Is Ashwin the genuine all rounder we are looking for?

[Temujin Khaghan]

Whether he likes it or not it is going tag along him. He should stay as Stuart Broad' date=' Vettori, Bhajji. Even Kumble has got a 100. But never considered himself as an all rounder. He focused mainly on bowling. Hope Ashwin does the same.[/quote'] Ashwin is a proper batsman. even gavaskar praised his mindset and shot making ability... he is far superior to all those names above.. not just by talent but the way he thinks about himself. he doesnt play like a bowler and try to make some quick runs.

[MCcricket]

Ashwin is a technically sound gifted bat who had improved on his shortcomings successfully unlike Raina ie short balls, he is more successful in test because he has the game for it and is not a hack, I want him to score a 50 in odi.

[saneindian]

I hope you are still here when we win the series in SA :isalute:

Hum hain wahin, hum the jahaan... :isalute:

[jusarrived]

Whether he likes it or not it is going tag along him. He should stay as Stuart Broad' date=' Vettori, Bhajji. Even Kumble has got a 100. But never considered himself as an all rounder. He focused mainly on bowling. Hope Ashwin does the same.[/quote'] But the problem is , he a lot better bat than the likes of Stuart Broad, Vettori or Bhajji. if he keeps scoring , eventually the team will be forced to move him up the order . I can see him batting in the top6 at some point in his career

[Yoda-esque]

As long as he doesnt become a Hapheej

[Laaloo]

His primarily job is to be a bowler. We have 7 other batsman to score runs for us. It's useless if he doesnt pick up any wickets or get important breakthroughs but chips in with a 30-40.

[vvvslaxman]

His primarily job is to be a bowler. We have 7 other batsman to score runs for us. It's useless if he doesnt pick up any wickets or get important breakthroughs but chips in with a 30-40.

If he chips in with 100s would you keep him :cantstop: . Frankly he is better than most of our top order batsmen. Unless you have a spinner that is completely in a different league from Ashwin we have to persist with him as he has a sharp cricketing brain. Frankly i don't see any offie better than him.

[jusarrived]

His primarily job is to be a bowler. We have 7 other batsman to score runs for us. It's useless if he doesnt pick up any wickets or get important breakthroughs but chips in with a 30-40.

What if he scores few more hundreds ? Gives us an option of playing one more bowler ...its not such a bad thing imo .

[deathmonger]

Ashwin is a technically sound gifted bat who had improved on his shortcomings successfully unlike Raina ie short balls' date=' he is more successful in test because he has the game for it and is not a hack, I want him to score a 50 in odi.[/quote'] Odi 50 is unimportant and also difficult. Unimportant coz our ODI lineup is pretty good and usually bats out 50 overs and difficult coz Ashwin comes in late so can hardly score 50.

[jusarrived]

If he chips in with 100s would you keep him :cantstop: . Frankly he is better than most of our top order batsmen. Unless you have a spinner that is completely in a different league from Ashwin we have to persist with him as he has a sharp cricketing brain. Frankly i don't see any offie better than him.

For me the only question is , can he get big hundreds ? Thats normally the difference between a top order bat and lower order batsmen . He has the technique to score overseas , but in India you need to score big to win test matches .

[jusarrived]

Odi 50 is unimportant and also difficult. Unimportant coz our ODI lineup is pretty good and usually bats out 50 overs and difficult coz Ashwin comes in late so can hardly score 50.

He wont be very useful in ODIs . Lacks the big shots . Jadeja has more attacking shots than Ashwin .

[rkt.india]

He wont be very useful in ODIs . Lacks the big shots . Jadeja has more attacking shots than Ashwin .

He showed all his big shots against RR in SF against the likes of Faulkner, Watson etc. He has improved that aspect of his game scored 46 of 28 balls with 3 sixes that surprised everyone and first time we saw Ashwin bat like that.

[Temujin Khaghan]

If he chips in with 100s would you keep him :cantstop: . Frankly he is better than most of our top order batsmen. Unless you have a spinner that is completely in a different league from Ashwin we have to persist with him as he has a sharp cricketing brain. Frankly i don't see any offie better than him.

if its test cricket you are talking about then jadeja will go not ashwin in odis ... yes ashwin might have to go out for the better spinner and jadeja stays

[Temujin Khaghan]

anyways this should be our starting lineup in saffer test series dhawan murali pujara kohli rohit dhoni ashwin jadeja/ umesh zaheer bhuvi shami the weakest link is vijay our weakest bowler will be jadeja/umesh far better than ishanth... our lower middle order is solid with dhoni + ashwin + jadeja best thing is that rohit wont be shipwrecked with the tail like laxman on previous occassions... there is good chance for rohit to score centuries with this support if everything goes fine we should win 15+ in our next 25 tests with 5 losses and 5 draws

[vvvslaxman]

if its test cricket you are talking about then jadeja will go not ashwin in odis ... yes ashwin might have to go out for the better spinner and jadeja stays

Jadeja's darts may not work in all places. There may be pitches where Ashwin is capable of outbowling jadeja. Jadeja sure has a slight edge there. But only slight.

[Lord]

He showed all his big shots against RR in SF against the likes of Faulkner' date=' Watson etc. He has improved that aspect of his game scored 46 of 28 balls with 3 sixes that surprised everyone and first time we saw Ashwin bat like that.[/quote'] It was a one off atm,as you said it came as a surprise.Hes got to do it more often to prove he can do it. even Jaddu has played 1-2 stabilising innings but is more suited to hitting

[rajkanwar321]

:hmmm: True.

But the real question is can he bat when team is 50-5 in overcast conditions on a green and bouncy wicket in fourth innings when team is chasing against quality bowling line up.:--D

[deathmonger]

anyways this should be our starting lineup in saffer test series dhawan murali pujara kohli rohit dhoni ashwin jadeja/ umesh zaheer bhuvi shami the weakest link is vijay our weakest bowler will be jadeja/umesh far better than ishanth... our lower middle order is solid with dhoni + ashwin + jadeja best thing is that rohit wont be shipwrecked with the tail like laxman on previous occassions... there is good chance for rohit to score centuries with this support if everything goes fine we should win 15+ in our next 25 tests with 5 losses and 5 draws

I'd play an extra batsman in away tours as runs are a lot more valuable and harder to come by abroad. No need of four pacemen, three is enough. HOME/SL/WI - Dhawan Vijay Pujara Kohli Rohit Dhoni Jadeja Ashwin Zaheer/Umesh (for reverse) Shami Ojha AWAY (SA/ENG/NZ/OZ) Dhawan Vijay Pujara Kohli Rohit Rahane Dhoni Ashwin Bhuvi (Helpful conditions + Shorter tail) Zaheer/Umesh Shami

[Holysmoke]

More than 400 replies to a thread that can be narrowed down to a word. No.

[King Tendulkar]

I dont think there is question mark anymore Ashwin is a genuine test all rounder. His batting oozes class, just so elegant and seems to have so much time to play the shots. VVS like. Those two pull shots he just played were classy, so much ease. Genuine test all rounder, we are very lucky to have him