Pakistan creates a new missile service ( rocket force ) to match India

[rangeelaraja]

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3321823/pakistans-new-rocket-force-aims-match-indias-missile-capabilities

 

This is obviously in the aftermath of India's Brahmos attack which they just watched helplessly.

 

I feel until and unless India operationalizes in massive numbers - 2000+ that is way beyond Pak's reach - Pak will through help from Turkey, China and others will catch up with India in terms of sheer numbers.

 

This is in line with that I have been saying all along - that Pak will use this "pause" to ramp up its capacity and capabilities. 

[Lone Wolf]

Pakistan can't create sh*t forget about having their own MBRL systems..

There were reports during Asim Munir's visit that he requested US to give them M142 Himar MBRL systems.

 

Maybe Shahbaz is referring to this one.

 

It's an extremely capable and battle tested system I'd say.

 

India needs to fast track its extended range guided Pinaka Variants and stop fooling around.

 

Current Unguided smaller range Pinaka are good enough for striking army outposts even Bordering villages towns etc...

 

For a longer range Barrage assualt you need those longer ranged rockets in sizeable numbers to overwhelm any sort of air defences.. and take out HVT with minimal risks.

 

[mishra]

3 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3321823/pakistans-new-rocket-force-aims-match-indias-missile-capabilities

 

This is obviously in the aftermath of India's Brahmos attack which they just watched helplessly.

 

I feel until and unless India operationalizes in massive numbers - 2000+ that is way beyond Pak's reach - Pak will through help from Turkey, China and others will catch up with India in terms of sheer numbers.

 

This is in line with that I have been saying all along - that Pak will use this "pause" to ramp up its capacity and capabilities. 

Unlimited numebr of Pakistani Rockets, missiles will be stored in a versy small limted silos/bunkers . As long as we have that intelligence and can bust them , we are good

 

PS; Chinese have same issue as well. Tibet is so far away from China and the terrain is so difficult, any infrastructure they develop along our border is generally uninhabitated and has logistical choke points. 

Edited August 14, 2025 by mishra

[rangeelaraja]

@mishra @Lone Wolf

 

Rocket force is not just for MBRL - it is primarily a missile offensive and defensive branch of the army in line with China’s Rocket force ( which is meant for the same ) 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_Rocket_Force

 

 

Somehow these Pak beggars have built a surprisingly large inventory of cheap missiles it seems. 
 

Asim Munir has also kind of given away their intention and plan - Pak may have not have defensive capabilities to protect themselves and their sensitive assets - but they have a reasonably large inventory now to launch a saturation attack. Thats why Munir spoke about East to West and Jamnagar refinery. 
 

 

Either thjs is a bluff so we don’t do another hot operation like we did between May 6-10 or this is signaling intention after they have acquired new capabilities with the help of a few countries. 

 

 

[pkmmamks]

They have also started an international channel 

[jf1gp_1]

Watching Sare Jahan se accha, new show on Netflix about Indian spy in pak. In one of the episodes character of a Pakistani solider say Zulfikar Bhutto eating 7 course meal but Pak janta eating grass to fund nuclear bomb (after Bhutto said we will eat grass but will make bomb).

[kepler37b]

11 hours ago, pkmmamks said:

They have also started an international channel 

I think our private run channels do enough pro-indian propaganda. We might not need a gormint channel at all. 

[mishra]

8 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Watching Sare Jahan se accha, new show on Netflix about Indian spy in pak. In one of the episodes character of a Pakistani solider say Zulfikar Bhutto eating 7 course meal but Pak janta eating grass to fund nuclear bomb (after Bhutto said we will eat grass but will make bomb).

That is well recorded message

[Lord]

14 hours ago, kepler37b said:

I think our private run channels do enough pro-indian propaganda. We might not need a gormint channel at all. 

DD can do it

[IndianRenegade]

Well what missiles are they actively developing that should concern India, other than cheap missiles that have poor CEP.

[Chaos]

Bonobos unite, war is coming. Partner stake holders: @vvvslaxman @zen 

[Chaos]

Wtf is rocket force? . Looks like they been watching too much of DC shows? 

Edited August 16, 2025 by Chaos

[IndianRenegade]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Wtf is rocket force? . Looks like they been watching too much of DC shows? 

Integrated Rocket Force proposed by General Bipin Rawat. Chinese also have PLARF (PLA Rocket force).

 

so the did what they know best, cut copy paste.

[Chaos]

25 minutes ago, IndianRenegade said:

Integrated Rocket Force proposed by General Bipin Rawat. Chinese also have PLARF (PLA Rocket force).

 

so the did what they know best, cut copy paste.

Bcs becoming like chinese n cucking towards usa now. Beggars always wants to be slaves for $ . From ICF.

[coffee_rules]

Sudarshan Chakra can defend all such rocket force. It is India’s indigenous Iron Dome

 

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pm-modi-independence-day-speech-sudarshan-chakra-indias-iron-dome-operation-sindoor-9090904

Sudarshan Chakra' To Protect Our Skies. India's 'Iron Dome' Explained

[Lone Wolf]

On 8/14/2025 at 9:00 PM, rangeelaraja said:

@mishra @Lone Wolf

 

Rocket force is not just for MBRL - it is primarily a missile offensive and defensive branch of the army in line with China’s Rocket force ( which is meant for the same ) 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Liberation_Army_Rocket_Force

 

 

Somehow these Pak beggars have built a surprisingly large inventory of cheap missiles it seems. 
 

Asim Munir has also kind of given away their intention and plan - Pak may have not have defensive capabilities to protect themselves and their sensitive assets - but they have a reasonably large inventory now to launch a saturation attack. Thats why Munir spoke about East to West and Jamnagar refinery. 
 

 

Either thjs is a bluff so we don’t do another hot operation like we did between May 6-10 or this is signaling intention after they have acquired new capabilities with the help of a few countries. 

 

 

In the name of Rocket forces they now have A100 Mlrs, Fateh 1 and Fateh 2 batteries in Limited numbers btw..

 

They tried with Fateh 2 in Op Banyan Chaddi.. probably fired a couple of them in Jammu to attack some temple and other that got intercepted in Sirsa.

Both turned out to be utter failures.

 

While India needs to work on its own offensive capabilities when it comes to a rocket force our current capabilities are improving.

 

In next 3-4 years our air defense mechanism would be even more robust when it comes to Pakistan.

 

Without American systems they don't stand a chance.

[rangeelaraja]

14 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

In the name of Rocket forces they now have A100 Mlrs, Fateh 1 and Fateh 2 batteries in Limited numbers btw..

 

They tried with Fateh 2 in Op Banyan Chaddi.. probably fired a couple of them in Jammu to attack some temple and other that got intercepted in Sirsa.

Both turned out to be utter failures.

 

While India needs to work on its own offensive capabilities when it comes to a rocket force our current capabilities are improving.

 

In next 3-4 years our air defense mechanism would be even more robust when it comes to Pakistan.

 

Without American systems they don't stand a chance.

What surprises me is these beggars always have numbers. They are never short of weapons - despite being much smaller and financially constrained. The quality may be inferior but sometimes quantity has a quality of its own. They fired many more missiles against us than we did against them. 
 

They sent over 500 drones into our territory vs. 100 or less we sent across the loc. 

 

Now if they have a dedicated force - their  numbers may go up even further. 
 

 

 

[Lone Wolf]

46 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

What surprises me is these beggars always have numbers. They are never short of weapons - despite being much smaller and financially constrained. The quality may be inferior but sometimes quantity has a quality of its own. They fired many more missiles against us than we did against them. 
 

They sent over 500 drones into our territory vs. 100 or less we sent across the loc. 

 

Now if they have a dedicated force - their  numbers may go up even further. 
 

 

 

Pakistan strives to maintain balance as long as it can and minimum military deterrence against its much larger foe.

 

Their defence budget is structured that way and honestly they don't need Government approval or bureaucratic dramebaazi to get what they want.. and there is always Saudis Qatar Turkey funding them. 

 

I won't be surprised if they manage to get their hands on some Turkish cruise missiles next time.

 

Turkiye is like unofficially NATO helping them out with Drone technology.. this is West doing its dirty work without getting itself involved.

 

The salaries of common soldier isn't kept that high unlike in India.

But at some point of time no matter how hard they try India is supposed to have an insurmountable edge.  This is where US and West comes in to save its investment.

 

Pakistan wasn't always a beggar nation.  For majority of our Independent history they were ahead of us in social and economic indicators.

 

 

Zia Ul Haq came out literally as blessing from our Gods to completely wreck them and destroy their economy to a complete irreversible decline.

An economically stronger Pakistan would have been a challenge of a different stratosphere compared to now.

 

 

[rangeelaraja]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pakistan strives to maintain balance as long as it can and minimum military deterrence against its much larger foe.

 

Their defence budget is structured that way and honestly they don't need Government approval or bureaucratic dramebaazi to get what they want.. and there is always Saudis Qatar Turkey funding them. 

 

I won't be surprised if they manage to get their hands on some Turkish cruise missiles next time.

 

Turkiye is like unofficially NATO helping them out with Drone technology.. this is West doing its dirty work without getting itself involved.

 

The salaries of common soldier isn't kept that high unlike in India.

But at some point of time no matter how hard they try India is supposed to have an insurmountable edge.  This is where US and West comes in to save its investment.

 

Pakistan wasn't always a beggar nation.  For majority of our Independent history they were ahead of us in social and economic indicators.

 

 

Zia Ul Haq came out literally as blessing from our Gods to completely wreck them and destroy their economy to a complete irreversible decline.

An economically stronger Pakistan would have been a challenge of a different stratosphere compared to now.

 

 

Only in I think 2000s we overtook them on per capita basis. And now are 15 years ahead of them on a per capita basis based on their dead growth. 
 

On the contrary I feel they have always been a beggar nation - always looking to find a western master.  The reason they were ahead of us was because for over 15 years during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan—- these Pakistani beggars milked blood  money from the West, particularly US. 
 

The moment that war ended,  the flow of US dollars dried out, these beggars started facing harsh times. 
 

Their whole existence has been based on being of some Utility to the West and earning of that. 
 

Thats why they played the double game with the West. The longer Taliban issue dragged on - the longer they would be able to milk the West through rent money. 
 

that’s precisely the reason why Afghanis hate Pak and Pak army. 
 

 

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

The moment that war ended,  the flow of US dollars dried out, these beggars started facing harsh times. 
 

Their whole existence has been based on being of some Utility to the West and earning of that. 
 

That's why they are projecting themselves as a front against Iran to the US to play the same game they played in Afghanistan.

No wonder even IDF these days is chummy with them.

Rothschild is a known key funding source to them as well.