India should play 5 pacers for rest of the series

[Ultimate_Game]

8 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Then just ask him to stay at the wicket—do a pujara and take body blows and takle blows on your b**** unless you want to make more kids, of course  

 

He doesn't have the technique, skills and mental fortitude for doing that. He was planning to do so and that's why he was batting so far outside his crease, and ended up looking like a tailender.

 

Kohli doesn't have any scoring option anymore. He can't play cut shot. His reflexes are gone so can't pull the ball either. He doesn't know how to play sweep shot either. His only shot is drive and that's what he was trying to do by falling over and trying to drive the ball to the leg side. Aussies know that too and won't give him any scoring option. The best he can hope for is a 90 ball 15. That's his ceiling.

 

That's why better get an additional pacer and end this panauti's chapter. We won't win otherwise.

[saransh]

14 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

The problem is that Travis Head, Smith and Labuschage will fire at some time and will put up a score. But likes of Kohli won't. So may as well bolster our pace bowling further and make it even more difficult for Aussie batsmen and minimize the chance that they fire. Our only hope is our fast bowling so may as well back them fully.

 

I've no hope from our batting so may as well live and die by the sword - our pace bowling.

Yeah not backing Kohli by any means, but we infact need to strengthen our batting more. More runs will mean less pressure on bowlers which will enable them to manage their intensity instead of going all out every ball

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, saransh said:

Yeah not backing Kohli by any means, but we infact need to strengthen our batting more. More runs will mean less pressure on bowlers which will enable them to manage their intensity instead of going all out every ball

 

With Rohit coming in we'll actually have a weaker batting lineup with 2 walking wkts in top 4. That's why may as well go all in on pace bowling and do away with the batting. The actual runs will be scored by lower order and Pant anyway so may as well get one more pacer to limit the opponent's score even more.

[Majestic]

This is a long series. Pacers need to be rested too. Can’t play same team in all tests.

[Norman]

Fukking prick Pandya would have added so much value to the Test side in Australia and South Africam conditions with his ability to extract bounce but the dumbasses in our TM can't have a serious talk with him to ask him return to red ball cricket. 

 

Jadeja and pandya at 7 and 8 would have been a perfect combo and we would have probably won the 2021 series in South Africa.

[R!TTER]

But you have to be realistic; BRat is not going away with RGS in the team! So what are our next best options? I'd argue if the two of them can match or exceed the number of balls played by Pajara in the 2018/19 series, we probably scrape away with the series -

CA Pujara (IND)

2018-2019

4

7

-

521

193

74.42

1258

41.41

3

1

1

50

2

 

So roughly 70-90 balls each innings (on AVG) for them individually & at least 200-250 runs (each) across 5 tests. I know that's probably too much to ask of these *ers right now, but you have to have some plans here.

Edited November 22, 2024 by R!TTER

[express bowling]

19 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

We've a great chance this series as this is probably Bumrah's last Aus tour.

 

Bumrah will be only 33 / 34 during our next Aus tour.

[Teengunalagaan]

If the conditions are flat, would you play 8 batters and 3 bowlers ? You should rather play 5 and have an extra bowler, than why would would you need an extra bowler and not batsman in helpful conditions ? In fact there are more chances in these conditions to lose the match if we collapse, that's where you need some depth in the batting, 3+1 should be more than enough to do the job in these conditions, if you want give some rest to the fast bowlers, that's where Nitish and Spinners would come into play, you don't expect to bowl for 120-150 overs in these conditions, and if you have to, well than you have bigger problems than worrying about an extra quick.

 

And besides not all pitches are going to be like this, Adelaide will depend lot on who gets the better conditions, any team batting under twilight is at risk of a collapse, Gabba isn't as fast as it used to be, only MCG would be somewhat similar to Perth.

[R!TTER]

The difference is that pitches in Oz, NZ, Eng, or SA can get better to bat on, especially Oz. Unlike India, batting first is not an advantage (90% of the time), and you can have issues bowling a team out if you don't have enough (good) bowlers.

[rkt.india]

On bowling friendly pitches, batting needs cushion. Bowlers aren't going to bowl a lot of overs. We need a better 4th pacer first who can be relied upon.

[kosingh]

Now watch India lose 7 wickets to Nathan Lyon in the 2nd innings 

[rkt.india]

25 minutes ago, Teengunalagaan said:

If the conditions are flat, would you play 8 batters and 3 bowlers ? You should rather play 5 and have an extra bowler, than why would would you need an extra bowler and not batsman in helpful conditions ? In fact there are more chances in these conditions to lose the match if we collapse, that's where you need some depth in the batting, 3+1 should be more than enough to do the job in these conditions, if you want give some rest to the fast bowlers, that's where Nitish and Spinners would come into play, you don't expect to bowl for 120-150 overs in these conditions, and if you have to, well than you have bigger problems than worrying about an extra quick.

 

And besides not all pitches are going to be like this, Adelaide will depend lot on who gets the better conditions, any team batting under twilight is at risk of a collapse, Gabba isn't as fast as it used to be, only MCG would be somewhat similar to Perth.

Gabba was deadly when Australia played south Africa not long ago. Adelaide will be grassy too.

[deathmonger]

Naah, structure of lineup is good even though personnel may not be.

 

Another pacer shortens the lineup. If it was another pacer allrounder, then maybe in place of Washi.

 

Rotate between Siraj/Akash and Shami can come in for Bumrah when he takes a rest in 3rd or 4th test.

 

Thing is that this is quite a flawed team with a bunch of guys aging out and another bunch too young. Good thing is Australia is also aging.

 

 

[Ultimate_Game]

44 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Bumrah will be only 33 / 34 during our next Aus tour.

 

Don't know man. Don't think his body will be able to take that much load. He's in his prime right now and better to give him the best chance to win another series in Aus by removing deadwoods like Kohli.

[tweaker]

We don't need 5 pacer we need pacer who  are in form.

 

Akashdeep in place of Siraj would have made a huge difference. 

 

Even Bumrah preferred debutant Harshit  over " experienced " Siraj.

[express bowling]

1. Jaiswal

2. Rahul

3. Gill

4. Pant

5. Jurel

6. Jadeja

7. Nitish

8. Harshit .  can bat

9. Akashdeep .. can bat 

10. Bumrah

11. Shami / Prasidh before he arrives 

 

[deepdynamo]

For the day night test ( + spicy pitch) and considering Rohit & Gill back ( and undroppable), I will play the following team:

Rahul

Jaiswal
Gill
Kohli
Rohit

Pant
Jurel
Akashdeep
Harshit
Bumrah
Siraj

 

No spinners and No Nitish Reddy in Adelaide Day Night green mamba.
 

[lemsip]

3 hours ago, deepdynamo said:

No spinners and No Nitish Reddy in Adelaide Day Night green mamba.

I would pick Reddy ahead of Siraj. he bowled well enough to keep runs in check and top scored on a tough pitch. Akashdeep, Bumrah, Harshit and Reddy would be a good fast bowling combo if the pitch has assistance. Also depending on the pitch, a spinner may be needed in which case Sundar can replace Reddy. Siraj is the least threatening and needs to sit out regardless of any other picks.

Edited November 23, 2024 by lemsip

[BacktoCricaddict]

On 11/22/2024 at 8:04 AM, Ultimate_Game said:

Agarkar is useless. Hopefully Rohit has a word with him and asks him to feign an injury

 

Next time he puts one down in the slips (which can't be too far into the future), he can shake his hand vigorously, grimace hard, scream "MC BC" multiple times until the physio comes charging in, and then they can both charge back to the pavilion, after which VK will only be seen behind a glass enclosure cheering on his teammates for the rest of the series.

[BacktoCricaddict]

On 11/22/2024 at 9:34 AM, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Don't know man. Don't think his body will be able to take that much load. He's in his prime right now and better to give him the best chance to win another series in Aus by removing deadwoods like Kohli.

Bhai log, this series has barely started and you are talking about the next one :-)!!!!