Ind A vs Aus A

[saransh]

Gutkesh now has 2 wickets 

[vishalvirsingh]

its a hard BOUNCY Pitch , prasidh ball bounced so high that IShan had to Jump high to catch it..could be 6.5 ft.

he is bowling faster than Mukesh Kumar. even mukesh is bowling short- kuldeep sen would have been deadly here. 

Prasidh is not trying his fastest..bowling kind of little short of good length ( mid length balls not exactlly short balls but mid length balls).

 Prasidh was edged and a catch dropped at 4th slip by baba indrajith

Edited October 31 by vishalvirsingh

[vishalvirsingh]

commentator saying he has looked as the PICK of INDIAN bowlers....( about prasidh)

Prasidh will be in 11 in the test team in australia

[vishalvirsingh]

Nitish has started bowling...lets see. bowled a yorker....they are not showing speeds..( why)

 

Edited October 31 by vishalvirsingh

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

its a hard BOUNCY Pitch , prasidh ball bounced so high that IShan had to Jump high to catch it..could be 6.5 ft.

he is bowling faster than Mukesh Kumar. even mukesh is bowling short- kuldeep sen would have been deadly here. 

Prasidh is not trying his fastest..bowling kind of little short of good length ( mid length balls not exactlly short balls but mid length balls).

 Prasidh was edged and a catch dropped at 4th slip by baba indrajith

Interesting. Saini could not cut it even on this wicket .

 

Should be discarded from all future plans. A tours are a waste if we keep selecting these guys. 

 

Should not even be in reserves

[Nikhil_cric]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Everytime Prasidh goes full he becomes floaty... Perennial probelm with him

Spot on.  He is extremely floaty even while bowling good length.

 

At least from his ODI data.

 

Which is probably why he struggled in South Africa. 

 

He is effective when bowling hard back of length in ODIs. Or at least was. 

 

Basically, someone who can potentially come in the middle overs and try and replicate Liam Plunkett. 

[vishalvirsingh]

17 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Interesting. Saini could not cut it even on this wicket .

 

Should be discarded from all future plans. A tours are a waste if we keep selecting these guys. 

 

Should not even be in reserves

he has bowled 7 overs till now and though you are right he has disappointed but lets see him for another few overs tommorow. he did bowl very few jaffa's- looked faster than MUkesh.

My 2 cents of few overs i saw of the 3 pacers-

Mukesh was pretty nice on his line n length bowling and his pace was definitely not more than 135k -may be 125 to 135k ( i am guessing all this as no speed was shown). kind of difference in his approach that i noticed was he was bowling bouncers - 1 bouncer or a short of length ball once a over. when he had to bowl a a bouncer he was bowling the ball short and that gave enough time for the batsman either to duck or to play it- so a bouncer bowled by mukesh is a WASTE of energy.

 

Prasidh was getting bounce from mid of the pitch and batsman had little time to decide and hence they were ducking , not defending his short of length balls and as we all had said Prasidh gets a lot of bounce and yes he was getting very good bounce on a bouncy track ( which was not so green but had small layer of grass for sure). i think prasidh may have bowled from 130 to 139k ...i am sure eh did not touch 140k 

 

saini was also slow and trying to maintain lin and length and trying to inswing the ball and may have bowled 129 to 137k..was disappointing as when ever he brough his pace up , his line n length were not that great but yes it seemed he will become faster and get better.

 

conclusion - with akashdeep in the MIX, Mukesh is a waste even in reserves. As akash is a similiar line n length but faster version of Mukesh kumar. 

saini and khaleel are the other 2 travelling reserves - i still have some hope from saini.

Prasidh took just 2 wickets but catches were dropped off his bowling.

nitish reddy was solw and average in 1 over that i saw yes he was economical.

 

my 4 pacers in first test would be Prasidh,akash,boom and Siraj.Jaddu wont be successfull on australian pitches as they dont spin at all. Manav suthar who is a very good spinner got no wickets and was not turning the ball at all and with that I can easily judge that JADDU as a bowler wont succeed at all.

 

washington who is a 95 to 105k spinner could be a better bet than jaddu. 

if they want 3 pacers thay can play boom,prasidh, akash Or Siraj and washington. who ever is bowling better among akashdeep or siraj should play. 

washington bowls spin at 105 to 110 k  too and i think he may be a better bet as he seems in his life time bowling form too.

nitish is no hardik so he cannot be a 4th Pacer in a 4 bowler attack.

i may play 3 pacers and washie in my line up as 3 pacers would be stretched but our 4th sspinner also bowls upto 110k. we may need to pump up our batting in the first test at least

 

 

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

 

 

my 4 pacers in first test would be Prasidh,akash,boom and Siraj.

 

 

 

Why not Harshit  ?

 

He can bat at 8 and lend balance to the team .. is the fastest and tallest of the lot plus very bouncy .. and is in great bowling form picking 15 wickets from his last 3 FC matches at a low average. 

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

 

 

 

my 4 pacers in first test would be Prasidh,akash,boom and Siraj.Jaddu wont be successfull on australian pitches as they dont spin at all. Manav suthar who is a very good spinner got no wickets and was not turning the ball at all and with that I can easily judge that JADDU as a bowler wont succeed at all.

 

washington who is a 95 to 105k spinner could be a better bet than jaddu. 

if they want 3 pacers thay can play boom,prasidh, akash Or Siraj and washington. who ever is bowling better among akashdeep or siraj should play. 

washington bowls spin at 105 to 110 k  too and i think he may be a better bet as he seems in his life time bowling form too.

nitish is no hardik so he cannot be a 4th Pacer in a 4 bowler attack.

i may play 3 pacers and washie in my line up as 3 pacers would be stretched but our 4th sspinner also bowls upto 110k. we may need to pump up our batting in the first test at least

 

 

 

 

My preferred bowlers for Perth test

 

7. Washington 

8. Harshit .. can bat

9. Akashdeep .. can bat

10. Bumrah 

11. Siraj / Prasidh 

 

Harshit and Akashdeep together can provide batting depth and also provide a solid 4 man pace attack. 

[jigjig]

107 is massive improvement over 36

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Spot on.  He is extremely floaty even while bowling good length.

 

At least from his ODI data.

 

Which is probably why he struggled in South Africa. 

 

He is effective when bowling hard back of length in ODIs. Or at least was. 

 

Basically, someone who can potentially come in the middle overs and try and replicate Liam Plunkett. 

Plunkett was more well rounded than Prasidh.  

If he only becomes a back of length hit the deck operator then he will become predictable.

He needs to draw inspiration from someone like Hazelwood who is specialist when it comes to HTD stuff & also never gets floaty when being full.

Maybe more effort and snap of the wrist can do 

[Lone Wolf]

Nitish bowled tightly off stump line.  Obviously a support bowler.

Will see how he bats in second dig.

 

Conditions were not easy on a fresh pitch with grass and carry.

 

[Lord]

27 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Plunkett was more well rounded than Prasidh.  

If he only becomes a back of length hit the deck operator then he will become predictable.

He needs to draw inspiration from someone like Hazelwood who is specialist when it comes to HTD stuff & also never gets floaty when being full.

Maybe more effort and snap of the wrist can do 

 

Ishant also had this problem. It comes from weak shoulders. They need to bulk up to bang the ball on full length

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Plunkett was more well rounded than Prasidh.  

If he only becomes a back of length hit the deck operator then he will become predictable.

He needs to draw inspiration from someone like Hazelwood who is specialist when it comes to HTD stuff & also never gets floaty when being full.

Maybe more effort and snap of the wrist can do 

Hazlewood barely bowls full. In fact in the last World Cup SF, he bowled every delivery of his shorter than 6m. 

 

Plunkett was not that well rounded a bowler.  As late as 2018, he was considered to be surplus to requirements in the English setup and only survived by becoming exclusively a back of a length middle overs bowler.

 

Not saying Prasidh can do that as well. But that middle overs enforcer role is the only thing he can probably do in cricket. 

 

His pitch map on ODI debut showed very good control of line and a high percentage  deliveries that were 7m or shorter.

 

 

 

 

 

[CoverDrive]

Would love to see Harshit and Khaleel also play. Khaleel was consistently at decent speeds 

 

between Mukesh and PRasidh we would have an ideal bowler lol. Test bowlers need to land consistently for long periods with movement and pace to cause trouble. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Ishant also had this problem. It comes from weak shoulders. They need to bulk up to bang the ball on full length

Interesting but looking at some of Ishant's 2008 videos he isn't that much floaty.   Effort was always there.  This was when he was literally a teenager.

Prasidh has such a questionable attitude towards fast bowling in general.   Lacks fast bowling mindset.

Edited October 31 by Lone Wolf

[Need4Speed]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

My preferred bowlers for Perth test

 

7. Washington 

8. Harshit .. can bat

9. Akashdeep .. can bat

10. Bumrah 

11. Siraj / Prasidh 

 

Harshit and Akashdeep together can provide batting depth and also provide a solid 4 man pace attack. 

Kuch bhi krlo..fuddu TM is gonna prefer Jadeja over Sundar..stupid eggsperience

[Lone Wolf]

16 minutes ago, Need4Speed said:

Kuch bhi krlo..fuddu TM is gonna prefer Jadeja over Sundar..stupid eggsperience

Perth demands a spinner who has the skill of overspin. Neither Ashwin or Jadeja have that.   Side spin merchants.

Sundar can but TM is too thick to understand this.

All hail eggsperience 

[vvvslaxman]

So our low ceiling bowler Mukesh continues getting chances as he picks up a couple of wickets here and there.

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Ishant also had this problem. It comes from weak shoulders. They need to bulk up to bang the ball on full length

Ishant has a better arm speed. That is why he was cranking up at 145k even as a 20 year old. Also his run up and loading is less injury prone. Also release was ideal for inswingers.