Vijy Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 hours ago, Gollum said: Murray was more consistent, Stan had a slightly higher peak, I rate Murray higher but when compared to Big 3 these 2 fall in the same bracket, somewhat. Apart from majors, Murray easily surpasses Stan whether it be Masters 1000s, ATP Finals, rankings, overall H2H against Big 3, number of deep runs, Olympic singles golds (x2). Stan's slam victories were more impressive for me, also helped by the fact that Nole was a good match up for peak Stan. del potro was another talent who got lost because of injuries. I still remember his savage beat down of nadal Link to comment
Gollum Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Vijy said: del potro was another talent who got lost because of injuries. I still remember his savage beat down of nadal Talent sure but he didn't have backhand, not even challenger level BH. Federer's stubbornness and ego to play FH vs FH against del Potro made him look much better than he was. Murray and Stan had complete game, sure you can always point defects like Murray's second serve or Stan's ROS, but nothing as glaring as being completely useless in one wing. Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/10/2024 at 1:22 AM, sensible-indian said: I think we will move from strength to strength from here on. My only fear is our kaptan. Wostu fellow. Toss and individual performances won us in 2nd test. Lose toss, we will play catch up and lose. I just wish Rohit guesses it right in the next three tests. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Toss and individual performances won us in 2nd test. Lose toss, we will play catch up and lose. I just wish Rohit guesses it right in the next three tests. True. But i see us getting better. Iyer is gone. No Kela. Sarfraz is in. Jurel might be too. Jaddu will back. Had Rohit kept it simple, margin of voctory in 2nd test would have been big. We gave too much away in the 4th innings. Lets see. coffee_rules and nevada 2 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 50 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: True. But i see us getting better. Iyer is gone. No Kela. Sarfraz is in. Jurel might be too. Jaddu will back. Had Rohit kept it simple, margin of voctory in 2nd test would have been big. We gave too much away in the 4th innings. Lets see. Even in Test1, if Kela and others had not gifted their wickets in I1 and taken more lead, 20 odd runs would be lesser to score in I2. But, that is all in hindsight. Who knows how much more England would have scored then. Definitely, we think back, England should be happy that we are not ruthless and underprepared unlike always. Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/9/2024 at 9:50 PM, Gollum said: English media at its finest. Why it feels like England are beating India 2-0 despite the 1-1 scoreline LINK Lol..they didnt miss Pope's chances or if he didnt play that innings..tab bhi yehi bolte kya.. having said that..India is underperforming or their level is anyways low now..that is their expected performnce..lol Link to comment
tapandrun Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) They were terming that over from flintoff as best over ever bowled, best ball ever bowled. Its similar to how Ind sports jurno find v.niche records for Ind player--- Batter with such SR and that no. of runs/wkts on that certain day on solar calendar. Eng came to this tour with low expectation and they dominated first test, and Ind is an aging and depleting side They all are part of broadcasting so every jurno overhype an sporting event Edited February 15 by tapandrun Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, Gollum said: Talent sure but he didn't have backhand, not even challenger level BH. Federer's stubbornness and ego to play FH vs FH against del Potro made him look much better than he was. Murray and Stan had complete game, sure you can always point defects like Murray's second serve or Stan's ROS, but nothing as glaring as being completely useless in one wing. remember soderling? another player with huge talent in some areas, and huge zero in others Link to comment
Frustrated Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Media is not wrong here. Scoreline might be 1-1 on paper. But Bazballers hv beaten the hell out of Indian bowlers and indian fans as the tournament has progressed. Eng leading 2-1 (and eventually winning the series) looks likely unless a miracle happens. Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 It'll be 2-1 in their favour soon. We can't do anything against bazball. Link to comment
Frustrated Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, maggot_brain said: It'll be 2-1 in their favour soon. We can't do anything against bazball. This thread is not going to age well. Will it? Link to comment
Soldier Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 i think it will be 2 - 2 this series one will be a draw. crap fest Link to comment
Norman Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, Frustrated said: Media is not wrong here. Scoreline might be 1-1 on paper. But Bazballers hv beaten the hell out of Indian bowlers and indian fans as the tournament has progressed. Eng leading 2-1 (and eventually winning the series) looks likely unless a miracle happens. Ghanta... India have dominated 80% of this series except the day 5 batting collapse in Hyderabad chasing a below par total. Still a long way to go in this test too before we place the blades on our wrists. nevada 1 Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Frustrated said: This thread is not going to age well. Will it? Every single one of our bowlers is getting smashed. Our captain's tactics are clueless. Mentally we're not strong. Let's see state of play at lunch tomorrow, it could easily be 350-370 for 3. Link to comment
tweaker Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, maggot_brain said: Every single one of our bowlers is getting smashed. Our captain's tactics are clueless. Mentally we're not strong. Let's see state of play at lunch tomorrow, it could easily be 350-370 for 3. If lead crosses 250,we may face a inning defeat Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, tweaker said: If lead crosses 250,we may face a inning defeat it will cross 300 lead IMO Link to comment
maggot_brain Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 LOL very happy to have been proven wrong so far. Never thought Siraj would sort himself out like he has. Link to comment
ravishingravi Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 hours ago, Vijy said: it will cross 300 lead IMO Not quite. Frustrated and Vijy 2 Link to comment
nevada Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/15/2024 at 8:16 AM, Vijy said: remember soderling? another player with huge talent in some areas, and huge zero in others Roger remembers him very well, sends him a gift check every anniversary of his earth shattering win against Nadal at RG! Vijy 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, maggot_brain said: LOL very happy to have been proven wrong so far. Never thought Siraj would sort himself out like he has. He is like a volatile stock. First he has to fall before a sudden spurt. Link to comment
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