Akashdeep

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

Deep dasgupta too as commie

Or Deep ASSgupta

[BacktoCricaddict]

15 hours ago, AKane said:

Arshdeep and Akashdeep..... Imagine them playing together in T20 WC. Fun for the commentators..... "Arshdeep from one end, Akashdeep from the other".

 

Words I'd love hear in the final:  Australia in deep trouble!!

[Frustrated]

Refreshing to see a no. 10 batter having some batting skills as well.     Apart from his bowling (which is a massive upgrade over Gutkesh), Akash deep can score some handy runs down the order.  That six he hit today was awesome.   

[express bowling]

21 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Refreshing to see a no. 10 batter having some batting skills as well.     Apart from his bowling (which is a massive upgrade over Gutkesh), Akash deep can score some handy runs down the order.  That six he hit today was awesome.   

 

What is refreshing to see is that we have been able to introduce some batting ability down the order without compromising bowling ability  ( like we usually do with Chahar, Harshal, Thakur, Unadkat  etc. )

Edited February 25 by express bowling

[Vijy]

45 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

Refreshing to see a no. 10 batter having some batting skills as well.     Apart from his bowling (which is a massive upgrade over Gutkesh), Akash deep can score some handy runs down the order.  That six he hit today was awesome.   

he should work on improving it further. if anything, his batting regressed a bit this ranji season - could be the tragic family deaths that were affecting him

[Need4Speed]

On 2/24/2024 at 12:21 PM, BacktoCricaddict said:

 

Words I'd love hear in the final:  Australia in deep trouble!!

Add Kuldeep too

[putrevus]

How is Thakur compromising the bowling ability.He is the fourth seamer and he has done very well for given his role.

 

He has scored some very vital runs too.If other three guys cannot do their job then it is not his fault. He did everything possible with ball to win the series against SA in 2022 but other guys could not even help him in second innings.

 

He should play in Australia again.No one is better than him for fourth seamer spot.

Edited March 5 by putrevus

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

How is Thakur compromising the bowling ability.He is the fourth seamer and he has done very well for given his role.

 

He has scored some very vital runs too.If other three guys cannot do their job then it is not his fault. He did everything possible with ball to win the series against SA in 2022 but other guys could not even help him in second innings.

 

He should play in Australia again.No one is better than him for fourth seamer spot.

Did you saw him in Centurion?  He is old and mediocre now.  

[putrevus]

29 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Did you saw him in Centurion?  He is old and mediocre now.  

So what, can't he have bad inning, they had three other bowlers what were they doing there. How many bad innings others bowlers had, he should play at every venue where they are playing 4 fast bowlers.

 

He did not look old in Ranji semi finals.Do you have anybody better?

Edited March 5 by putrevus

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, putrevus said:

So what, can't he have bad inning, they had three other bowlers what were they doing there. How many bad innings others bowlers had, he should play at every venue where they are playing 4 fast bowlers.

Dude he regularly goes 7-8 RPO in ODIs these days...  He is a toothless bowler.  Shardul of 3 years ago is vastly different to what he is now. 

He is done and dusted.  Don't think he has fitness to sustain even 130k speeds. 

He was trundling at 125 kph this week. 

Even Mitch Marsh would bowl quicker than him & there is no comparison comparison when it comes to batting. 

He is no All rounder. 

[putrevus]

3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Dude he regularly goes 7-8 RPO in ODIs these days...  He is a toothless bowler.  Shardul of 3 years ago is vastly different to what he is now. 

He is done and dusted.  Don't think he has fitness to sustain even 130k speeds. 

He was trundling at 125 kph this week. 

Even Mitch Marsh would bowl quicker than him & there is no comparison comparison when it comes to batting. 

He is no All rounder. 

They are playing tests.He looked just fine in the last FC match he played, he still can swing the ball into LHB and he can still bat better than any fast bowler India has, on that basis he plays all tests where India plays 4+Jadeja. If they are playing in Sydney then Ashwin comes in.

[express bowling]

57 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Did you saw him in Centurion?  He is old and mediocre now.  

 

27 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Dude he regularly goes 7-8 RPO in ODIs these days...  He is a toothless bowler.  Shardul of 3 years ago is vastly different to what he is now. 

He is done and dusted.  Don't think he has fitness to sustain even 130k speeds. 

He was trundling at 125 kph this week. 

Even Mitch Marsh would bowl quicker than him & there is no comparison comparison when it comes to batting. 

He is no All rounder. 

 

 

You are right.  

 

Shardul averages 66+ with the ball in 4 tests in the last 2 years. 

 

He has looked unfit, innocuous and below par in this period. Not the same bowler who bowled at the Gabba 3 years back, and further time will.elapse.

[Lone Wolf]

59 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

 

You are right.  

 

Shardul averages 66+ with the ball in 4 tests in the last 2 years. 

 

He has looked unfit, innocuous and below par in this period. Not the same bowler who bowled at the Gabba 3 years back, and further time will.elapse.

It was pathetic to see him bowl in Centurion.  Kept giving 2-3 boundary balls per over. 

He has been discarded rightly from LOIs for a reason & now his fans want to see him play in Aus. 

 I'll take Venky Iyer and Shivam Dube over him.  

[Suhaan]

He should retire and sit besides deep dasgupta,murli kartik,irsha bhogle ,Manju Sanju

[putrevus]

Thakur will do fine IMO in Australia, it is not as if we have someone like him ready. When was last time guy like Harshit Rana played FC. You don't magically appear on the scene and do well in Australia.

 

I would be surprised not to see Thakur in the squad to Australia.

 

 

[tapandrun]

The problem with Shradul is there are too many lose deliveries and he is not able to create/sustain any pressure on the batters.

 

If that one magic delivery does not come than you are looking at 4+ rpo, all he bowls are rubbish and then 1 golden ball from nowhere. 

Would take this kind of risk if he was pure batter and bowling overs here or there and have a golden arm kind of situation but not sure how many teams can have pure #3/4 bowler with this situation.

 

 

[Suhaan]

8 hours ago, putrevus said:

Thakur will do fine IMO in Australia, it is not as if we have someone like him ready. When was last time guy like Harshit Rana played FC. You don't magically appear on the scene and do well in Australia.

 

I would be surprised not to see Thakur in the squad to Australia.

 

 

Harshit has played 7 FC matches and averages 26 with the ball and 48-49 with the bat

I understand your point you suddenly don't appear for a tour to Aus,but then it is upto the selectors and TM to get the next lot ready

Even Ishant played few games for national side before going to Aus

Harshit has all the ingredients to do well on hard bouncy surfaces there but then the planning as always has been poor by Selectors and TM

And noone is predicting he will be sure shot success there and shouldn't be judged for that

Reverse is also true sometimes,people have great beginning and falters in middle/later

Ishant struggled from 2009-2014/15 untill he worked with Gillespie and had a stint in counties

So guidance and the path you choose is as important as your skills

Edited March 6 by Suhaan

[singhvivek141]

10 hours ago, putrevus said:

Thakur will do fine IMO in Australia, it is not as if we have someone like him ready. When was last time guy like Harshit Rana played FC. You don't magically appear on the scene and do well in Australia.

 

I would be surprised not to see Thakur in the squad to Australia.

 

 

He will be in Australia because we haven't developed any options.

 

Hangargekar, Yudhvir, Harshit all 3 of them were either injured or were not considered for Ranji. Harshit was doing well from last one year and played everywhere. Got injured at the wrong time, but he was the go to bowler for Delhi from last one year.

[putrevus]

6 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

He will be in Australia because we haven't developed any options.

 

Hangargekar, Yudhvir, Harshit all 3 of them were either injured or were not considered for Ranji. Harshit was doing well from last one year and played everywhere. Got injured at the wrong time, but he was the go to bowler for Delhi from last one year.

I disagree with developed part.It is also upto players to show development. If they are not cracking their respective Ranji teams  then what will they do for Indian team. Guy like Thakur was left behind a Pandya who was gifted test cap but he kept play FC and even now he is doing it knowing fully well he will play only odd matches.

 

Being good at under 19 level is not good enough, you need to show imrovement.

 

Fast bowlers is still the fastest way to crack Indian team.Fast bowling allrounders are like gold.Guy like Tyagi is another example, this was the season for him to either make a move or show immense improvement and play consistently for his state team.

 

How long will you keep blaming others and not take things into your own hands.

 

Edited March 6 by putrevus

[singhvivek141]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I disagree with developed part.It is also upto players to show development. If they are not cracking their respective Ranji teams  then what will they do for Indian team. Guy like Thakur was left behind a Pandya who was gifted test cap but he kept play FC and even now he is doing it knowing fully well he will play only odd matches.

 

Being good at under 19 level is not good enough, you need to show imrovement.

 

Fast bowlers is still the fastest way to crack Indian team.Fast bowlers allrounders are like gold.Guy like Tyagi is another example, this was the season for him to either make a move or show immense improvement and play consistently for his state team.

 

How long will you keep blaming others and not take things into your own hands.

 

Agree on Tyagi's part, he should have switched the sides considering UPCA is ignoring him consistently for red ball.

Maybe since they played him this year regularly in Vijay Hazare, Syed Mushtaq and when selected for Ranji..he hoped few games this season in Ranji as well.

But UPCA selected Bhuvaneshwar Kumar (though his name wasn't on the Ranji probables list) on the helpful pitches.

I hope now he learn from this mistake and move to some other state for opportunities. As I am assuming from next season even Shivam Mavi will get fit and come in the mix of selections.

 

Harshit has played regularly for Delhi in all 3 formats..he was even choosen for Duleep Trophy which shows how much DDCA supports him. But he got injured at the wrong time else he would have played Ranji this year as well. He was one of the successful bowlers for Delhi last Ranji season outbowling likes of Saini & Ishant.