Chakdephatte Posted May 2 Posted May 2 People act like he bats like Steve Smith or Rahane. His actual numbers since 2023 are 50/156. That's as good as they come. I know some freak batsmen are going at 170+ strike rate, but it isn't his fault. Every pitch isn't a 300 pitch. And Jaipur and Ahmedabad have been relatively low scoring till last year. His strike rate is three points below Jaiswal, who I believe is a more aggressive batsman. nevada 1
bowl_out Posted May 2 Posted May 2 Yeah, Gill, Shreyas and Jaiswal will be the mainstay and the leadership group of the next decade after Ro-Ko retire
Chakdephatte Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 1 minute ago, Lord said: Even Rahane has been great. Why that example Rahane of old and not the older Rahane Lord 1
Chakdephatte Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 Just now, Lord said: Gill will surely play WT20. Can't see a place tbh. It is just that Abhishek Jaiswal pair is great. Does not mean it is Gill's fault though
Lord Posted May 2 Posted May 2 22 minutes ago, Chakdephatte said: Can't see a place tbh. It is just that Abhishek Jaiswal pair is great. Does not mean it is Gill's fault though Abhishek has been too inconsistent in IPL. I think Gill might nick him based on seniority Ultimate_Game 1
Suhaan Posted May 2 Posted May 2 3 hours ago, Lord said: Abhishek has been too inconsistent in IPL. I think Gill might nick him based on seniority That is enough to derail the T20 side Stan AF, Texan and Ultimate_Game 1 2
vvvslaxman Posted May 2 Posted May 2 3 hours ago, Lord said: Abhishek has been too inconsistent in IPL. I think Gill might nick him based on seniority Dont think they will pay attention to IPL Performance of established players
Suhaan Posted May 2 Posted May 2 22 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Dont think they will pay attention to IPL Performance of established players Thing is batsman like Gill will always be consistent in long stretch of 14-16matches Thing is we should have a totally different,explosive T20 side tapandrun 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 2 Posted May 2 4 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Thing is batsman like Gill will always be consistent in long stretch of 14-16matches Thing is we should have a totally different,explosive T20 side Ball distribution should be efficient. Cannot have scenario one batsman consistently play 50 balls and score less than optimally. Shivam Dube's stock has gone down obviously. RInku's as well. But including Iyer and Gill in place of them will break the flow. These two will try to dominate the overs. tapandrun and Suhaan 2
tapandrun Posted May 2 Posted May 2 (edited) Why are the IPL stats of Ind intnl player discussed, check his intnl stats -- 21 matches --31 avg-- 139 sr--1 ton , 3 fifties The sr of 139 is bacause of 191 sr against afgn and 186 vs nz his ton came vs nz and 2 fifties are against zim and 1 fifty vs wi. Apart from those 2 teams (nz and Afgn) his sr against other teams is below 136 ipl teams are made around some 1-2 star player all the set-up is created to maximize those players ppl think kolhi is not fit for t20 as newer batters are coming he gas avg of 48 and sr 137, rohit has avg of 32 and sr of 140. so they are playing dated cricket but gill is not??? Edited May 2 by tapandrun
vvvslaxman Posted May 2 Posted May 2 53 minutes ago, tapandrun said: Why are the IPL stats of Ind intnl player discussed, check his intnl stats -- 21 matches --31 avg-- 139 sr--1 ton , 3 fifties The sr of 139 is bacause of 191 sr against afgn and 186 vs nz his ton came vs nz and 2 fifties are against zim and 1 fifty vs wi. Apart from those 2 teams (nz and Afgn) his sr against other teams is below 136 ipl teams are made around some 1-2 star player all the set-up is created to maximize those players ppl think kolhi is not fit for t20 as newer batters are coming he gas avg of 48 and sr 137, rohit has avg of 32 and sr of 140. so they are playing dated cricket but gill is not??? Yea structurally Indian team is different from IPL teams. For MI it works because the players play the same role they play for India. tapandrun 1
vvvslaxman Posted May 2 Posted May 2 1 hour ago, cricketfan28 said: Gill can play t20 , too many left handers at the top. All format player concept doesn't exist anymore given how much teh approach has changed in T20. T20 can introduce bad habits. Gill is designed to play ODIs and Tests. T20 can corrupt that approach. Infact it did impact Jaiswal briefly. He started playing shots in Tests too soon gave his wicket away. Iyer is naturally aggressive in all 3 formats. So he can somewhat adapt. Gill's typical tempo is ideal for ODIs.
crictime Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Abhishek Sharma has thrashed international level bowlers and like Sanju Samson has showed he can score 20 to 25 runs overs. Jaiswal if given a chance at international level in T20i has that ability as well to maul the bowling attack. Texan and tapandrun 2
Ultimate_Game Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Don't want Gill as he has that selfishness and a knack for putting his interests over the team's. We all saw that when he pushed new-comer and a youngster Abhishek down the order after Abhishek scored a 40 ball 100 in T20I. Rather than build the kid's confidence and give him more opportunities the way SKY has done with Tilak, Gill pushed Abhiskek to no. 3 when Gill as a captain and a senior player should've pushed himself down at 3. We saw that once again in the match against RR when Suryavanshi scored an eye-opening 100 as a 14 year old kid! Instead of congratulating the kid, and building his confidence and being gracious as anyone would, Gill came off as an immature, petty, and selfish jerk who couldn't stomach a school kid's success. I may not like SKY as a player as I don't think he has the game for tough situations and goes missing in big matches but I would still prefer SKY over Gill as Gill can ruin the team chemistry and culture. We're hoping for a fresh start after Kohli and Rohit's retirements so we can finally put the team ahead instead of stars. With Gill comin in and being the prominent player, we'll go back to the dark days and will continue doeing the same thing for 20 more years. The reason we love the modern Indian T20I team and these young, fearless kids are coz they play for the team instead of their stats. We don't want that to change by bringing in Gill at the helm the same way the team was under Kohli with stat-padders ruling the roost. That's why prefer Shreyas Iyer as the captain and player over Gill. Iyer has shown the maturity and leadership which is missing Gill. In fact even Pandya is better in that respect than Gill. I would take Iyer, Pandya or SKY ahead of Gill as captain and Sai Sudarshan as the batter. Sai can do the same things which Gill can without the selfishness. Texan, vvvslaxman and crictime 3
rkt.india Posted May 4 Posted May 4 11 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Don't want Gill as he has that selfishness and a knack for putting his interests over the team's. We all saw that when he pushed new-comer and a youngster Abhishek down the order after Abhishek scored a 40 ball 100 in T20I. Rather than build the kid's confidence and give him more opportunities the way SKY has done with Tilak, Gill pushed Abhiskek to no. 3 when Gill as a captain and a senior player should've pushed himself down at 3. We saw that once again in the match against RR when Suryavanshi scored an eye-opening 100 as a 14 year old kid! Instead of congratulating the kid, and building his confidence and being gracious as anyone would, Gill came off as an immature, petty, and selfish jerk who couldn't stomach a school kid's success. I may not like SKY as a player as I don't think he has the game for tough situations and goes missing in big matches but I would still prefer SKY over Gill as Gill can ruin the team chemistry and culture. We're hoping for a fresh start after Kohli and Rohit's retirements so we can finally put the team ahead instead of stars. With Gill comin in and being the prominent player, we'll go back to the dark days and will continue doeing the same thing for 20 more years. The reason we love the modern Indian T20I team and these young, fearless kids are coz they play for the team instead of their stats. We don't want that to change by bringing in Gill at the helm the same way the team was under Kohli with stat-padders ruling the roost. That's why prefer Shreyas Iyer as the captain and player over Gill. Iyer has shown the maturity and leadership which is missing Gill. In fact even Pandya is better in that respect than Gill. I would take Iyer, Pandya or SKY ahead of Gill as captain and Sai Sudarshan as the batter. Sai can do the same things which Gill can without the selfishness. Gill and Abhishek are competitors. Both played in same u19 WC squad. No one senior junior between the two.
Ultimate_Game Posted May 4 Posted May 4 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Gill and Abhishek are competitors. Both played in same u19 WC squad. No one senior junior between the two. In Indian team Abhishek was a youngster coming in making his debut. Gill OTOH had been around for the last few years and was captaining the team. Yes, Gill was the "senior" in the team and was calling the shots. Texan 1
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