You can’t even pay people to have more kids

[coffee_rules]

7 minutes ago, gattaca said:

Japanese don’t even marry others as well. No easy fix for them. 

Unless they are Foreign  Ministers like S Jaishankar

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, cowboysfan said:

not sure where you got the info but Japan has the one of the worst fertility rate in the world just 1.34.they also are very Xenophobic and wont allow immigration like USA,they are facing terminal decline in this century.

 

I meant Japan as a model of managing the demographic decline and its impact on the economy. The demo decline started in late 90s and for 20 years they have prevented shrinking of the economy. The country to go first through this cycle and so far they have done okay. 

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

They have an aging population and less new people coming in. To top it, they have the most xenophobic immigration policy, they are destined for doom. 

 

That was the consensus till 5 years back. Look at the latest views. Its not bullish but steps taken by their govt seems to be having an impact.

[Nikhil_cric]

On 12/4/2023 at 8:42 PM, ravishingravi said:

 

I meant Japan as a model of managing the demographic decline and its impact on the economy. The demo decline started in late 90s and for 20 years they have prevented shrinking of the economy. The country to go first through this cycle and so far they have done okay. 

Yep. People have been scaremongering about the demographic transition being ruinous but Japan has done remarkably well all things considered.  India has a long way to go before we are anywhere near that.

 

If anything, responsibly controlling the population will be even more crucial for India considering there are likely to be food and resource shortages in the future considering the current rate of global consumption.

[cowboysfan]

15 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yep. People have been scaremongering about the demographic transition being ruinous but Japan has done remarkably well all things considered.  India has a long way to go before we are anywhere near that.

 

If anything, responsibly controlling the population will be even more crucial for India considering there are likely to be food and resource shortages in the future considering the current rate of global consumption.

well if Japan has taught us anything then the more prosperous people are the more their fertility goes down,India is on the way without any more push.

[Tillu]

Out of all the advanced economies Japan has the highest debt to GDP ratio of more than 200%. They are using debt to service their ageing population needs. They are not out of the woods yet.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Tillu

[ravishingravi]

1 hour ago, cowboysfan said:

well if Japan has taught us anything then the more prosperous people are the more their fertility goes down,India is on the way without any more push.

 

Actually its not a function of prosperity. It is a function of urbanization. In a farm, children are useful free loyal labour. More the merrier. In a big city, not so much. 

[Nikhil_cric]

3 hours ago, cowboysfan said:

well if Japan has taught us anything then the more prosperous people are the more their fertility goes down,India is on the way without any more push.

 

Fertility decline happens for a multitude of reasons. Prosperity is one of them but also the impact of women in the workforce and the use of protection being widespread etc, rising costs of raising families

 

Sri Lanka is hardly a prosperous nation by  Western standards but their literacy levels are very high and it's a more egalitarian society by South Asian standards and they've managed to keep population growth in check. 

 

 

[Muloghonto]

5 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

 

Actually its not a function of prosperity. It is a function of urbanization. In a farm, children are useful free loyal labour. More the merrier. In a big city, not so much. 

Urbanism or Prosperity to curb population growth rate doesnt work in the arab world for eg. So clearly, these are not the main driving forces, despite however many speculation these artsy western scholars make. 

[Nikhil_cric]

10 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Urbanism or Prosperity to curb population growth rate doesnt work in the arab world for eg. So clearly, these are not the main driving forces, despite however many speculation these artsy western scholars make. 

 

Prosperous Arab nations of Kuwait, UAE,  and Saudi have seen massive fertility declines -  2.1, 1.7, and 2.4 respectively in the said countries.  Not all Arab nations are prosperous.  It's obviously much higher in the West Bank, Yemen, Iraq and other war-torn areas

[Muloghonto]

15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

Prosperous Arab nations of Kuwait, UAE,  and Saudi have seen massive fertility declines -  2.1, 1.7, and 2.4 respectively in the said countries.  Not all Arab nations are prosperous.  It's obviously much higher in the West Bank, Yemen, Iraq and other war-torn areas

but no, you see there is a genocide in Filasteen. Despite the fact that the slope to their population growth curve is steeper than India's for every single decade since 1950. 

 

[ravishingravi]

2 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

but no, you see there is a genocide in Filasteen. Despite the fact that the slope to their population growth curve is steeper than India's for every single decade since 1950. 

 

 

They are getting paid massive sums to keep reproducing like rabbits and keep the conflict festering. Funding from Qatar and Iran. 

[Ranvir]

On 12/4/2023 at 1:50 PM, coffee_rules said:

They have an aging population and less new people coming in. To top it, they have the most xenophobic immigration policy, they are destined for doom. 

Well that immigration policy means that they don't have many of the social problems that countries with widespread immigration do. You won't see looting, BLM, Pro Palestinian terror in Tokyo. It is one of the few countries that actually care about its people, they try to ensure everyone has a job. 

 

With the rise of AI having a smaller population will probably be a good thing. 

[Muloghonto]

5 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Well that immigration policy means that they don't have many of the social problems that countries with widespread immigration do. You won't see looting, BLM, Pro Palestinian terror in Tokyo. It is one of the few countries that actually care about its people, they try to ensure everyone has a job. 

 

With the rise of AI having a smaller population will probably be a good thing. 

Those are yankee problems, not immigration problems. Only seen outside yankeestan in its poodle dog Al Bartania. There aint no widespread looting, blm, etc in Canada or australia. 

Rise of AI is massively overhyped. 

[Ranvir]

11 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Those are yankee problems, not immigration problems. Only seen outside yankeestan in its poodle dog Al Bartania. There aint no widespread looting, blm, etc in Canada or australia. 

Rise of AI is massively overhyped. 

You missed France and Belgium. 

Australia has Lebanese grooming gangs. The Dutch are fed up of immigration hence the victory of Wilders. 

[Muloghonto]

1 minute ago, Ranvir said:

You missed France and Belgium. 

Australia has Lebanese grooming gangs. The Dutch are fed up of immigration hence the victory of Wilders. 

Australia's grooming gang problem is minor and overstated. These are isloo problems, not immigration problems. Immigration to the west is the historical cycle of Asians colonising the west. 

[Ranvir]

8 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

Australia's grooming gang problem is minor and overstated. These are isloo problems, not immigration problems. Immigration to the west is the historical cycle of Asians colonising the west. 

Get help. 

[Muloghonto]

4 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Get help. 

For what ?

[Lannister]

Instead of formulating these useless policies that don't yield results, they should explore the implementation of a four-hour workday and the enforcement of strong, pro-worker labor laws. The population decline is linked to our capitalist economic system, which doesn't align well with our core democratic beliefs. 

[Muloghonto]

4 hours ago, Lannister said:

Instead of formulating these useless policies that don't yield results, they should explore the implementation of a four-hour workday and the enforcement of strong, pro-worker labor laws. The population decline is linked to our capitalist economic system, which doesn't align well with our core democratic beliefs. 

i guess thats why former communist states in Europe have the lower fertility rates than usa, bub. 4 hour work days and pro labour laws - tells me that like your commie fatty lazy marx, you too are a total zero in math.

Tell us how many hours nigerians and sub saharan africans work and what their fertility rate is or what their system of economics is- capitalist or retarded leftist. 

Leftoids - the ultimate world champs at ignoring empirical evidence and making **** up to cope with their nonsense views of the world.