zen Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 (edited) Since comedies are being discussed too, I would like to mention Nau Do Gyarah (1957). It can also be loosely described as a romantic comedy-thriller. It starts as a fun road movie and then turns into an investigative film. Goldie (Vijay Anand) makes his debut as a director. Luckily, Nau Do Gyarah was shot in B&W so you can avoid watching Dev in orange, pink, red, and yellow tops. Dev Anand in the 50s was relatively restrained in his mannerisms. He works well in investigative films. Kalpna Kartik is such a wonderful actress. It is fun to watch her . Too bad that she only did films with Navketan-Dev Anand (iirc). She married Dev Anand on the sets of Taxi Driver (1954). Dev-Kalpana was probably the first real-world couple to work on screen together as lead characters. She should have given acting lessons to Dev Anand, who later on got stuck in his "style". Give this film a shot. Hopefully, find a print in the original aspect ratio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrYWXvTuu9o Edited June 2 by zen coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 7 hours ago, Mariyam said: Aha, so you would be okay with SRK’s character talk to a ghost at night? Night me ghost dikhna is still understandable...broad daylight me dikhna is weirdness of different level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, zen said: Since comedies are being discussed too, I would like to mention Nau Do Gyarah (1957). It can also be loosely described as a romantic comedy-thriller. It starts as a fun road movie and then turns into an investigative film. Goldie (Vijay Anand) makes his debut as a director. Luckily, Nau Do Gyarah was shot in B&W so you can avoid watching Dev in orange, pink, red, and yellow tops. Dev Anand in the 50s was relatively restrained in his mannerisms. He works well in investigative films. Kalpna Kartik is such a wonderful actress. It is fun to watch her . Too bad that she only did films with Navketan-Dev Anand (iirc). She married Dev Anand on the sets of Taxi Driver (1954). Dev-Kalpana was probably the first real-world couple to work on screen together as lead characters. She should have given acting lessons to Dev Anand, who later on got stuck in his "style". Give this film a shot. Hopefully, find a print in the original aspect ratio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrYWXvTuu9o Is she the same Kalpana who acted in movie "Teen Deviyaan" ? She was an absolute beauty, a close second after Madhubala. Edited June 2 by singhvivek141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 38 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Is she the same Kalpana who acted in movie "Teen Deviyaan" ? She was an absolute beauty, a close second after Madhubala. No, that is just "Kalpana", who worked in Professor (1962) too. The one being talked about is Kalpana Karthik (Dev's wife). Below is her filmography: Year Film Character 1951 Baazi Dr. Rajni 1952 Aandhiyan Janki 1953 Humsafar Malti 1954 Taxi Driver Mala 1955 House No. 44 Nimmo 1957 Nau Do Gyarah Raksha coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Pyaasa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Only the Jimmy & Priety Jhangiani part was good/decent. Uday Khopra's story was terrible. Jugal's story was just so so, maybe coz her actress was extremely bad. If there is any copy of Hollywood that has totally screwed the original intent of the story, this move has got to get the award. There is one short love story in Dead Poets’ Society that resembles the of Jugal’s in this movie. He made the central theme of the movie only about bubble gum teenage infatuation, screwed up the serious tragic ending and totally did gross injustice to the original theme which was about self-expression, freedom of thought and fight the oppression of thought controlling system . singhvivek141 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: Is she the same Kalpana who acted in movie "Teen Deviyaan" ? She was an absolute beauty, a close second after Madhubala. No way, Madhubala ranks supreme in classical beauty, grace and charm among all actresses. Only Madhuri came close who tried to copy her smile and mannerisms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singhvivek141 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 (edited) 52 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: No way, Madhubala ranks supreme in classical beauty, grace and charm among all actresses. Only Madhuri came close who tried to copy her smile and mannerisms. It maybe unpopular opinion, but I find Madhuri's smile at times forced & unnatural, maybe coz she seems a serious person outside camera. She is an excellent dancer and actor though which gives her an edge over Juhi. Juhi though excels in comic roles & maybe in negative role (opinion based on Gulaab Gang). Madhubala was grand beauty...probably best of all time in Indian film history. However Kalpana too was cute for my liking. Edited June 2 by singhvivek141 coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 13 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: It maybe unpopular opinion, but I find Madhuri's smile at times forced & unnatural, maybe coz she seems a serious person outside camera. She is an excellent dancer and actor though which gives her an edge over Juhi. Juhi though excels in comic roles & maybe in negative role (opinion based on Gulaab Gang). Madhubala was grand beauty...probably best of all time in Indian film history. However Kalpana too was cute for my liking. funny thing is that audiences of the time preferred nalini jaywant to madhu(bala). as for me, the voluptuous bala light up my childhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 Using this thread to point out the similarities b/w Chaudhvin Ka Chand (1960) and Sangam (1964). Let's look at the 3 key characters: A = Waheeda Rehman / Vyjayanthimala B = Guru Dutt / Rajendra Kumar C = Rehman / Raj Kapoor In the first one, C loves A, but A, unaware of C's feelings, weds B. B finds out about C's feelings and tries to steer A away from him so she can give him talak and marry C. C finds out the truth about A being B's wife and sacrifices himself by drinking poison kept in his ring. In the second one, A loves B but marries C at B's "out of the way" insistence, eventually performing her duties faithfully as C's wife. C finds the truth but B sacrifices himself by shooting himself. I won't be surprised if Sangam's screenplay was influenced by Chaudvin Ka Chand's with Raj Kapoor making enough changes to differentiate his film. Of course, the treatment (and scale) of the story is different, which creates a space for both films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 3 Author Share Posted June 3 On a thread on romantic films, it is not surprising to see the actresses being discussed. Currently, I feel that it is difficult to beat the actresses of 50s-60s as they have gravitas which translates into style, substance/depth, and maturity on screen. Kalpana Karthik, Saira Banu, Asha Parekh, Sharmila Tagore, Sadhna, Vyjantimala, Waheeda Rehman, ..., ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 7 hours ago, zen said: On a thread on romantic films, it is not surprising to see the actresses being discussed. Currently, I feel that it is difficult to beat the actresses of 50s-60s as they have gravitas which translates into style, substance/depth, and maturity on screen. Kalpana Karthik, Saira Banu, Asha Parekh, Sharmila Tagore, Sadhna, Vyjantimala, Waheeda Rehman, ..., ... also nalini jaywant in early 50s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 On 6/2/2024 at 5:16 PM, singhvivek141 said: Night me ghost dikhna is still understandable...broad daylight me dikhna is weirdness of different level. I'd argue that is the essence of their romance. He is so in love with her even after she is long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 26 minutes ago, Mariyam said: I'd argue that is the essence of their delusion. He is so in obsession with her even after she is long gone. fixed for you :P Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 4 Author Share Posted June 4 (edited) 16 hours ago, Vijy said: also nalini jaywant in early 50s Not to forget (for their acting) Meena Kumari, Nutan, etc. Actresses like Mumtaz made it big in the latter half of the 60s (Do Raaste 1969). Hema Malini also made her Bollywood debut in 1968. Many of these actresses (Waheeda Rehman, Sadhna, Asha Parekh, Saira Banu, Sharmila Tagore, Mumtaz, Rakhee, Hema Malini, ...) were born in the late 1930s (Waheeda) - 1940s ... Nargis, Geeta Bali, Kalpana Karthik, Madhubala, Meena Kumari, Vyjantimala and Nutan were born in the late 1920s (Nargis) - 1930s. Unfortunately, it was also the period when once an actress entered her 30s, she would find it relatively difficult to get "interesting" lead roles. Edited June 4 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Prem ratan dhan payo Lucky: no time for love Tees maar Khan coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 Milan 1967 … if you like the theme of reincarnation Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 (edited) Kala Bazar (1960) This may be perceived as a film dealing with a black marketer (and there is some time devoted to it) but at its core, this is a love story where a black marketer becomes a white marketer while also taking his gang on the right path because the woman he loves has high values which ignites the goodness in him ... Another excellent film directed by Goldie. He starts in it too, along with Chetan Anand. Dev Anand and Waheeda Rehman work well as the lead actors. Of course, Dev Anand expresses his "style" in "Khoya Khoya Chand" and it stuck me that Dev Anand may have studied monkeys to develop his style: Anyways, the evergreen Dev still rules our hearts!! Edited June 6 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Tere Ghar Ke Samne (1963) An interesting and entertaining romantic comedy directed by Goldie and starring Dev Anand and Nutan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Sholay - Amitabh and Jaya coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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