Afghanistan tour of India | 3 ODIs | June 13th, 17th, 20th | 1:30 pm IST | Dharamshala, Ekana, Chepauk | Star Sports, Jio Hotstar

[vvvslaxman]

I think INdia should experiment with Zeeshan Ansari. These bloody buggers have no included him either in Indian team or in India A team. Harsh Dubey bowling average is 44.00 for 2025/26 season. HE is just econmical.  You can't have someone like him in the middle overs. Today got some lucky wickets. Also in pace deparment Gurapjneet or Prince yadav should have been played in place of prasdham. 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Dube or Tilak in the t20 side >>Iyer in the side

LIterally everyone was >> SKY  lol We won. That is how they will look at.

[vvvslaxman]

INdia's biggest headache will be  bowling. Shami, Bumrah, siraj, Kuldeep, Pandya combination was very good.  India has to focus on bowling department more. We have enough batsmen in the set up.

[Suhaan]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I think INdia should experiment with Zeeshan Ansari. These bloody buggers have no included him either in Indian team or in India A team. Harsh Dubey bowling average is 44.00 for 2025/26 season. HE is just econmical.  You can't have someone like him in the middle overs. Today got some lucky wickets. Also in pace deparment Gurapjneet or Prince yadav should have been played in place of prasdham. 

Dubey ,not a big turner,his technical release focuses heavily on getting overspin and a high release point

Not a white ball bowler now,there is dip there in red ball when he gives it loop

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Suhaan said:

Dubey ,not a big turner,his technical release focuses heavily on getting overspin and a high release point

Not a white ball bowler now,there is dip there in red ball when he gives it loop

 

Precisely why he should not have selected for ODis. They made the same mistake with Siraj. Played him first in T20. HE was thrased by Bangladesh. He stocks went down. Introducing players in wrong formats will hurt them more than help them.

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Bigger problems in this ODI team. Sundar quietly escapes scrutiny yet again. One over, 19 runs. Is he playing as specialist batsman then? Because it is clear that TM/Gill don't see any bowling potential in him. 

 

He is Jadeja 2.0, without the fielding prowess. Absolute liability. 

Perhaps better in hitting and temperament but yeah unnecessary now

 

When Jadeja debuted there were not many options then won us CT 2013 and became a permanent member 

 

No such compulsion here with Sundar

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, Lord said:

Perhaps better in hitting and temperament but yeah unnecessary now

 

When Jadeja debuted there were not many options then won us CT 2013 and became a permanent member 

 

No such compulsion here with Sundar

 

Finally after a while he started bowling with drift in the second innings of Afghanistan test.  Now he will back to his fast flat darts. It only hurts his test career

[vvvslaxman]

Fan war has started already

 

 

 

[tapandrun]

The idea is good with Sundar a LH mo batter who can bowl few overs , but the issue is sundar is not the right player. He is not a white-ball batter. And specialist off-spinners are obsolete in white-ball already.

 

What ever he does scoring 35+, bowling full quota of 10 overs is like him punching above his weight for him.

 

TM should ask and try Jaiswal in mo, if nothing it will give him confidence in Odis and if Rohit loses form in Wc he can directly replace him at the top. though this is not going to happen,it would be similar like kolhi that Ind persisted with him till the T20i wc finals.

 

Ind need LH in mo, can/should try padikal/Venky Iyer/Jiswal..etc

 

[govinda]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

I think INdia should experiment with Zeeshan Ansari. These bloody buggers have no included him either in Indian team or in India A team. Harsh Dubey bowling average is 44.00 for 2025/26 season. HE is just econmical.  You can't have someone like him in the middle overs. Today got some lucky wickets. Also in pace deparment Gurapjneet or Prince yadav should have been played in place of prasdham. 

He is not even in india A 50 over side

[tapandrun]

11 hours ago, SecondSlip said:

What will it take for you to admit that Pakistan’s upcoming spinners are better than our upcoming spinners!?

All the pak white-ball spinners looks good with x-factor, Pak cricket has been white-ball oriented for yrs now.

 

Its how you look at it, Ind too have x-factor bowler who can be good too:- Rathi, Fuletra, Shivang, Zeeshan, Vipraj, Puthur, Mandal,shivam, kartikeya but they way back In the picking order most of them are not even selectors radar right now.

 

Pak selection is v.diff to that of Ind, Ind does not pick players with 1-2 games in ipl even with full season of good ipl is not good enough. They have to prove themselves up for 2 season and 1-2 good domestic season as well.

 

Rt. now its the best time to be crkter in Pak ckting system with no substantial domestic record and few wkts/runs in psl can get players Pak cap.

 

Gazi-- Avgs 26 and st 75 in list A is playing odis hs 65 which came in Odis vs Aus

Samad - Avs 33 sr 79 in list A playing as finisher in Odis

Arafat played on dodgy pitches vs b/c level Aus side who does nt know how to play spin much and specially low and turning with such tall batters is not possible unless they play sweep and use the height and the reach. Think Harsh would have had good outing on those pitches too vs such batting line-up Harsh is not white-ball bowler and they picked him in white-ball, issue is in Ind ppl think some1 doing well in ranji will do well in intnl and in all formats which is v.far form truth

Abrar is good but he gets hit often vs good batting side 

 

Pak mostly plays vs b/c level sides and now on dodgy pitches really can not tell if they are really good performances or not. Nawaz was getting Pos awards series after series but in wc he was unable to do much 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 14 by tapandrun

[New guy]

8 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Trashing Iyer doesn’t automatically make me a Kela dewaani.Im an equal opportunity hater here

Exactly, same here. Rahul probably should have been dropped long ago. But that doesnt justify the Iyer hype

[deathmonger]

12 hours ago, SecondSlip said:

What will it take for you to admit that Pakistan’s upcoming spinners are better than our upcoming spinners!?

Problem is they remain "upcoming" forever due to lack of system.

 

Varun C is better than any white ball spinner they have had since Ajmal and he was a very late bloomer.

 

By the time the current batch of Indian bowlers are done - pace/spin a new batch will come up. Plus Kuldeep is only 31 and he is way better than any Pakistani spinner.

[deathmonger]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

All the pak white-ball spinners looks good with x-factor, Pak cricket has been white-ball oriented for yrs now.

 

Its how you look at it, Ind too have x-factor bowler who can be good too:- Rathi, Fuletra, Shivang, Zeeshan, Vipraj, Puthur, Mandal,shivam, kartikeya but they way back In the picking order most of them are not even selectors radar right now.

 

Pak selection is v.diff to that of Ind, Ind does not pick players with 1-2 games in ipl even with full season of good ipl is not good enough. They have to prove themselves up for 2 season and 1-2 good domestic season as well.

 

Rt. now its the best time to be crkter in Pak ckting system with no substantial domestic record and few wkts/runs in psl can get players Pak cap.

 

Gazi-- Avgs 26 and st 75 in list A is playing odis hs 65 which came in Odis vs Aus

Samad - Avs 33 sr 79 in list A playing as finisher in Odis

Arafat played on dodgy pitches vs b/c level Aus side who does nt know how to play spin much and specially low and turning with such tall batters is not possible unless they play sweep and use the height and the reach. Think Harsh would have had good outing on those pitches too vs such batting line-up Harsh is not white-ball bowler and they picked him in white-ball, issue is in Ind ppl think some1 doing well in ranji will do well in intnl and in all formats which is v.far form truth

Abrar is good but he gets hit often vs good batting side 

 

Pak mostly plays vs b/c level sides and now on dodgy pitches really can not tell if they are really good performances or not. Nawaz was getting Pos awards series after series but in wc he was unable to do much 

 

 

 

 

Kuldeep/Varun still better than Nawaz/Shadab/Abrar etc

[deathmonger]

7 hours ago, Gollum said:

Enough time till 28 LA. I think T20 team will sort itself by then, including captain. 

 

I hold Bombay lobby responsible for this stupid decision. 

till 27 world cup it is basically similar to the post 24 wc-25ct era where tilak/abhishek became part of the main team and varun returned. by 27 odi wc, the 2028 t20 team will take shape.

[tapandrun]

2 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

Kuldeep/Varun still better than Nawaz/Shadab/Abrar etc

Not a comparison here , shadab is not even intnl level anymore, Nawaz could only fe fringe player in most of the sides.

 

Abrar is good but is he good vs top batting line-ups ??

[deathmonger]

5 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Not a comparison here , shadab is not even intnl level anymore, Nawaz could only fe fringe player in most of the sides.

 

Abrar is good but is he good vs top batting line-ups ??

Abrar has been hit by India many times.

[Tillu]

Rahul's free flowing strokeplay yesterday was a result of Ishan Kishan breathing down his neck for his spot.

[vvvslaxman]

27 minutes ago, Tillu said:

Rahul's free flowing strokeplay yesterday was a result of Ishan Kishan breathing down his neck for his spot.

There are a lot of sub plots in each innings.  This is visible even in A games. Not giving enough balls to face for their competition is one common thing.

[Tillu]

26 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

There are a lot of sub plots in each innings.  This is visible even in A games. Not giving enough balls to face for their competition is one common thing.

 

Everytime Gambhir wants to set someone right, he's giving the gloves to Kishan. First time it happened with Sanju and now KL.