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BCCI 'Approached' Laxman For Test Coaching After South Africa Series Loss Under Gautam Gambhir. He Rejected Offer: Report


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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, diga said:

BCCI has strict rules for coach including international playing experience and person below 60. Someone like shukri conrad won't even qualify here

 

Coaching experience is much more important than playing experience. There is an unlimited supply of idiots who can throw their hats in the ring based on a few tests they might have played in the past. Connection with the players is also vague because players will always come and go. Ashwin has no coaching experience or record. To make him Indian team coach based mainly on his playing career and his media presence would risk another Gambhir situation.

Edited by lemsip
Posted
3 hours ago, Talkie said:

Nothing great by Laxman. Why can't BCCI be brave enough to contact someone with a proven track record? If Moody, Hesson, Andy Flower have previous commitments, they should go with Ponting in worst case scenario. 

Andy flower has a great coaching resume... IPL champion with RCB, multiple t20 wins in Eng & was the last coach to win Ashes in Australia. 

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3 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Coaching experience is much more important than playing experience. There is an unlimited supply of idiots who can throw their hats in the ring based on a few tests they might have played in the past. Connection with the players is also vague because players will always come and go. Ashwin has no coaching experience or record. To make him Indian team coach based mainly on his playing career and his media presence would risk another Gambhir situation.

Ashwin's personality is more suited to redball cricket than Gambhir..  He will experiment a lot and that will be his achilles heel 

Posted
7 minutes ago, diga said:

Ashwin's personality is more suited to redball cricket than Gambhir..  He will experiment a lot and that will be his achilles heel 

Let him coach at any level and show he can be successful there. He was a great player who talks well on his podcasts and channels but that is not enough.

He can certainly help upgrade the sycophantic commentary panels on Indian TV but to consider him for a national coaching job is like offering a retiring pilot a job as a CEO of an airline.

 

Posted
4 hours ago, Suhaan said:

All I want is a good dressing room environment for our fairly young test cricketers,if he's a typical headmaster like figure so be it,but don't let the environment get toxic 

Gambhir is worse in that regard. I am not sure dressing room is happy under Gambhir. 

Posted
1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Gambhir is worse in that regard. I am not sure dressing room is happy under Gambhir. 

Yes i said in his context,what he's doing in the dressing room others should see as an example,what a coach mustn't do

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Yes i said in his context,what he's doing in the dressing room others should see as an example,what a coach mustn't do

 

I think they should hire coaches who have done atleast level 2 Ideall with the money we have, we should have level 3 coach 

 

These are the things you learn as a level 3 coach

 

Key Points on Level 3 Coaching:
  • Elite Certification: Level 3 is the pinnacle of many coaching education systems, focusing on developing coaches for high-performance and international levels.
  • ICC Program: The ICC runs a significant program, with its platform seeing thousands of completions across all levels, including Level 3, supporting elite development worldwide.
  • Intensive & Selective: Courses are often intense (e.g., 9 weeks), online, and have limited spots (e.g., 15 per cohort) for personalized attention, notes Coached Cricket.
  • Global Reach: While specific numbers aren't public, certifications are issued across 173 countries, indicating a growing international community of advanced coaches, according to ICC. 
Edited by vvvslaxman
Posted
3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

I think they should hire coaches who have done atleast level 2 Ideall with the money we have, we should have level 3 coach 

 

These are the things you learn as a level 3 coach

 

Key Points on Level 3 Coaching:
  • Elite Certification: Level 3 is the pinnacle of many coaching education systems, focusing on developing coaches for high-performance and international levels.
  • ICC Program: The ICC runs a significant program, with its platform seeing thousands of completions across all levels, including Level 3, supporting elite development worldwide.
  • Intensive & Selective: Courses are often intense (e.g., 9 weeks), online, and have limited spots (e.g., 15 per cohort) for personalized attention, notes Coached Cricket.
  • Global Reach: While specific numbers aren't public, certifications are issued across 173 countries, indicating a growing international community of advanced coaches, according to ICC. 

 

GG doesnt have any certification AFAIK

Posted
4 minutes ago, Lord said:

Why are they stuck on Indian options? Get an experienced overseas coach.

 

 

Amol Majumdar phir bh theek hai,has knowledge about what's going on in domestics

Posted
13 hours ago, Manucrick said:

I think we need  task master type coach in test cricket 

 

Task master coaches have problems with superstar players. Not sure there are any superstars left in Indian cricket once (once Virat and Rohit retire from ODIs). 

 

Guys like Gill and Hardik are the current stars but perhaps not at the level of Tendulkar, Dhoni, Virat, Rohit. A task master might just work with the current lot of players. 

 

Gambhir's problem wasn't that he was a task master. His problem was that he wasn't a great thinker. Really struggled with strategy.

Posted (edited)

I say get someone like Stephen Fleming. Even-tempered, left handed opening batters have worked well for us like John Wright and Gary Kirsten in the past. I would even see if Michael Hussey is interested. You would want to have someone who isn't too far removed from playing cricket, keeps a low profile, doesn't stay in lime-light, and understand modern cricket. Stephen Fleming and Michael Hussey fit the bill.

 

You need someone from outside without any biases else you'll get the same "Gill in all formats" or "Iyer and Jaiswal being pushed out" drama. Someone from outside is likely to be much more neutral and players will accept his feedback more positively.

Edited by Ultimate_Game
Posted
8 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Amol Majumdar phir bh theek hai,has knowledge about what's going on in domestics

BCCI mandates international experience for coach if I remember... Amol Mazumder doesn't have any 

Posted
3 minutes ago, diga said:

BCCI mandates international experience for coach if I remember... Amol Mazumder doesn't have any 

Does IPL coaching count?

Posted
8 hours ago, Lord said:

 

That'll never work with Indian team. Our best coaches have been those who worked as a friend and mentor more than task master

At some point I also felt task masters are better but thing is ,it is like having only one opinion which is followed by everyone

There is no consensus or plan A,B,C

With cricket evolving at much faster pace last thing you will want is dearth of ideas and strategies which comes from open environment,yes there should be no indiscipline either 

Posted
1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

At some point I also felt task masters are better but thing is ,it is like having only one opinion which is followed by everyone

There is no consensus or plan A,B,C

With cricket evolving at much faster pace last thing you will want is dearth of ideas and strategies which comes from open environment,yes there should be no indiscipline either 

 

You want someone who is respected by everyone yet is able to work as a mentor and in the background.

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