randomGuy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 14 hours ago, singhvivek141 said: Its a smart strategy 1. Pak Iran war will be explosive, this will distract Iran and it will direct it's energy towards blasting Pakistan. Pooks too will retaliate with full force (plus whatever support they'll get from House of Saud's and House of Whites) 2. Middle East and Israel will take a sigh of breath. Iran can't fight on all fronts and hence the amount of missiles to these nations will reduce. 3. Chinks will be in a tough spot, both are their allies in some way. This will put them under additional pressure, and US can stop bringing in it's fleet from South China sea. Basically Pakistan will be used as a sacrificial lamb against Iran. Just before pakistan is about to attack Iran, we should make sure Iran has all the coordinates of all targets in Pakistan No other country has intel on pakistan as India does and should provide to Iran secretly via Russia maybe. singhvivek141 1
Lone Wolf Posted March 13 Posted March 13 10 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Bhai isko kya hua hai yarr last time Indians had to apologise on his behalf when he needlessly went below the belt over Iran. Now he himself getting brutally trolled all over X by even Veterans
Lone Wolf Posted March 13 Posted March 13 11 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Just before pakistan is about to attack Iran, we should make sure Iran has all the coordinates of all targets in Pakistan No other country has intel on pakistan as India does and should provide to Iran secretly via Russia maybe. Iran probably has more spies and real time intelligence in Pak than any other country. All those shia terror outfits still exist in Pak in the form of sleeper cells. This is the reason Pooks are hesitant despite Saudi pressure Those 20% shias have loyalty towards the new Ayatollah rather than artificial Pak.
Mariyam Posted March 13 Posted March 13 14 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Iran probably has more spies and real time intelligence in Pak than any other country. All those shia terror outfits still exist in Pak in the form of sleeper cells. This is the reason Pooks are hesitant despite Saudi pressure Those 20% shias have loyalty towards the new Ayatollah rather than artificial Pak. Most Shi'a are loyal to Al Sistani. He is considered the spiritual rahbar. Khomeini ( predecessor of Khamenei) was looked up to because he was also a revolutionary. Based on just theological qualifications, perhaps Mojtaba Khamenei does not rank too high. Best check with some Shi'a ravishingravi 1
kepler37b Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 (edited) https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/zohran-mamdani-reassured-jewish-new-yorkers-but-his-wife-s-oct-7-social-media-activity-tells-another-story/ar-AA1XJfd2?ocid=BingNewsVerp Middle east perhaps hosts a retarded population that wishes to administer massacre and rape on kaffir's. That alone can explain a very educated and prosperous woman behaving like this. They deserve all the poverty and violence they are living in. I am sure more than 10 percent there are like this. Edited March 13 by kepler37b
ravishingravi Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Mariyam said: Most Shi'a are loyal to Al Sistani. He is considered the spiritual rahbar. Khomeini ( predecessor of Khamenei) was looked up to because he was also a revolutionary. Based on just theological qualifications, perhaps Mojtaba Khamenei does not rank too high. Best check with some Shi'a Interestingly Mojtaba ( sounds Bengali ), doesn't have charm and popularity of his father, but is more honed in military strategy and making money.
Tillu Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Shiv Aroor on X 6 YEARS: FROM COVID TO IRAN TIME FOR SOME PAINFUL TRUTHS Six turbulent years from Covid to the Ladakh standoff to Ukraine war to Trump’s tariff offensive to the current Iran war have exposed a hard truth. India remains dangerously dependent on the world for things a serious power should control at home. Energy first, since that’s on everyone’s mind right now. India imports about 85% of its crude oil and roughly 50% of its natural gas. We depend heavily on overseas supply chains for critical minerals like lithium, cobalt and nickel that will power the next generation of batteries and energy systems. Any disruption anywhere from the Strait of Hormuz to sanctions on major producers immediately ripples through LPG prices, electricity costs and inflation. The current LPG anxiety during the Iran war is just the latest reminder of how exposed we are. Defence is worse. Despite decades of rhetoric about indigenisation, India still imports roughly 45 to 50% of its major weapons systems, making it one of the world’s largest arms importers, if not the largest. During the Ladakh standoff with China (which is still on) the country had to rush through emergency purchases of munitions, drones, artillery shells and winter gear because either we don’t make those items or domestic capacity could not surge quickly enough. A country facing two nuclear adversaries should never have to scramble for weapons in the middle of a military standoff. Pharmaceuticals reveal another uncomfortable truth. India is known as the pharmacy of the world, yet around 70% of our active pharmaceutical ingredients come from outside, including China. During Covid this vulnerability became obvious as India scrambled for oxygen, PPE kits, ventilators and key medical inputs. Technology dependence is the most alarming of all. More than 90% of advanced semiconductors are imported, most high end AI chips and servers are foreign made, and critical digital hardware depends almost entirely on global supply chains. In an era where AI will define both economic power and military capability, this is a profound strategic vulnerability. Add fertiliser precursors, rare earths, electronics components, solar modules and specialised machine tools and the list becomes even longer. Each time the world experiences a shock (Ukraine, Iran, Azerbaijan, Covid) whether it is a pandemic, sanctions on Russia, a war in West Asia or rising great power tensions India is forced into code red emergency management mode. The uncomfortable reality is that true strategic autonomy requires historically painful decisions. Building domestic capacity in energy, weapons, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors and AI will demand huge investment, long term industrial policy, and years of political risk. It may mean accepting higher costs and slower returns in the short term in order to build resilience for the long term. But India’s election to election political cycle rewards short term thinking. No government wants to take decisions that may, beyond a point, take a decade to pay off. The decisions these crises compel from a country like India will mean a total dismantlement of our politics as we know it today. It will mean a generation of turning the country on its head. Yet the alternative is worse. As things stand India remains structurally vulnerable. A country that has to scramble every time the world shakes cannot claim true strategic autonomy. From COVID to Iran, the last six years have made that painfully clear. mishra 1
randomGuy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Iran probably has more spies and real time intelligence in Pak than any other country. All those shia terror outfits still exist in Pak in the form of sleeper cells. This is the reason Pooks are hesitant despite Saudi pressure Those 20% shias have loyalty towards the new Ayatollah rather than artificial Pak. Apart from Gulf countries, it hasn't done damage... even through the old donkey route, it could have had ten thousand elite commandos in USA by now. It can't reach USA. USA ne uski maa behen ek kar rakhi hai. India knows ins n outs of Pakistan due to language, culture familiarity. Iran know way less than India on Pakistani targets, Iran has many more countries to focus on as potential targets.
Lone Wolf Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 42 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Apart from Gulf countries, it hasn't done damage... even through the old donkey route, it could have had ten thousand elite commandos in USA by now. It can't reach USA. USA ne uski maa behen ek kar rakhi hai. India knows ins n outs of Pakistan due to language, culture familiarity. Iran know way less than India on Pakistani targets, Iran has many more countries to focus on as potential targets. India and Pak obviously know a lot about each other , spy network is vast and yes you are right the cultural similarity helps. But Iran knows how to fight assymetric Warfare batter than us.as they share a land border.. They can activate BLA and guide them through IRGC Jernails and equipment alike. Sipah e Mohmmad a renowned Shia militant organisation within Pookland will be activated including rest of the Shia populace. Things will be messy. Edited March 13 by Lone Wolf ravishingravi 1
kepler37b Posted March 13 Author Posted March 13 Iranian professional army is a paper tiger. Pooks will give them a whooping. Except in missiles, pooks dominate everywhere. And in the current situation the space has grown even more. For example, padosis have j series fighters from chinks. Iranians just have the aging f14 fleet. And they have no awacs. Let ICFers be not in any delusion. straighttalk 1
mishra Posted March 13 Posted March 13 7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: India and Pak obviously know a lot about each other , spy network is vast and yes you are right the cultural similarity helps. But Iran knows how to fight assymetric Warfare batter than us.as they share a land border.. They can activate BLA and guide them through IRGC Jernails and equipment alike. Sipah e Mohmmad a renowned Shia militant organisation within Pookland will be activated including rest of the Shia populace. Things will be messy. Bhai, sara asymmetrical g@@nd mein ghus jaayegaa. Trump is madman. He said “i can finish the war in 1 hour “. Means he has threatened to “nuke Iran”. What will happen if US nukes Iran. Will China or Russia sanction US from UN? Think that possibility as well.
Lone Wolf Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, mishra said: Bhai, sara asymmetrical g@@nd mein ghus jaayegaa. Trump is madman. He said “i can finish the war in 1 hour “. Means he has threatened to “nuke Iran”. What will happen if US nukes Iran. Will China or Russia sanction US from UN? Think that possibility as well. His Aircraft carriers are roaming deep into the Arabian seas far away from Persian Gulf... A country with no airforce and a rag tag Navy with bunch of older Submarines has choked the eff Outta his ME allies. Don't think he has any other option. But the safer bet is Pookistan. They are the only gateway
singhvivek141 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: Iranian professional army is a paper tiger. Pooks will give them a whooping. Except in missiles, pooks dominate everywhere. And in the current situation the space has grown even more. For example, padosis have j series fighters from chinks. Iranians just have the aging f14 fleet. And they have no awacs. Let ICFers be not in any delusion. Its not about who wins between Iran & Pakistan. Its about losses, Iran can cause significant damage to Pakistan before going down. Then there is BLA, TTP militias, who too will cause dent to Pak military heavily. Pak, despite powerful cant use its full capability as he cant risk bordr with India. Pakistan's strength is concentrated in Punjab & Sindh. KPK and Balochistan are under powered.
singhvivek141 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, mishra said: Bhai, sara asymmetrical g@@nd mein ghus jaayegaa. Trump is madman. He said “i can finish the war in 1 hour “. Means he has threatened to “nuke Iran”. What will happen if US nukes Iran. Will China or Russia sanction US from UN? Think that possibility as well. Bhai, Trump cant do that. If US does that...he will cause huge mistrust in Gulf..plus it will normalize nuclear and theoretically Russia can use it on Ukraine and China on Taiwan. Nukes are currently like the core of Chenobyl, the moment pressure increases. All those safety measure will get ruptured and we will see a massive explosion which will spread to every nook and corner of the wod. ravishingravi 1
singhvivek141 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 39 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: His Aircraft carriers are roaming deep into the Arabian seas far away from Persian Gulf... A country with no airforce and a rag tag Navy with bunch of older Submarines has choked the eff Outta his ME allies. Don't think he has any other option. But the safer bet is Pookistan. They are the only gateway Big question, why hasn't US used their ballistic missiles launched from SSNs. Probably they are still careful enough to not target civilians and use their support to topple the regime.
Lone Wolf Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 54 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Big question, why hasn't US used their ballistic missiles launched from SSNs. Probably they are still careful enough to not target civilians and use their support to topple the regime. Iran doesn't cares about civilian losses at this moment. A few Submarine launched ballistic missiles won't make a difference. US has to risk a CBG accompanied by SSN's and SSGN's to secure the straits and Gulf. The threat of Hypersonic and Iranian cruise missiles will be there but they gotta risk it at some point if they aren't in a position to invade directly. Chinos must be laughing at the incompetence of US Navy atp. They ain't gonna be ready to face the full fury of PLAN in 2040's. Edited March 13 by Lone Wolf
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