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Posted
4 minutes ago, Manucrick said:

Brook Buttler Duckett Bethell those players bat at 150 strike rate easily who do we have Rohit may score 30 runs from 20 balls then get out Virat and Gill play run a ball mostly Iyer will easily get out then Kela you cant even trust that guy Washington at 7 this is not an attacking team Bumrah needs to do most of the work

 

Cricinfo rightly said...Indian bowling is BOOM or bust.

Posted
1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

Cricinfo rightly said...Indian bowling is BOOM or bust.

Hope gurnoor do something 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Manucrick said:

Brook Buttler Duckett Bethell those players bat at 150 strike rate easily who do we have Rohit may score 30 runs from 20 balls then get out Virat and Gill play run a ball mostly Iyer will easily get out then Kela you cant even trust that guy Washington at 7 this is not an attacking team Bumrah needs to do most of the work

 

Where are you getting 150 SR from.  Duckett is as much hit and miss as any Indian t20 batsman This is the same putrid England team which failed  in last world cup and CT.

 

 

 

Indian top five are just fine including Iyer.Gill is better organized captain than Iyer and you will see the difference.

Posted
2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Where are you getting 150 SR from.  Duckett is as much hit and miss as any Indian t20 batsman This is the same putrid England team which failed  in last world cup and CT.

 

 

 

Indian top five are just fine including Iyer.Gill is better organized captain than Iyer and you will see the difference.

But don't think we can chase 300 nz beat us easily in India 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Manucrick said:

But don't think we can chase 300 nz beat us easily in India 

Well we will see how it goes but it won't be due to lack of quality batsmen or inability to handle bounce.

Posted
2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Why is Kuldeep not part of the odi squad. I know he stinks under pressure but he is better spinner than Axar and Sundar.

 

 

He is

Kuldeep, Washy & Axar are 3 spinners

Gurnoor, Bumrah, Prasidh, Prince & Arsh as 5 pacers.

 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

He is

Kuldeep, Washy & Axar are 3 spinners

Gurnoor, Bumrah, Prasidh, Prince & Arsh as 5 pacers.

 

 

Oh I did not see Kuldeep's name then bowling wise we should be okay with Kuldeep and Bumrah.Brar , Prasidh with Axar/Sundar is very good bowling attack.

Posted
4 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Edgbaston is a belter bro...like often it is in whiteball.  Even in Tests the pitch is usually flat.

 

Lord's these days is low scoring across formats.

 

Cardiff yes a D/N game so will have to see.  The side boundary is big while straight one is smaller.

You gotta adjust with it well enough.

 

The real belter venues for ODI cricket in England historically have been The Oval, Southampton and Trent Bridge, where you can sometimes have huge successful chases, even 350+.  

 

https://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;host=1;innings_number=2;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

 

Those 2nd innings high scores are consistently seen at those 3 venues most. 

 

Lords last year had SA vs England which was a 330 vs 325 pitch which was on the higher side and similar to our 326 chase - rare for Lords , I must say. 

 

Birmingham has only seen 2 2nd innings scores above 300, even.

 

Yeah it depends on the individual pitches we get.   But , it will be historically, the flattest wicket in Edgbaston if we get a 350 vs 350 wicket there. 

 

 

 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

The real belter venues for ODI cricket in England historically have been The Oval, Southampton and Trent Bridge, where you can sometimes have huge successful chases, even 350+.  

 

https://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;host=1;innings_number=2;orderby=team_score;template=results;type=team;view=innings

 

Those 2nd innings high scores are consistently seen at those 3 venues most. 

 

Lords last year had SA vs England which was a 330 vs 325 pitch which was on the higher side and similar to our 326 chase - rare for Lords , I must say. 

 

Birmingham has only seen 2 2nd innings scores above 300, even.

 

Yeah it depends on the individual pitches we get.   But , it will be historically, the flattest wicket in Edgbaston if we get a 350 vs 350 wicket there. 

 

 

 

 

My idea is due to heat wave the pitches are much harder this time than usually the softer ones we get in England... Morgan suggested the same.

They might still be good for batting but there will be sometime extra for Pacers who bend their backs and hit the deck hard

Posted
5 hours ago, tweaker said:

 

India's updated squad for England ODIs: Shubman Gill (Captain), Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, Shreyas Iyer (Vice-Captain), KL Rahul (WK), Ishan Kishan (WK), Washington Sundar, Axar Patel, Shivam Dube, Kuldeep Yadav, Jasprit Bumrah, Prasidh Krishna, Arshdeep Singh, Gurnoor Brar, Prince Yadav

We are a batsman short, fast bowling is good with Bumrah, Brar and Prasidh (he is a decent odi bowler) spin bowling well it is what it is 

Posted (edited)

The all rounders appear to be the weak link unless they pick up their game. 
 

Looking at the squad. I would try to play as many specialists as possible without worrying about having too many (potentially bad) options on field and batting depth till 8-9 on paper.

Edited by zen
Posted
20 hours ago, Chaos said:

You can already see huge upgrade in bowling department with inclusion of boom!. Now watch these third rate bowlers pick up wickets from all the pressure built by boom and they will thump their chests as if they won india the game :hysterical:

I will be keenly watching how Gurnoor bowls here.. he should get good guidance from Boom too..

He has got pace,movement and bounce..

English batters will attack him..so how he responds to tgat agression will let us know his future prospects..

Posted
14 hours ago, zen said:

The all rounders appear to be the weak link unless they pick up their game. 
 

Looking at the squad. I would try to play as many specialists as possible without worrying about having too many (potentially bad) options on field and batting depth till 8-9 on paper.

Our ARs are poorer than some of the associate nations AR sometimes

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