs logic that this rule is there to maintain biochemical integrity. While adrenaline level drops..that is not the reason for the rule. In this case mathews was in the field..his equipment broke... instead of 2 mins..if it took 3 mins .Bangla adrenaline would not have dropped drastically. Edited November 9, 2023 by straighttalk Link to comment
cricketfan28 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Nz will not do it , they are too nice. SA's Bavuma is a gentleman, Aussies will certainly do it(they might cheat so should be careful) but Bavuma will send them back in semis. Link to comment
Tillu Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Delhi police. Frustrated and tweaker 2 Link to comment
Texan Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Memory of this dismissal is fresh in everyone's mind and I am sure TM will enforce some rules around next batsman being ready (with helmet tested) before a wicket falls. Helmet must be worn immediately at the fall of the wicket so that in case a strap breaks, it can be replaced immediately when batsman is still in the pavilion. Link to comment
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