India A tour of England

[Nikhil_cric]

5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol afaik Warne and even recently Yasir Shah has helped winning tests in England.

Kuldeep 1.0 has a 5fer in Sydney where we haven't won in like 40 years.

Jadeja is not going to scare any English batter.

 

Remember Kuldeep and Jaiswal won us the test series against England at home.

His 5fer on a flat Day 1 track in Dharamsala scarred English batters.  They can't pick him.

 

Frankly our pace bowling stocks barring Bumrah are unreliable.

And KD has highest ceiling among the bowling group after Bumrah.

Makes sense to play him.

 

I Fully trust Bharat Arun when it comes to tactics in bowling department.

Since the advent of Bazball pitches and the inferior version of Dukes ball in 2022, Lyon is the only spinner to have done well over there. 

 

Spin gets hammered, otherwise 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

2 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Agreed. Indian cricket falls too easily into muddled thinking without clear role clarity. So we select bowlers for their batting rather than cutting edge, define the keeper mainly as a pure batter and bat him way too high and choose captains for their instagram following and PR rather than proven leadership qualities.

It's as easy to play your best bowlers.

Likes of Brooks have even struggled to pick Kuldeep in Limited overs.

 

Headingley always has some bounce and zip in the pitch which Kuldeep relishes.

 

I fully expect our Pacers to fumble their lengths there.

 

They did it in 2021.. they will do it again.

Nasser Hussain always said bowling length in Leeds and rest of the country is always different.

[Lone Wolf]

5 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Since the advent of Bazball pitches and the inferior version of Dukes ball in 2022, Lyon is the only spinner to have done well over there. 

 

Spin gets hammered, otherwise 

 

 

Bashir is doing well off late.  Last summer was pretty decent vs SL too.

If tracks are that flat a left arm Wrist spinner who they have historically struggled against is a good call.

Edited June 7, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[lemsip]

21 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Bashir is doing well off late.  Last summer was pretty decent vs SL too.

 

Exactly. England have consistently used Bashir and he has generally delivered even though he is nowhere in Kuldeep's class as a bowler and wicket taking threat.  He took a 6-for in the last game as well and proved a harder proposition to face than the medium pacers England had in the side.

[rkt.india]

11 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Exactly. England have consistently used Bashir and he has generally delivered even though he is nowhere in Kuldeep's class as a bowler and wicket taking threat.  He took a 6-for in the last game as well and proved a harder proposition to face than the medium pacers England had in the side.

Kuldeep is a mental midget. Will lose it at the first sight of attack. Not reliable. He can do well but don't have high hopes.

[Lone Wolf]

19 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Exactly. England have consistently used Bashir and he has generally delivered even though he is nowhere in Kuldeep's class as a bowler and wicket taking threat.  He took a 6-for in the last game as well and proved a harder proposition to face than the medium pacers England had in the side.

Facts.. more revs on the ball and these flat tracks seem to suit Bashir.

Kuldeep can be deadly on his day..

Not easy to sweep him these days.

 

Attacking fields with short leg leg slip and a slip.. they will fumble.

Edited June 7, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[lemsip]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Kuldeep is a mental midget. Will lose it at the first sight of attack. Not reliable. He can do well but don't have high hopes.

That's par for the course for wrist spinners. They are selected for their ability to add a wicket taking threat not their dot ball percentage. In Shami's absence, Bumrah apart India have no other bowlers who offer a different challenge to the strong English batting lineup. Kuldeep bowled very well the last time the two teams met and in fact looked more threatening than Ashwin. He was underused by Rohit in that series actually.

There's obviously the option of packing the side with assorted medium pace trundlers ( Thakur, Reddy etc) which every England batsman plays every day in these conditions. That strategy has shown to be a losing one.

[rkt.india]

45 minutes ago, lemsip said:

That's par for the course for wrist spinners. They are selected for their ability to add a wicket taking threat not their dot ball percentage. In Shami's absence, Bumrah apart India have no other bowlers who offer a different challenge to the strong English batting lineup. Kuldeep bowled very well the last time the two teams met and in fact looked more threatening than Ashwin. He was underused by Rohit in that series actually.

There's obviously the option of packing the side with assorted medium pace trundlers ( Thakur, Reddy etc) which every England batsman plays every day in these conditions. That strategy has shown to be a losing one.

Shami averages 42 in England so he was never a threat there. Siraj is better than Shami for England.

[nitinbwj]

Khaleel yahan bhi ho gya zaleel 

[vvvslaxman]

Kamboj strikes.

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, nitinbwj said:

Khaleel yahan bhi ho gya zaleel 

He brings my energy level 10 times. I cannot believe this loser is featuring in a test series. Thought this brainless clown's international aspiration was put to rest by Powell.

[neel roy]

13 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

He brings my energy level 10 times. I cannot believe this loser is featuring in a test series. Thought this brainless clown's international aspiration was put to rest by Powell.

Khaleel was a reserve in t20 wc and CT to act as a replica threat for mitchell starc shaheen afridi marco jansen.. so he is getting his rewards for that reserve  act by getting to see London Bridge and Big Ben for free. 

[test fan]

Anshul kamboj is real deal . These Zaleel and Deshpande are garbage bowlers. 

 

Apart from kamboj ,I don't see any quality test bowler in the domestic cricket .

[neel roy]

Yeh Desh Pande to paan khaake run bech raha hai free main. 

[deathmonger]

Kamboj should be kept back as back up.

[vvvslaxman]

Indian batsmen have to step up massively as we will be chasing leather in this series. Their batting is insanely deep. Even no.10 can make 100. 

[putrevus]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Jurel can easily play as a specialist batsman. According to this logic, sangakkara, abdv, ben ducket were also wk but played as specialist batsmen.

no he cannot, Stop comparing him with guys like ABDV.

[putrevus]

18 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

based on IPL orange cap only? and no serious red ball match for 6 months?

 

Ok got it

So couple of matches against third class bowling attack on flattest pitches makes Jurel ready.

 

Ok Got it.

[Nikhil_cric]

Just add Kamboj to the squad already. 

 

He isn't some world beater as his ceiling isn't the highest but he's better than the rest .

 

 

[lemsip]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

He brings my energy level 10 times. I cannot believe this loser is featuring in a test series. Thought this brainless clown's international aspiration was put to rest by Powell.

Wait for Avesh Khan to crash into the side as a last minute lethal weapon