coffee_rules Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 54 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: What is the real news then? Conspiracy theories? What you consider as real news is also a narrative setting . You have to take it with a lot of salt. Over the years you read opinionists and non-MSM and make your judgement call. Not all opinions outside of MSM can be considered CT. If we believe our Indian textbooks , we thought Stalin was a benevolent dictator. But he is in fact as bad as Hitler. We believed the former narrative as it was in our “real” news media then. “Real” news media is always grey!
gattaca Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Pakistan is going to subservient to USA regardless of who is in power. Sure they go behind the back and betray them by hiding osama. But they know their country is in a strategic location which can be used as a bargain chip. USA regime change is historically a failure. They never succeeded in it. We are giving too much credit to USA for "intervening" . They were able to mobilize a large number of people against the incumbent government out of the blue? It is a long reach. I am still trying to see a Bangladeshi who is in support of her besides her family. So if the people want her to be in power how can USA "intervene" There is a reason why she banned YouTube , Facebook and whatsapp. She was trying to cut down the propaganda. There was a build up to the protests. US complained last year itself about Hasina and kept quiet after she won the elections. This didnt happen overnight. Social media is danger. China was smart to ban all U.S. platforms they know they can build a narrative using these platforms. U.S. built a narrative over the years about sheikh Hasina. Why do you think younis is the prime minister of the care taker government. U.S. something similar in India with farmer protests. The bill was helpful for farmers. Edited August 16, 2024 by gattaca raki05 and Lone Wolf 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 5 hours ago, coffee_rules said: What you consider as real news is also a narrative setting . You have to take it with a lot of salt. Over the years you read opinionists and non-MSM and make your judgement call. Not all opinions outside of MSM can be considered CT. If we believe our Indian textbooks , we thought Stalin was a benevolent dictator. But he is in fact as bad as Hitler. We believed the former narrative as it was in our “real” news media then. “Real” news media is always grey! Non-MSM are 90% garbage with extremely biased and logically twisted presentation. I listen to that crap every day on conservative talk radio every day.
vvvslaxman Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, gattaca said: There is a reason why she banned YouTube , Facebook and whatsapp. She was trying to cut down the propaganda. There was a build up to the protests. US complained last year itself about Hasina and kept quiet after she won the elections. This didnt happen overnight. Social media is danger. China was smart to ban all U.S. platforms they know they can build a narrative using these platforms. U.S. built a narrative over the years about sheikh Hasina. Why do you think younis is the prime minister of the care taker government. U.S. something similar in India with farmer protests. The bill was helpful for farmers. There are no concrete evidence of any of that. If we start shifting anything we don't like on USA then we don't really look for truth. If Social media is the best way to manipulate people Indians can change the entire world with their massive presence building narratives.
randomGuy Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) Now watch @vvvslaxman defend his 'adopted country'. Mention Rahul Gandhi's silence on Bangladeshi Hindus and watch @Lone Wolf bull$hit the thread with 'Jammu Hindus this that ..' Edited August 18, 2024 by randomGuy
vvvslaxman Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) 17 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Now watch @vvvslaxman defend his 'adopted country'. Mention Rahul Gandhi's silence on Bangladeshi Hindus and watch @Lone Wolf bull$hit the thread with 'Jammu Hindus this that ..' Woman was raped by rapists. What does it matter if she is Hindu or not. This is the kind of propaganda i despise. Attaching religion conveniently to even.t Are you saying Hindus don't rape at all? or people from other religion don't get raped? Why is it important she is a Hindu? This is called exploitative politics. Identity politics. It only further creates more division. Edited August 18, 2024 by vvvslaxman
Lone Wolf Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 @randomGuy that's why Laser eyed Jaishankar and sasta James bond should have been fired asap. They didn't anticipate any of it & were sitting doing nothing. Already a disastrous tenure. But Vishwaguru lacks competent ministers and we have to endure mediocrity. Time has come to make young Congressi import Jaiveer Shergill (currently in UN Ig) as next EAM and conflict of interest fellows to be replaced.
Lone Wolf Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Woman was raped by rapists. What does it matter if she is Hindu or not. This is the kind of propaganda i despise. Attaching religion conveniently to even.t Are you saying Hindus don't rape at all? or people from other religion don't get raped? Why is it important she is a Hindu? This is called exploitative politics. Identity politics. It only further creates more division. Has to do with religion obviously. This doesn't creates division but attracts attention towards failure of Indian foreign policy. You can't sit idle looking at all this. This is only going to get worse if Hasina or Awamis aren't brought back. Edited August 18, 2024 by Lone Wolf
randomGuy Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Woman was raped by rapists. What does it matter if she is Hindu or not. This is the kind of propaganda i despise. Attaching religion conveniently to even.t Are you saying Hindus don't rape at all? or people from other religion don't get raped? Why is it important she is a Hindu? This is called exploitative politics. Identity politics. It only further creates more division. Wah... changed tune from defending adopted country directly to pretending there is no targetted crime against Hindus after Haseenas ouster. Shameful.
vvvslaxman Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Wah... changed tune from defending adopted country directly to pretending there is no targetted crime against Hindus after Haseenas ouster. Shameful. Yes there is a targeted. But is it India's responsibility to protect Hindus and USA responsibility to protect christians?
randomGuy Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 17 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes there is a targeted. But is it India's responsibility to protect Hindus and USA responsibility to protect christians? 1. Thanks for being honest. 2. If you read up on this particular issue(hasina's own statements, facts and views of many analysts) and deduce from US's past acts, put 2 n 2 together, you will come to the same conclusion that vast majority of people already have, that it is a clear cut regime change operation by Usa. 3. GoI is arguably doing OK (statements about Hindu protection, no overt action) as of now. 'Arguably' because many will say we should attack militarily. 'As of now' because we may have to change tactics shortly.
someone Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 41 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: @randomGuy that's why Laser eyed Jaishankar and sasta James bond should have been fired asap. They didn't anticipate any of it & were sitting doing nothing. Already a disastrous tenure. But Vishwaguru lacks competent ministers and we have to endure mediocrity. Time has come to make young Congressi import Jaiveer Shergill (currently in UN Ig) as next EAM and conflict of interest fellows to be replaced. Again, illogical post. You purposely play both sides, Modi as savior & not. He isn’t going to win on his own. Modi government rightfully established CAA to tackle such realities, and that’s the best solution long term in our hands.
Lone Wolf Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, someone said: Again, illogical post. You purposely play both sides, Modi as savior & not. He isn’t going to win on his own. Modi government rightfully established CAA to tackle such realities, and that’s the best solution long term in our hands. Do read stuff about how both EAM and NSA are in direct conflict of interest when it comes to their families offshore dealings. Indian RW was the first to expose them. Nobody can feed 1 crore BD Hindus and most of Bong Hindus won't come to India leaving their land and businesses and live a life of literal beggars here. Our best bet is to have reinstate a pro India Government in BD. ... Or risk opening third front on our eastern front and say goodbye to our regional ambitions. Also read about 2009 and UPA's proactive measures to stop armed coup in BD and Saving Hasina. Edited August 18, 2024 by Lone Wolf coffee_rules 1
mishra Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: Do read stuff about how both EAM and NSA are in direct conflict of interest when it comes to their families offshore dealings. Nobody can feed 1 crore BD Hindus and most of Bong Hindus won't come to India leaving their land and businesses and live a life of literal beggars here. Our best bet is to have reinstate a pro India Government in BD. ... Or risk opening third front on our eastern front and say goodbye to our regional ambitions. Dont worry, Certainly, No Bangladeshi Hindu will ever ask for even 1 penny from you. Bangladesh is independent country since 1971. We have no control at outcome of their elections.
Lone Wolf Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mishra said: Dont worry, Certainly, No Bangladeshi Hindu will ever ask for even 1 penny from you. Bangladesh is independent country since 1971. We have no control at outcome of their elections. Wow that's extremely defeatist attitude to have especially when elected government was toppled literally through external forces coupled with Fundamentalists at domestic level. Supporting BJ party has blackpilled you guys. Edited August 18, 2024 by Lone Wolf
singhvivek141 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 39 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes there is a targeted. But is it India's responsibility to protect Hindus and USA responsibility to protect christians? TBH...it is if we're calling ourselves the "Vishwaguru". That's why people vote for Modi & BJP. Israel calls itself as homeland of every Jew, India obviously can call itself too as home of every polytheistic religion (or non-monotheistic religion).
singhvivek141 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Do read stuff about how both EAM and NSA are in direct conflict of interest when it comes to their families offshore dealings. Indian RW was the first to expose them. Nobody can feed 1 crore BD Hindus and most of Bong Hindus won't come to India leaving their land and businesses and live a life of literal beggars here. Our best bet is to have reinstate a pro India Government in BD. ... Or risk opening third front on our eastern front and say goodbye to our regional ambitions. Also read about 2009 and UPA's proactive measures to stop armed coup in BD and Saving Hasina. We're not gonna get a pro-India govt in BD...let's just forget about it. Also, I think this is one platform where India & China can actually come to the table and agree to it. No one wants US influence here, neither India nor does China. Another option diplomatically, is to negotiate with Bangladesh and create a "Kashmir" in Bangladesh..near the Chicken neck corridor and move all the Hindus there. Lone Wolf 1
Lone Wolf Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 Btw Kanglus depend a lot on us.. They even depend on us for power supply. If Dhando guys are worried about Trade and being largest south Asian trading partner then obviously it is futile to talk about BD Hindus. MD Yunus can be brought to his knees by pressure tactics if we are willing to... But then again laser eyes needs to do his job first. singhvivek141 1
vvvslaxman Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 7 minutes ago, randomGuy said: 1. Thanks for being honest. 2. If you read up on this particular issue(hasina's own statements, facts and views of many analysts) and deduce from US's past acts, put 2 n 2 together, you will come to the same conclusion that vast majority of people already have, that it is a clear cut regime change operation by Usa. 3. GoI is arguably doing OK (statements about Hindu protection, no overt action) as of now. 'Arguably' because many will say we should attack militarily. 'As of now' because we may have to change tactics shortly. 2 is largely a conspiracy theory at this point. The day USA scures the military base in Bangladesh under this "current interim regime" we can connect the dots. USA has lost most of their bases in Asia except some old bases.
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