diga Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 4 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: I am speaking from his legacy-perspective, not the team's. The team and fans should beg him to stay. That's how you retire. Fans of Lohli are so brain dead that they cannot distinguish formats... they confuse his IPL form with international cricket Ultimate_Game 1
Lord Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 22 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Jadeja should retire from tests, too. He is at the top. One of the MVPs of this series, albeit as a batter. If he retires now, his legacy is etched in glory forever. With Sundar already established. Team India can start developing Kotian, Dubey, Sutar, Sai Kishore for the future as another spin-allrounder. That's a selfish way to look at things. If he can contribute to the team should stay. Don't forget youngsters need some guidance in initial years too. We don't have spin bowling coach either
ShoonyaSifar Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 Absolutely. No one missed them. Except for their fan clubs, who kept downplaying this team from day 1, and are still at it giving excuses of flat wicket, poor England side etc. Dare I say this performance also will put them under pressure for ODIs. Gill, Jaiswal, Sai, Iyer, Rahul, Hardik, Parag, Axar, Washi/ NKR, Kuldeep, Arshdeep, Harshit, Prasidh, Varun with Bumrah and Siraj mostly resting is a good enough combo. The generational transition has kicked off after the drawn series. How motivated will Rohit and Kohli be for say bilateral ODIs vs WI, SL, Afg, or even vs Aus, SA, Eng, NZ when most sides don't pick their best 11s for ODIs. Can't see them going beyond a home ODI series or two. bowl_out and Suhaan 2
Lord Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 I've no doubt we'd lost under Fatso. The way he gave up in WC finals spreading the field was disgusting. Sgattick10, Number, rollingstoned and 2 others 5
New guy Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 3 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: This is the bane of Indian cricket (maybe other teams too, but I don't care about them). Star players tarnishing their own legacy by hanging on well-past their shelf-life. Bullshit, none of the earlier players hung on this long as Kohli did. Players like ponting hung on for way longer than dravid, Sehwag, Sachin, ganguly yet no Aussie calls it tarnishing legacies 2 hours ago, Vickydev said: Lord 1
New guy Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vickydev said: Didn't miss Bumrah. Seriously if someone has to pick and choose games in a period of a month and half, they shouldn't be relied upon either. The team is greater than any individual Not this brain dead point again. EVERY team manages fast bowlers like Archer, wood, Akhtar, lee, etc. I swear Indians are simply brain dead about how fast bowlers should be managed. I guess you think we should treat bumrah like how Pakistanis treated Afridi and now he is a trundler. Soon Siraj will also be grounded to dust. Managing bowlers workload and having backups is how you continue to have a consistent, great bowling attack We have turned so many fast bowlers into trundlers by mismanagement of workload and injuries in the past yet people like you never learn your lesson. A gem like bumrah comes once in many generations and you want to use him like a workhorse. Edited August 4, 2025 by New guy Lord 1
Vickydev Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 20 minutes ago, New guy said: Not this brain dead point again. EVERY team manages fast bowlers like Archer, wood, Akhtar, lee, etc. I swear Indians are simply brain dead about how fast bowlers should be managed. I guess you think we should treat bumrah like how Pakistanis treated Afridi and now he is a trundler. Soon Siraj will also be grounded to dust. Managing bowlers workload and having backups is how you continue to have a consistent, great bowling attack We have turned so many fast bowlers into trundlers by mismanagement of workload and injuries in the past yet people like you never learn your lesson. A gem like bumrah comes once in many generations and you want to use him like a workhorse. Bumrah's plays nowhere near as much as Afridi did before he had issues. He pretty much rests against every tier 2 opponent and hardly plays any bilateral LOIs. That's where he is being managed Why do Starc and Cummins play every test of Ashes and BGT? It's great to build a bowling attack during phases when team is playing lower opponents. Build a bench strength whatever. But your main guy shouldn't miss matches in an important series to manage workload. That's when you actually need them. Wrap them up in cotton wool in useless games. It's like Argentina resting Messi in KOs of World Cup/Copa America to manage his work rate, there are international friendlies for that.
Lord Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 35 minutes ago, New guy said: Not this brain dead point again. EVERY team manages fast bowlers like Archer, wood, Akhtar, lee, etc. I swear Indians are simply brain dead about how fast bowlers should be managed. I guess you think we should treat bumrah like how Pakistanis treated Afridi and now he is a trundler. Soon Siraj will also be grounded to dust. Managing bowlers workload and having backups is how you continue to have a consistent, great bowling attack We have turned so many fast bowlers into trundlers by mismanagement of workload and injuries in the past yet people like you never learn your lesson. A gem like bumrah comes once in many generations and you want to use him like a workhorse. Yes Siraj deserved rest too. We need to have a bigger pool and ensure top pacers play only important games and series Having said our pacers need to work on their fitness too. Most get injured too easily
Suhaan Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 32 minutes ago, Vickydev said: Bumrah's plays nowhere near as much as Afridi did before he had issues. He pretty much rests against every tier 2 opponent and hardly plays any bilateral LOIs. That's where he is being managed Why do Starc and Cummins play every test of Ashes and BGT? It's great to build a bowling attack during phases when team is playing lower opponents. Build a bench strength whatever. But your main guy shouldn't miss matches in an important series to manage workload. That's when you actually need them. Wrap them up in cotton wool in useless games. It's like Argentina resting Messi in KOs of World Cup/Copa America to manage his work rate, there are international friendlies for that. Na it's fine Bumrah plays this many His action is peculiar,if he plays just to make numbers it hurts more Plus his absence gives others opportunity to take the lead,like Siraj thus giving more options How many times people will give Aussie trio example?they are exceptional athletes infact no one comes close to them That is a norm ,with too much cricket including franchise cricket everyone is getting injured Before them the previous Aussie batch was also mostly injury ridden I feel Harshit should be given a long consistent rope against WI at home resting Siraj or maybe Bumrah as well,we don't need the two seniors anyway at home Harshit coming good does serves us well
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