Akashdeep

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Not really. Upright seam gets seam movement which is more prevalent in south africa, not that much in England. In England, you need to swing the ball and upright seam does not help in conventional swing. To swing the ball, you need tilted seam; towards slip for outswing like Dale steyn and anderson, towards fine leg for in swing which anderson was master at and Bhuvi when he started his india career.  

 

Lately, shami too started doing the tilted seam for swing but it takes a lot of practice. Upright seam is highly overrated.

 Here is the seam positions for inswing and outswing.

 

Mcgrath was seam bowler who developed swing very late in his career. Ambrose again was seam bowler. They both did more than alright in England.

 

Shami was not in their class.

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10 hours ago, putrevus said:

Mcgrath was seam bowler who developed swing very late in his career. Ambrose again was seam bowler. They both did more than alright in England.

 

Shami was not in their class.

McGrath was 6 feet 5, Ambrose was 6'6. Their strength was bounce.

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12 hours ago, putrevus said:

Mcgrath was seam bowler who developed swing very late in his career. Ambrose again was seam bowler. They both did more than alright in England.

 

Shami was not in their class.

Bhai, Mcgrath didn't depend on his swing, it was his length. Ambrose again was an enforcer because of line and bounce. Shami is a very different bowler. It doesn't mean Shami doesn't produce similar results as them.

 

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On 7/7/2025 at 11:56 PM, rkt.india said:

McGrath was 6 feet 5, Ambrose was 6'6. Their strength was bounce.

Their strength was accuracy and they could pound that seam from length due to their height.

 

Jason Holder is of their height but he was a different bowler.But was more swing bowler.

 

Shami was not so accurate as them and also his avg was awful in England due to his first tour.Shami was awful in SA too on his first tour.His lack of fitness played a role for his lack of success initially, in India he like many other fast bowlers could get away as spinners would be doing heavy lifting.

 

 

Seam bowlers can be very successful in England too.

Edited July 9, 2025 by putrevus

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Their strength was accuracy and they could pound that seam from length due to their height.

 

Jason Holder is of their height but he was a different bowler.But was more swing bowler.

 

Shami was not so accurate as them and also his avg was awful in England due to his first tour.Shami was awful in SA too on his first tour.His lack of fitness played a role for his lack of success initially, in India he like many other fast bowlers could get away as spinners would be doing heavy lifting.

 

 

Seam bowlers can be very successful in England too.

Shami averaged 39 and 34 even in 2018 and 2021 and those were mostly helpful conditions.

 

He lacked control but he lacked swing too.

Edited July 9, 2025 by rkt.india

[putrevus]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Shami averaged 39 and 34 even in 2018 and 2021 and those were mostly helpful conditions.

 

He lacked control but he lacked swing too.

He lacked control more than he lacked swing.He also lacked using the crease to create different angles.

Edited July 9, 2025 by putrevus

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3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Shami averaged 39 and 34 even in 2018 and 2021 and those were mostly helpful conditions.

 

He lacked control but he lacked swing too.

Watch Ashwin video on his explanation about difference between Shami and Akash.

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Fantastic knock today. Should be backed at no. 9 and maybe even no.8 in future allowing to play extra seamer.

 

Bowled well withoout luck