Iconoclast Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 No ... India would be better off with J1 as an extra spinner/batsman
sarcastic Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 No ... India would be better off with J1 as an extra spinner/batsman :two_thumbs_up:
Dravid_TheWall Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Australian tracks would be flat with good bounce. Normal deliveries of Johnson would be above waist and higher for Raina. So no. He shouldn't play there. MSD will enjoy batting there as there won't be much swing like Eng and he plays pull/hook well. Pujara or Kohli should get chance. Most our test batsmen play bounce pretty well. Laxman especially regardless of his excellent record v Aus. We struggled in England due to lateral movement.
Trichromatic Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 What about playing spin? The way Raina played Swann in tests was absolutely horrible. I have never seen an Indian batsman struggling against an average spinner who is getting thrashed by other batsmen. Overall Raina is not a test material.
Dravid_TheWall Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 What about playing spin? The way Raina played Swann in tests was absolutely horrible. I have never seen an Indian batsman struggling against an average spinner who is getting thrashed by other batsmen. Overall Raina is not a test material. I agree regarding Raina as a test batsmen full stop. I felt sorry for the guy in England. He tried hard, good fielder, bowled tight when required but simply doesn't have the test technique. The no6 position has been troublesome since Ganguly left. Ganguly may not have been a great test batsmen but he knew his game and what it took to make a sizeable contribution at no6. Plus he was the leader. Pujara is a more higher middle order batsmen but for now he should be at 6.
gs Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Raina is not fit for tests outside the sub continent at the moment. But in the sub continent he can be a terriffic no. 6. And hopefully with some experience he maybe able to adapt to away from home conditions as well which we would badly need once the big-old guns retire.
Trichromatic Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Raina is not fit for tests outside the sub continent at the moment. But in the sub continent he can be a terriffic no. 6. And hopefully with some experience he maybe able to adapt to away from home conditions as well which we would badly need once the big-old guns retire. I have doubts on his ability to bat even on turners in sub-continent
gs Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 I have doubts on his ability to bat even on turners in sub-continent I think he has done reasonably well in the few chances that he has had at home as well as the WI. He's still young, has definite potential and great work ethic/attitude. So I wouldnt write him off yet.
Karan114 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Absolutely not. Rahane, Kohli or Rohit deserve to play ahead of him. He needs to play more first class cricket. Starting with the ranji matches from 3rd Nov, he should be able to play the first 3 rounds and the last 2 rounds (missing the 2 rounds of matches due to WI ODIs) thats a total of 5 matches and hopefully more in the knock out rounds before he goes for the Aus ODI series. He still has age on his side and the only way he will improve his batting technique is by playing more first class games. This would be most sensible - he really needs some solid, uninterrupted FC cricket to learn how to bat for long periods of time, rather than flay the bowling all the time, as his role as a middle-order ODI batsman demands. He only has eight FC hundreds (including one in Tests) from 113 innings despite making 39 scores of 50+, which says it all.
The Outsider Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 if raina and yuvraj get picked for another test, i am going to cry. Absolutely. It is going to be a huge disappointment if either of these inept players are brought into the test side. But it's inevitable that it will happen - Yuvraj is almost certain to get a spot(in the name of experience - yes experience of being mediocre in test matches for close to a decade) and Raina might get in as well. Raina has a chink in his armour as far as test batting is concerned Chink in armor? Pehle armor to ho, tabhi chink banega - guy should be kept in a different city from where any test match is going on.
hiha Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 rohit , pujara r flat track bullies.... i sont mind 2 give them oppurtunity in tests, play them in australian pitches nd truth will come out + another humiliation
Yoda-esque Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 rohit , pujara r flat track bullies.... i sont mind 2 give them oppurtunity in tests, play them in australian pitches nd truth will come out + another humiliation At least give them a chance. Raina is a walking wkt on bouncy pitches.
Trichromatic Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 rohit , pujara r flat track bullies.... i sont mind 2 give them oppurtunity in tests, play them in australian pitches nd truth will come out + another humiliation Australian pitches are also flat.
maniac Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Looks like discussion over...Curtains for Mr.Raina.....Raina dropped according to the 1st test squad posted...If he is not getting a chance here then definetely not going to Aus. But again never say never
Laaloo Posted October 28, 2011 Posted October 28, 2011 Yuvraj again! :wall: Have a feeling that Dhoni will choose him over Kohli because of his bowling :mad:
Sir john Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Raina: Seniors in team know my worth Even skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni drew some flak for giving him a long rope but the Uttar Pradesh-lad has taken everything chin-up and has told critics to see his batting record. "Critics can say a lot of things but I know that I have tried to perform the role assigned to me with utmost sincerity. People can say whatever they like but the senior members of the Indian team know my worth and that is what is important for me," Raina told PTI in an interview. Asked about his weakness against short-pitched bowling, the 25-year-old replied that he is working hard to regain his place in the Test side and will go to Australia for a personal training stint. "After the IPL is over, I will take a month's break and then start training again. In fact, I plan to go to Australia accompanied by current Chennai Super Kings physio Tom Simsek for an extensive fitness program. If possible, I might play a few club matches in order to get some good match practice on bouncy pitches," Raina said. The youngster feels that before critcising him, experts should carefully analyse the position where he bats. "The kind of depth we have in our batting, I normally come out to bat in the 38th or the 40th over. That is the most crucial phase for the batting team where you need to step up the run-rate." Raina, who is now the 'seniormost member of the youth brigade', said that save skipper Dhoni and Yuvraj Singh, he has "won the maximum matches for India batting at No 6 or 7." "Just check the records. Only MS and Yuvraj have won more matches than me in recent times batting at No 6 or 7. I played two important knocks in the World Cup (34 no against Australia in quarterfinal and 36 no against Pakistan in semi-final). I have been playing well for the past few matches and I hope that I would continue to do well in the coming matches also." "Irrespective of whether you are batting first or chasing, you have to go all out and start hitting. It's a difficult job in the ODIs and T20s but I have been performing that duty for quite some time now. You look at Hobart (he scored 40 no in 24 balls) where I had a partnership with Virat," Raina said. Having played last of his 15 Tests against England at the Oval last year, Raina is confident of making a comeback in the five-day fold in near future. Raina's 147-match ODI record is pretty decent having notched up 3525 runs at 34.90 but in Tests he averages 29.58 with 710 runs in 15 outings. "There is competition for a place in the Test squad but now with Rahul Dravid's retirement, one slot has opened up. I would like to score runs and get my spot in the Test squad back." Raina feels that the inclusion of Ravindra Jadeja in the CSK set-up has been a huge boost and they will come all guns blazing at their opponents. "We have a fantastic team. Jadeja's inclusion makes all three departments even more stronger. Also we have a good blend of youth and experience and there is no reason why we can't win the IPL again," he concluded. http://www.espnstar.com/cricket/news/detail/item775916/
Sidhoni Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Good to see he'll be going to Aus to tackle the problem with short-pitched deliveries.
Prakat Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 team player. Has been delivering whenever it was required of him. Wrapped up so many Indian ODI victories with his capable hitting.
deathmonger Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 team player. Has been delivering whenever it was required of him. Wrapped up so many Indian ODI victories with his capable hitting. He along with Yuvi and Dhoni is the best finishing combo in the world.
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