List of cricketers getting into tests using LOI/T20 success

[The Dark Horse]

Especially batsmen. Some exceptions might be there but this is a big list.

 

Yuvraj

Raina

Rohit

Dhoni (he's ok to an extent)

Padikkal?

Nitish Reddy (he's doing well though)

 

Feel free to add. Some of these were given captaincy. The sufferers due to them are players like

 

Badrinath

Pujara

Vihari

 

These guys should have been given a longer run. Rahane was also starting to do well but was dropped.

 

[Lord]

SKY

Iyer

[Sean Bradley]

Rohit Sharma

[tweaker]

Nitish Reddy 

Harshit Rana

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, tweaker said:

Nitish Reddy 

Harshit Rana

 

Harshit Rana averaged 24 with the ball in FC before test debut.  Picked 4 wickets per match.

 

Picked two 4-fers in red ball Duleep Trophy and a 5-fer in Ranji just before test debut. 

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, The Dark Horse said:

Especially batsmen. Some exceptions might be there but this is a big list.

 

Yuvraj

Raina

Rohit

Dhoni (he's ok to an extent)

Padikkal?

Nitish Reddy (he's doing well though)

 

Feel free to add. Some of these were given captaincy. The sufferers due to them are players like

 

Badrinath

Pujara

Vihari

 

These guys should have been given a longer run. Rahane was also starting to do well but was dropped.

 

 

Dhoni doesn't deserve to be on that list. He deservedly got into the team based on his domestic performances. He was hands down the best wk-batsman in domestic cricket at the time, and was a huge upgrade on the likes of Ajay Ratra, Deep Dasgupta, Vijay Dahiya etc.

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Dhoni doesn't deserve to be on that list. He deservedly got into the team based on his domestic performances. He was hands down the best wk-batsman in domestic cricket at the time, and was a huge upgrade on the likes of Ajay Ratra, Deep Dasgupta, Vijay Dahiya etc.

 

No. He was a poor keeper and came in based on ODI exploits. No T20s then

 

Karthik at that point was rated as keeper and played good innings v Pak. 

 

Ofcourse Dhoni never looked back once he debuted.

[vvvslaxman]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

SKY

Iyer

Don't think Iyer ever did well in the IPL lol I think his domestic stats were impressive. Averaging 50 at a strike rate of 80. If he had fixed his bouncer problem he could have been handy. But once again he is not going to play like Pujara. So will always be a high risk option.

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Dhoni doesn't deserve to be on that list. He deservedly got into the team based on his domestic performances. He was hands down the best wk-batsman in domestic cricket at the time, and was a huge upgrade on the likes of Ajay Ratra, Deep Dasgupta, Vijay Dahiya etc.

In terms of secure game Parthiv patel was better than both. He had this backfoot game that can annoy bowlers even overseas. You will have to bowl really full almost half volley length to make it a good length. May be his height. He could play even some of the good length balls off the backfoot comfortably.

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Don't think Iyer ever did well in the IPL lol I think his domestic stats were impressive. Averaging 50 at a strike rate of 80. If he had fixed his bouncer problem he could have been handy. But once again he is not going to play like Pujara. So will always be a high risk option.

 

He did well in ODIs and T20Is

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

He did well in ODIs and T20Is

He has a decent game. But because of this problem he gets stuck on the backfoot expecting a bouncer every ball which makes his frontfoot game even more vulnerable. His simple solution should have been learning to leave those balls. instead he practice hours and hours trying to play shots against such balls. It only compounded the problem. But hey he doesn't have to care anymore. Now a millionaire.

[Ultimate_Game]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In terms of secure game Parthiv patel was better than both. He had this backfoot game that can annoy bowlers even overseas. You will have to bowl really full almost half volley length to make it a good length. May be his height. He could play even some of the good length balls off the backfoot comfortably.

 

Parthiv Patel got his chances and was in the team ahead of Dhoni and failed spectacularly. He was the reason why we couldn't win the SCG Test in 2004 coz of his poor keeping and multiple dropped chances. He was such a poor wkt keeper and not that great a batsman as well.

[Ultimate_Game]

8 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

No. He was a poor keeper and came in based on ODI exploits. No T20s then

 

Karthik at that point was rated as keeper and played good innings v Pak. 

 

Ofcourse Dhoni never looked back once he debuted.

 

Nope. Dhoni did well in longer formats in domestic 4 day cricket. And his keeping was pretty decent. We had given chances to Parthiv Patel and he costed us the SCG Test in 2004. Dhoni was a pretty safe keeper and a much better batter.

[maniac]

Patidar, Padikkal, SKY have played test cricket for India   Next will be Samson, Rinku on T20 .

[singhvivek141]

3 minutes ago, maniac said:

Patidar, Padikkal, SKY have played test cricket for India   Next will be Samson, Rinku on T20 .

What names you suggest ?

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Parthiv Patel got his chances and was in the team ahead of Dhoni and failed spectacularly. He was the reason why we couldn't win the SCG Test in 2004 coz of his poor keeping and multiple dropped chances. He was such a poor wkt keeper and not that great a batsman as well.

yes. In his short career his drops were estimated to be 685 runs or something.

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

What names you suggest ?

Sarfaraz, Jurel, Easwaran should all have played tests before them. Or their slot should have gone to some youngster in Jaiswal mould for future. We wasted on journeymen. Except Jurel even Sarfaraz and Easwaran are journeymen but they earned it more than Patidar, Paddikal and SKY

[vvvslaxman]

I think India has to decide what type of players they want in Tests. Even before this series we did talk about this. This has to be the flashiest top order in a while

 

Jaiswal - stroke player

Gill - stroke player

Rohit - desperate stroke player these days

Kohli - stroke player

Pant - stroke player

 

They can all be on suicide  mission on the same day. India lacks that guy who can arrest the slide. KL Rahul who is otherwise had an useless career suddenly looked better because of the unreliable game of other guys. So India has to insert someone who can spend time at the crease even if he doesn't have great FC numbers or doesn't have range of shots. Someone who is boring.

 

We did drop Dhawan permanently for his flashy approach that led him to trouble. Murali Vijay put on a clinic by leaving over 1000 balls outside the off stump with great discipline during short peak of his career. That template is missing in this line up.

Edited December 16, 2024 by vvvslaxman

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

Sarfaraz, Jurel, Easwaran should all have played tests before them. Or their slot should have gone to some youngster in Jaiswal mould for future. We wasted on journeymen. Except Jurel even Sarfaraz and Easwaran are journeymen but they earned it more than Patidar, Paddikal and SKY

Jhurel is a good call. There was a brief passage of play against England where England bombarded him with bouncers. He  did not get sucked into it even once.  He handled that passage brilliantly. That showed his temperament and maturity. 

[singhvivek141]

Just now, maniac said:

Sarfaraz, Jurel, Easwaran should all have played tests before them. Or their slot should have gone to some youngster in Jaiswal mould for future. We wasted on journeymen. Except Jurel even Sarfaraz and Easwaran are journeymen but they earned it more than Patidar, Paddikal and SKY

Easwaran too was found out vs short ball. He was a sitting duck in all the games in Australia, I like him as a guy but he didn't help his cause.

 

Our options are limited, Sarfaraz always have a big question mark on his ability to play pace and bounce. Jurel is solid but we need more names.