CSK Fan Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 he is another medium pacer' date='saw him bowling today,speed is no special[/quote'] Actually he was quite nippy. The wicket of Kanvilkar was largely because he was beaten for pace. The speed guns look faulty
jusarrived Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Despite the success, Mithun knows the coming season will be more difficult. “If you see, in last three seasons, new pacers have come and gotten wickets but as they go into the second season, teams start reading them better. I don’t want this to happen to me. I want to improve myself in many aspects.” this is something which impressed me from the interview http://www.indianexpress.com/news/after-a-dream-debut-mithun-hopes-to-develop-new-skills/566240/2
Ram Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I think there's enough raw materials to be a potential India player. Its only a matter of time before he gets his break.
Fontaine Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 MM thanks very much for your in depth analysis on Mithun. Much appreciated. Since you have seen him bowl can you let me know the answer to one burning question I've had regarding him? Does he hit the deck hard? Bowling quick is great, and yes a bigger physique helps but really only because it generates quicker rotation of the arm. It's been proven that in order to bowl fast the biggest factor is the speed and length of the arc of rotation of the bowling arm. You can be thinly built but if you have long arms and move the arm from knee to bowling and releasing quickly then you generate greater speed. Brute strength has more to do with hitting the deck hard. Does Mithun do this? In my opinion its a very under rated quality in fast bowling. Bowlers who hit the deck hard like Freddie can absolutely hurry the batsmen even at 140 kph because the ball hurries onto to them. No current capped Indian bowler does this consistently in my opinion. Although Tyagi is very intriguing. He's very young and very inexperienced but I've been impressed with his bowling so far.
The Outsider Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 shwetabh you gutless moron' date=' you are making fun of other people by posting their pics & calling them pansy, post your pic and then talk about how others look like, 14,000 odd posts does'nt mean that you are too cool here :winky:[/quote'] Huh? Who stole your goat? Is it the first or last time some cricketer is being made fun of? There is an entire "Caption this" thread! PS : I've posted my pic multiple times here.
Ram Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 MM thanks very much for your in depth analysis on Mithun. Much appreciated. Since you have seen him bowl can you let me know the answer to one burning question I've had regarding him? Does he hit the deck hard? Bowling quick is great, and yes a bigger physique helps but really only because it generates quicker rotation of the arm. It's been proven that in order to bowl fast the biggest factor is the speed and length of the arc of rotation of the bowling arm. You can be thinly built but if you have long arms and move the arm from knee to bowling and releasing quickly then you generate greater speed. Brute strength has more to do with hitting the deck hard. Does Mithun do this? In my opinion its a very under rated quality in fast bowling. Bowlers who hit the deck hard like Freddie can absolutely hurry the batsmen even at 140 kph because the ball hurries onto to them. No current capped Indian bowler does this consistently in my opinion. Although Tyagi is very intriguing. He's very young and very inexperienced but I've been impressed with his bowling so far. Frankly, its quite hard to tell. It is sort of hard for me to answer specific questions on his bowling because even I have seen him bowl only a handful of overs. In terms of hitting the pitch hard, I did not see any of deliveries explicitly thudding into the keepers' gloves, but nor did I see any die down on their way to the keeper either. He got the same amount of bounce (maybe a fraction more) as someone like Agarkar or Kulkarni did. And here's few more things that I missed about in my earlier posts about him; He has a very good release and ball comes out of his hand with the seam almost bolt upright, which is a very good sign. And he does make the ball move, both in the air and off the pitch (mainly into the left-handers though). Earlier, I had mention that he does not have rhythmic action. I think I'd like to do a slight retraction as that. Sure, he isnt silky smooth as a Bond, Donald or an Agarkar, but his action is quite co-ordinated, which he means he should be able to reproduce it every single ball without trouble. That probably explains why he bowls very few loose balls. I'd like to repeat again, for someone's who just 20, he does have very good control. You made an interesting point about the length of the arc of the bowling arm. Since he seems to have an unusually long span, even though he's around 6'2, 6'3, I think he probably has the release of a 6'4 bowler, which also gives him some extra advantage.
King Tendulkar Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I have never seen him play but I have a feeling he is going to be another one of those 130 trunders to add to our already massive list of 130kmph sepcialists:haha:
Fontaine Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Frankly, its quite hard to tell. It is sort of hard for me to answer specific questions on his bowling because even I have seen him bowl only a handful of overs. In terms of hitting the pitch hard, I did not see any of deliveries explicitly thudding into the keepers' gloves, but nor did I see any die down on their way to the keeper either. He got the same amount of bounce (maybe a fraction more) as someone like Agarkar or Kulkarni did. And here's few more things that I missed about in my earlier posts about him; He has a very good release and ball comes out of his hand with the seam almost bolt upright, which is a very good sign. And he does make the ball move, both in the air and off the pitch (mainly into the left-handers though). Earlier, I had mention that he does not have rhythmic action. I think I'd like to do a slight retraction as that. Sure, he isnt silky smooth as a Bond, Donald or an Agarkar, but his action is quite co-ordinated, which he means he should be able to reproduce it every single ball without trouble. That probably explains why he bowls very few loose balls. I'd like to repeat again, for someone's who just 20, he does have very good control. You made an interesting point about the length of the arc of the bowling arm. Since he seems to have an unusually long span, even though he's around 6'2, 6'3, I think he probably has the release of a 6'4 bowler, which also gives him some extra advantage. Thanks, sure a longer wingspan does help but so will developing the shoulder and back muscles to push that arm quicker through rotation. Kulkarni, Tyagi, Mithun and Sharma are guys that could hold the key to our long term test success. I hope these guys can see a lot of tour action under the India A teams because it's a great way to prepare for internation duties away from the limelight and pressure of media/country scrutiny. I think that's one way to really help the young bowlers. I wonder how many A tours and so on are on schedule this season?
Lord Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Doubters should look at the punjab kabbadi team as an example of power strength! When they play team from other regions its literally like watching men play against boys:haha: Its a shame punjabis are more intrested in drinking, chasing women, fighting and hockey or we would have a conveyor belt of pacers:haha: where did u get that part from?:WTF:
vvvslaxman Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Imagine Tony Greig saying his first name :hysterical:
Lord Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Hes not 140+ as some of floks said here.but hes nippy.has a clean action.defintely looks an international class bowler Imagine Tony Greig saying his first name Aebhiman- you Mitoooonnnnnnnn
coffee_rules Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I have never seen him play but I have a feeling he is going to be another one of those 130 trunders to add to our already massive list of 130kmph sepcialists:haha: How can you tell if you haven't see him?
CSK Fan Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 How can you tell if you haven't see him? KT bases his liking of a player on the number of times he has been involved in controversies( read pseudo - agressiveness) and not on actual performances
fineleg Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 KT bases his liking of a player on the number of times he has been involved in controversies( read pseudo - agressiveness) and not on actual performances yhh bhajji :haha:
jusarrived Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 his action has completely changed from the IPL match i saw him ..now its a lot more smooth & a open chested , which was not the case earlier .
Guest NeutralCricket Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Congrats Mithun - Top Wicket Taker 2009/10 RANJI SEASON Hearty congragulation to Mithun,20 years, becoming the TOP wicket taker of His country in his First season.He bowled whole heartedly throuhout and especially in FINAL. Also Congarts to vinay who was Leading wicket taker Through out Season but conceded lead in last innings (Mithun 47,Vinay 46). Thanks for reviving karnatakas fortunes i Domestic season..which was in cold storage Most of years in last decade. *Lets Hope these 2 share new ball for RCB in IPL 3. we can see whether Mithun can cope ineternational level compettion in march.
rkt.india Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 his action has completely changed from the IPL match i saw him ..now its a lot more smooth & a open chested ' date=' which was not the case earlier .[/quote'] any videos available?
saneindian Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 More than the IPL, Mithun will get a chance to do well in DUlepp trophy first and then perhaps for the toru game against SA as well. Will be interesting to see how he bowls in those matches.Hopefully he can keep doing well.
Guest NeutralCricket Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I agree with IPL part..but as a RCB fan we need Better bowlers. Duleep trophy wont make much diffrence if they played in dead tracks..SA tour game will definitely Help
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