Gunner Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 pathetic shot.drop him Man you change your opinions way too quickly, before that shot you were backing and defending his place and now you want him dropped :beee:
Gunner Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I'd have him ahead of Mishra or Rohit for sure :--D Sure you can have him :winky:
Old guy Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 I'd have him ahead of Mishra or Rohit for sure :--D Yep anyone over rohit :agree:
Lord Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Man you change your opinions way too quickly' date=' before that shot you were backing and defending his place and now you want him dropped :beee:[/quote'] He'll be dropped anyway. Also its better for him to be dropped than being picked and used like Dhoni's using him which hurts team more than him. we still need 5 bowling options.Thats the whole basic idea
Gunner Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 He'll be dropped anyway. Also its better for him to be dropped than being picked and used like Dhoni's using him which hurts team more than him. we still need 5 bowling options.Thats the whole basic idea :agree: With Bhuvan batting the way he is, we can surely afford another pacer. Who do you think should replace him?
Lord Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 :agree: With Bhuvan batting the way he is' date=' we can surely afford another pacer. Who do you think should replace him?[/quote'] Pankaj.or both Pankaj and Pandey and drop Ishant.but that won't happen :((
Texan Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 If Murali Vijay and Shikhar Dhawan are going to get a chance to bowl before Binny, WTF is he doing in the team?
JaiRamesh2 Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 If Murali Vijay and Shikhar Dhawan are going to get a chance to bowl before Binny' date=' WTF is he doing in the team?[/quote'] :hysterical: Binny's papa must be feeling pretty annoyed at Dhoni. :hysterical:
beetle Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Dhoni is making sure there is no more reason to select this guy.He doesn't even want him to give him a chance.If that is the case...Dhoni is fully justified in doing so.If there is pressure on him to select him...then this is the only way to keep him out.
Laaloo Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Dhoni is making sure there is no more reason to select this guy.He doesn't even want him to give him a chance.If that is the case...Dhoni is fully justified in doing so.If there is pressure on him to select him...then this is the only way to keep him out. That's retarded. That is unfair pressure on the likes of Bhuvi, IShant and Shami. You can't do that. There is no justification in doing this. I am sorry.
beetle Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 That's retarded. That is unfair pressure on the likes of Bhuvi' date=' IShant and Shami. You can't do that. There is no justification in doing this. I am sorry.[/quote'] true... atleast in next match we will have a better option...this selector's son out of the way.
vvvslaxman Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 true... atleast in next match we will have a better option...this selector's son out of the way. Bhuvaneswar is already worn out.. That is the price we pay for this strategy of proving a point to someone.
Lord Posted July 20, 2014 Posted July 20, 2014 Dhoni is making sure there is no more reason to select this guy.He doesn't even want him to give him a chance.If that is the case...Dhoni is fully justified in doing so.If there is pressure on him to select him...then this is the only way to keep him out. Who the hell can pressurise him when he's got Srini's backing?Thats not believable. Also once you select someone,you have to give him fair chance.You can't screw the team's chances in trying to screw someone's career,however bad he is.
rkt.india Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Who the hell can pressurise him when he's got Srini's backing?Thats not believable. Also once you select someone,you have to give him fair chance.You can't screw the team's chances in trying to screw someone's career,however bad he is. That is a ridiculous allegation. Binny batted ahead of Jaddu in 2nd inning which shows there is no intent like that. Dhoni knows he is not much of a bowler and cannot be used ahead of main 4 bowlers. He uses him only when those 4 have been ineffective. Guy barely bowled much even of Karnataka, only 138 overs last season in 6 games, 20 overs per game with 11 wickets. He is not going to bowl more than 5-10 and and will score if it is a high scoring ground or patta. Dhoni knows only his main bowlers have get him wickets, not Binny.
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 That is a ridiculous allegation. Binny batted ahead of Jaddu in 2nd inning which shows there is no intent like that. Dhoni knows he is not much of a bowler and cannot be used ahead of main 4 bowlers. He uses him only when those 4 have been ineffective. Guy barely bowled much even of Karnataka' date= only 138 overs last season in 6 games, 20 overs per game with 11 wickets. He is not going to bowl more than 5-10 and and will score if it is a high scoring ground or patta. Dhoni knows only his main bowlers have get him wickets, not Binny. I am going to apply the same logic for Dhoni's non use of Bhuvan and Umesh in NZ nd SA. Probably Dhoni thought Umesh is not much of a useful bowle. So we have to stop crying every time Umesh is left out. In oveer head conditions how can he trust Murali Vijay not Stuart Binny.
suraj Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 hope this is Stuart Binny's last test ever for India= one of the worst selections ever
undisputed chap Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I would rather have gambhir/ saha in binnis place & have vj bowl. Must remember dhawan & kohli are not in form & dhoni is a hack. Better strengthen our strong but collapse prone batting.
rkt.india Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 I am going to apply the same logic for Dhoni's non use of Bhuvan and Umesh in NZ nd SA. Probably Dhoni thought Umesh is not much of a useful bowle. So we have to stop crying every time Umesh is left out. In oveer head conditions how can he trust Murali Vijay not Stuart Binny. You could have if they had played but they did not even play, so that does not apply to them. In NZ, we had Zak the most experienced bowler so he could not have been dropped if he was in the team, Ishant who took 5-fers in both the tests and Shami was consistently impressive since his debut. The only one he could have replaced was Jadeja with an extra seamer and since Perth, Dhoni has decided not to extra specialist seamer. Binny for me is more of a Ganguly like bowler who will bowl here and there. Umesh must have been played against WI in place of BK at home to have him any chance to play test in SA or NZ. He used Vijay because ball was turning though ridiculous move bowling a spinner with new ball that is how Dhoni has been. He has more trust on part timer spinners than pacers. He used to bring Suresh Raina in 12th over in NZ ODIs when they were 2 down for 50 odd and let the game drift. There he rarely bowled his pacers between 12-30 overs and will bring them when two batsmen are set and PP overs looming to get thrashed.
vvvslaxman Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 You could have if they had played but they did not even play' date=' so that does not apply to them. In NZ, we had Zak the most experienced bowler so he could not have been dropped if he was in the team, Ishant who took 5-fers in both the tests and Shami was consistently impressive since his debut. The only one he could have replaced was Jadeja with an extra seamer and since Perth, Dhoni has decided not to extra specialist seamer.[b'] Binny for me is more of a Ganguly like bowler who will bowl here and there. Umesh must have been played against WI in place of BK at home to have him any chance to play test in SA or NZ. He used Vijay because ball was turning though ridiculous move bowling a spinner with new ball that is how Dhoni has been. He has more trust on part timer spinners than pacers. He used to bring Suresh Raina in 12th over in NZ ODIs when they were 2 down for 50 odd and let the game drift. There he rarely bowled his pacers between 12-30 overs and will bring them when two batsmen are set and PP overs looming to get thrashed. Most yestseryear captins would use Ganguly much like a specialist bowler in helpful conditions for seamers. It is common sense.Not Rocket science. Even Raina brought Binny as first change in Bangladesh not himself r aKsha o Mishra. But Dhoni would have brooght on Raina and mishra ahead of Binny he may do it deliberately . That is even more condemnable as he hurts the team indirectly. It is Binny, so no big deal losing him. But imagine if he does the same to some bowler with genuine potential.. If you are a captain you can make any player look totally useless. Bring on 40th over.. Drop a catch off of him.. then after that spell then bring him again at 70th over just before new ball.
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