Revisiting Australia-India 2021

[goose]

i have just watched extended highlights of all 4 tests in the famous series we won 2-1 (easily found on youtube)

 

two things struck me straight away. first, how on earth can we even think of travelling there aagain in a few months without pujara?

 

second, Ashwin took a lot of wickets and was our spinner and Jadeja played as batsman giving us 5 excellent bowling options - a formula we should stick to

 

[Lone Wolf]

Pujara was right at the fag end of his usefulness during 2021.

It's a shame we carried him upto WTC F 2023.  Dude was literally averaging in mid 20's for like 3.5 years.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pujara was right at the fag end of his usefulness during 2021.

It's a shame we carried him upto WTC F 2023.  Dude was literally averaging in mid 20's for like 3.5 years.

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/32540.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=8;orderby=default;spanmin1=01+Jun+2019;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

Averaged 26.6 with the bat after his 193 at Sydney 2019(minus BD and AFG)

 

What is notable though is that in 2020-21 BD, he averaged only about 34 but he batted for 928 balls while striking at 29. 

 

He really wore them down for long periods. 

[goose]

pujara faced a LOT of balls forget the runs he scored

[R!TTER]

Test cricket works two ways - either you tire the oppositon (bowlers) out or you outbat/score them.

[goose]

puajara innings in that series:

 

43 from 160 balls

0 from 8

17 from 70

3 from 4

50 from 176

77 from 205

25 from 94

56 from 211

 

these are monster stats

[R!TTER]

There's a few things going in our favor for the tour which should help us more than even last time, don't wanna jinx it so will point it out as the series progresses. Hopefully our stupid TM follows the board & my expert analysis 

[Lord]

1 hour ago, R!TTER said:

There's a few things going in our favor for the tour which should help us more than even last time, don't wanna jinx it so will point it out as the series progresses. Hopefully our stupid TM follows the board & my expert analysis 

 

You can point out now. They aren't reading ICF sadly

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/32540.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=8;orderby=default;spanmin1=01+Jun+2019;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

Averaged 26.6 with the bat after his 193 at Sydney 2019(minus BD and AFG)

 

What is notable though is that in 2020-21 BD, he averaged only about 34 but he batted for 928 balls while striking at 29. 

 

He really wore them down for long periods. 

 

Such approach only works if you are able to make it up later. Otherwise tuk tuk only puts pressure on the other batsman,making things look tougher than they are.

[Nikhil_cric]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

Such approach only works if you are able to make it up later. Otherwise tuk tuk only puts pressure on the other batsman,making things look tougher than they are.

Not in Test cricket. He wore the quicks down to such an extent that by Gabba 2nd innings, the lower order could smack them for fun. 

 

Having said that, we don't have anyone who can do that now 

[Lord]

Just now, Nikhil_cric said:

Not in Test cricket. He wore the quicks down to such an extent that by Gabba 2nd innings, the lower order could smack them for fun. 

 

Having said that, we don't have anyone who can do that now 

 

even Gill was smacking them though without this 'help'. Only Pujara was using more body than bat in that innings.

[Nikhil_cric]

3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

even Gill was smacking them though without this 'help'. Only Pujara was using more body than bat in that innings.

Yes but it did work for Pujara. He was sending Hazlewood and Cummins into the red zone(workload wise) by making them bowl over and over again. 

 

Starc and Lyon were being taken apart at the other end. 

 

 

 

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yes but it did work for Pujara. He was sending Hazlewood and Cummins into the red zone(workload wise) by making them bowl over and over again. 

 

Starc and Lyon were being taken apart at the other end. 

 

 

 

 

Its a high risk approach though more suited in swing conditions to play out a spell or session.

 

I think we'll be fine without this if pitches play like last time except Adelaide

[Norman]

I have a gut feeling (and my gut usually is accurate) that we are going to get destroyed this series. 4-0 or even worse 5-0 if Sydney is sunny for once. Except Bumrah, I don't have trust in any of these guys. Yes even Jaiswal..

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Norman said:

I have a gut feeling (and my gut usually is accurate) that we are going to get destroyed this series. 4-0 or even worse 5-0 if Sydney is sunny for once. Except Bumrah, I don't have trust in any of these guys. Yes even Jaiswal..

INjry saved us last time. If India had played full strength side we would have been destroyed. They were not familiar with many of our players like Sundar. Heck even we didn't know Sundar was that good a batsman. He was just 21.

[Lord]

20 minutes ago, Norman said:

I have a gut feeling (and my gut usually is accurate) that we are going to get destroyed this series. 4-0 or even worse 5-0 if Sydney is sunny for once. Except Bumrah, I don't have trust in any of these guys. Yes even Jaiswal..

 

Pant will do well. Gill can do well if start is decent. Ashwin-Jaddu will as usual provide lower order support. 

 

Dunno if Shami will be back. Akash looks decent at best.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Such approach only works if you are able to make it up later. Otherwise tuk tuk only puts pressure on the other batsman,making things look tougher than they are.

No. If you wear the main bowlers out, it becomes easier for other batsmen. It's not LOIs. That's how test cricket has been played over the years. There is no pressure of scoring quickly.

[Lord]

10 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

No. If you wear the main bowlers out, it becomes easier for other batsmen. It's not LOIs. That's how test cricket has been played over the years. There is no pressure of scoring quickly.

 

No it isn't. All great batsmen used to bat at fair clip. Even Dravid or Kallis rarely batted at under 30 SR

[Nikhil_cric]

25 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

No it isn't. All great batsmen used to bat at fair clip. Even Dravid or Kallis rarely batted at under 30 SR

Pujara is an extreme example but the theory holds. 

 

You can afford one guy to drop anchor and just bury the bowlers. 

 

What Pujara did was also quite unusual in that he tempted the Aussies into bending their backs and targeting his body. 

 

It took a lot of sting out of Cummins/Hazlewood and also took LBW and bowled out of the equation .  Puji didn't take it on either and so basically he made them hit the pitch consistently with minimal chance if a wicket. 

 

It was ugly to watch but ridiculously effective with 2nd order effects favouring the rest of our lineup. 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

I think Pujara's tactics are flawed considering how lively Aussie decks have been off late.

You cannot survive for long anyway.

 

 

There is a reason he fails in England and SA too.  Where Survival skills don't work & his technique was always questionable against moving balls.

 

You have to put half volleys away these days any chance you get & dominate spin & look to go down the ground or use the crease & employ sweep.

 

That being said I am certain we won't miss much of him in Australia.  He was washed up & sooner we accept that the better.

Shouldn't have played WTC final too along with Rahane.