Pakistan tri series.

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, First class said:

Any team which plays against Pakistan is a B or C team. 

That is true. SA sends 6 uncapped players for the tri series.  4 of them have not played any internationals. 2 of them played T20Is or Tests.

[tapandrun]

Per Icc rule out side ICC events only asia cup can have more than 3 teams participating in the tournament.

 

Tri series are nt eco. viable, ppl just say it will make series intesting but hardly any1 watches when 2 visiting teams play each other and if the home team can not make it to the finals, then finals also become lacklustre. 

 

This is even true fr icc events when home team is nt playing there is no audiences in the ground there is no1 watching on tv or app.

 

With bilateral series almost all the matches are houseful, ppl are interested to watch it on tv and apps, even ppl come to dead rubbers. Its eco. more viable.

A tri series has to be atleast 8 match series where each team plays other team twice then only it makes sense, play only once against each team cutting the series down to 4 matches makes no sense.And there are other reasons too why tri series lost it popularity amongst the boards and boardcasters logestics and some other issues

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

28 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Per Icc rule out side ICC events only asia cup can have more than 3 teams participating in the tournament.

 

Tri series are nt eco. viable, ppl just say it will make series intesting but hardly any1 watches when 2 visiting teams play each other and if the home team can not make it to the finals, then finals also become lacklustre. 

 

This is even true fr icc events when home team is nt playing there is no audiences in the ground there is no1 watching on tv or app.

 

With bilateral series almost all the matches are houseful, ppl are interested to watch it on tv and apps, even ppl come to dead rubbers. Its eco. more viable.

A tri series has to be atleast 8 match series where each team plays other team twice then only it makes sense, play only once against each team cutting the series down to 4 matches makes no sense.And there are other reasons too why tri series lost it popularity amongst the boards and boardcasters logestics and some other issues

 

 

Bizzarre series. It is almost like tour game for visitors. 

[Lord]

37 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Per Icc rule out side ICC events only asia cup can have more than 3 teams participating in the tournament.

 

Tri series are nt eco. viable, ppl just say it will make series intesting but hardly any1 watches when 2 visiting teams play each other and if the home team can not make it to the finals, then finals also become lacklustre. 

 

This is even true fr icc events when home team is nt playing there is no audiences in the ground there is no1 watching on tv or app.

 

With bilateral series almost all the matches are houseful, ppl are interested to watch it on tv and apps, even ppl come to dead rubbers. Its eco. more viable.

A tri series has to be atleast 8 match series where each team plays other team twice then only it makes sense, play only once against each team cutting the series down to 4 matches makes no sense.And there are other reasons too why tri series lost it popularity amongst the boards and boardcasters logestics and some other issues

 

 

 

not true, no one remembers bilateral series. They are just used to try out players.

 

Tri series in the past were memorable, whether its Natwest, CB series or Sharjah cup.

[Ultimate_Game]

25 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

not true, no one remembers bilateral series. They are just used to try out players.

 

Tri series in the past were memorable, whether its Natwest, CB series or Sharjah cup.

 

They were memorable coz we only had one ICC tourney every 4 years - World Cup. Now we've WT20 every other year, ODI WC, Test Championship, CT, and IPL. With so many tourneys, tri-series would be treated the same as bilaterals these days. But in the past they held some value as teams played their first XI. Not the case anymore where your top team doesn't play other than the ICC tourneys.

[tapandrun]

46 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

not true, no one remembers bilateral series. They are just used to try out players.

 

Tri series in the past were memorable, whether its Natwest, CB series or Sharjah cup.

this is from broadcaster, sponsor and event organiser point of view 

 

These are rememberable to supporters of the winning team, you are talking abt venues who have good amt of ppl from subcontinet so they go and watch talk abt non subcontinent teams in neutral venue.

There was ier vs sa series in uae no1 came to watch, how many neutral side matches were houseful in Wc-2023, how many neutral side match was houseful in wc2022 and wc25.

 

Ppl just quote 1-2 series here there, but largely there are not many takers for neutral games 

 

icc didnt make much from t20i wc even when ind won the cup, the timings were set so that matches can be broad casted during ind evenings so the t20 wc matches were played as day matches not day and night, not even afternoon. 

 

even domestic final and sf happen under lights. local t20 leagues happen under lights

 

Edited February 7, 2025 by tapandrun

[tapandrun]

44 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Bizzarre series. It is almost like tour game for visitors. 

looks a thought about plan by boards and icc to keep all ct partcipating teams near-by and icc would not ave to bear large cost of staging these teams in uae before they go to pak and for teams its like getting aclimatized in similar conditions.

[Lord]

15 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

These are rememberable to supporters of the winning team, you are talking abt venues who have good amt of ppl from subcontinet so they go and watch talk abt non subcontinent teams in neutral venue.

There was ier vs sa series in uae no1 came to watch, how many neutral side matches were houseful in Wc-2023, how many neutral side match was houseful in wc2022 and wc25.

 

Ppl just quote 1-2 series here there, but largely there are not many takers for neutral games 

 

 

how many bilateral series in comparison can you quote?

[tapandrun]

4 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

how many bilateral series in comparison can you quote?

there are so many bilaterals, ppl donot care to remember them, its been a long time now that teams would send their 65-85% strength teams to these series. so not much to remember about, plus there are so many t20 leagues, its too much cricket.

 

do this to a tri-series no1 will care for those too. teams are getting fed of this every 6 months icc event, most teams stops caring abt it too much.

previously tams will cottonwool their top player before icc events now it does not matter, big names misses the icc events because they had injury before the event

[rageaddict]

Once upon a time, India used to organize Tri-Series with Bangladesh and Kenya and even those matches used to be passionately followed by the fans. I remember watching all the matches ball by ball .

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Coca-Cola_Triangular_Series

 

 

 

Kenya even won a match against India so not completely one sided Tournament.

 

[First class]

11 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

That is true. SA sends 6 uncapped players for the tri series.  4 of them have not played any internationals. 2 of them played T20Is or Tests.

And you typical translation , if Pakistan won , not a big deal they won against C team and if lost , Pak lost against against SA's C team . 

I will talk to SA to get your approval before finalizing their team and no uncapped player. 

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, First class said:

And you typical translation , if Pakistan won , not a big deal they won against C team and if lost , Pak lost against against SA's C team . 

I will talk to SA to get your approval before finalizing their team and no uncapped player. 

 

If INdia won against such a side also i would say the same because that is true

[First class]

2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

If INdia won against such a side also i would say the same because that is true

SA is playing against NZL with this " B" team on Feb 9, but for the 2nd match against Pakistan on Feb 12,  SA will be  playing with their full strength team as the big guns will be joining after playing SA20, 2025 final tomorrow Feb 8. 

[Suhaan]

3 hours ago, First class said:

SA is playing against NZL with this " B" team on Feb 9, but for the 2nd match against Pakistan on Feb 12,  SA will be  playing with their full strength team as the big guns will be joining after playing SA20, 2025 final tomorrow Feb 8. 

Most sides on random times play their alt sides in bilaterals,that is not something uncommon these days

Look at Aus how they are treating even this CT,this will be more common for forthcoming CTs

 

Edited February 8, 2025 by Suhaan

[Gollum]

Love tri-series, quadrangulars etc. That is why I enjoyed Asia Cups in recent years despite the pathetic quality of South Asian cricket. 

[Norman]

7 hours ago, First class said:

And you typical translation , if Pakistan won , not a big deal they won against C team and if lost , Pak lost against against SA's C team . 

I will talk to SA to get your approval before finalizing their team and no uncapped player. 

 

Jeez how sensitive are you?

 

Are you seriously saying that the team South Africa are sending is anywhere close to full strength? It's not even about pakistan...even when they toured New Zealand for Tests last year, they sent a C team because of SA20 and most posters here pointed that out. 

[Lone Wolf]

Abrar strikes Ravindra gone.

 

NZ also playing a Phaaaaaast attack 

[rageaddict]

First Match of the series today between Pakistan and NZ, Jabardast start by Pakistani bowlers already they look unbeatable and Pakistan team looks top contender for the tournament.

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Norman said:

 

Jeez how sensitive are you?

 

Are you seriously saying that the team South Africa are sending is anywhere close to full strength? It's not even about pakistan...even when they toured New Zealand for Tests last year, they sent a C team because of SA20 and most posters here pointed that out. 

Winning ODI series in Aus and SA is a big deal for them.  Even we have won only 2 ODI series in SA till this day.  

 

[Lone Wolf]

1 minute ago, rageaddict said:

First Match of the series today between Pakistan and NZ, Jabardast start by Pakistani bowlers already they look unbeatable and Pakistan team looks top contender for the tournament.

NZ looks most formidable.  Look at that Pace attack.  Good god