Gollum Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 He is done guys, Dhoni killed his career. By now his confidence must have been shattered, I see him getting only worse from now on. Hate Dhoni, absolutely hate him.
rkt.india Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Thing is that the Australian bowlers got a lot more from the same wicket that the Indians bowled on. You can't expect Yadav to get a Perth wicket everywhere he plays. He's going to get a lot of unhelpful wickets to bowl on and that's where he needs to show how good a bowler he is. Yadav got carted away in the first innings: 1/136 off 26 overs, easily the most expensive in terms of economy rate. He has little else going for him than pace. Go back and see for yourself. It's you who came back with the stupid comment of comparing Perth wicket with Adelaide one when I pointed out how South Africa batted well in Perth but not as much in Adelaide. By your logic, Perth is a better batting wicket. So maybe you would be wasting time debating about something you don't seem to understand much about. Yadav averages 27 on flat tracks in India in 5 tests he has played. He will only get better if he plays. Zak is not winning us anything too who has past it. Regarding Adelaide, it is the best batting track in Aus batting first. You are comparing Aus first innings to SA 4th innings at Adelaide.
vvvslaxman Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Hes poor in ODIs but our best bet in Tests.sad to see him not play tests Zak comeback has ruined everything.if he didnt,Yadav would have been playing for sure. Also 2 yrs is an exaggeration,hes missed 4 Tests in SA,NZ since his comeback.B4 that he was injured anyway Yup Zak's return halted our progress big time. We were on our track to identify our future fast bowling combination. Then he came in and screwed up everything.
TNAmarkFrmIndia Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Yadav averages 27 on flat tracks in India in 5 tests he has played. He will only get better if he plays. Zak is not winning us anything too who has past it. I think it's pretty much a given that Yadav's going to play in England. I don't think they're gonna pin their hopes on Zaheer anymore. It'll be his chance to prove himself and be a mainstay in the Indian test bowling line-up.
Gollum Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 I think it's pretty much a given that Yadav's going to play in England. I don't think they're gonna pin their hopes on Zaheer anymore. It'll be his chance to prove himself and be a mainstay in the Indian test bowling line-up. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Dhoni says :hello:
TNAmarkFrmIndia Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Dhoni says :hello: Nah, I think he gave Zaheer the chance to prove himself in seamer-friendly conditions in South Africa and New Zealand and was hoping for him to lead the bowling attack well, but that didn't happen. Remains to be seen though. I don't think he'll persist with him much longer.
maniac Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 He was our best seam bowler before he got injured in the England series and never found his way back:banghead:
SLICKR392 Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 He was our best seam bowler before he got injured in the England series and never found his way back:banghead: Did well in CT and Tri Series.
ThePhenomenal1 Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 if i was running things, umesh would be the first name on the bowling sheet. tests over anything. he will get better the more he plays, poor guy never got a chance and was the only threatening pacer on that Eng 2012 home series, and in the nz 2012 home series. Indian management have robbed me from watching and enjoying his bowling in the indian team
vvvslaxman Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 if i was running things' date=' umesh would be the first name on the bowling sheet. tests over anything. he will get better the more he plays, poor guy never got a chance and was the only threatening pacer on that Eng 2012 home series, and in the nz 2012 home series. Indian management have robbed me from watching and enjoying his bowling in the indian team[/quote'] Over the last decade we got mixed up with one dayers and Tests. Picking players for tests based on One dayers. Umesh's second all time worst economy rate in one dayers definitely played some role in his exclusion. Also Zaheer's return made the matter worse.
maniac Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 It's a repeat of the Srinath-Kapil scenario. Technically Kapil was not holding a spot....somebody had to be the 2nd seam bowler.....I would have had Kapil over Prabhakar anyday.
Magneto Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 Technically Kapil was not holding a spot....somebody had to be the 2nd seam bowler.....I would have had Kapil over Prabhakar anyday. But at the f.a.g end of his career Kapil was just dead wood... at a point we just hoped that he just gets that damned 432nd wicket. Prabhakar was then emerging as a spearhead and was a competent batsman as well.
Yoda-esque Posted March 11, 2014 Posted March 11, 2014 But at the f.a.g end of his career Kapil was just dead wood... at a point we just hoped that he just gets that damned 432nd wicket. Prabhakar was then emerging as a spearhead and was a competent batsman as well. Agree on Kapil but Prabhakar and spear head don't go together in a sentence
Gollum Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 It's a repeat of the Srinath-Kapil scenario. Kapil was still the MVP of the Indian team till as late as 1991-92. Mumbai lobby didn't like him and cut his career short. Like it or not.
gakgupta Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Needs to play domestic cricket in England' date=' Australia or South Africa. Decent test bowler but not necessarily a match-winner. Pace seems to be the only weapon he's got and if you don't know how to use it effectively, it can also be your undoing.[/quote'] LOL......what r u talking about......r u talking about aaron or umesh?? Umesh has every bloody thing a fast bolwer should have... 1) Swings both ways -- primarily bowls out-swing 2) Pace.....I mean real pace 3) Reverse swing 4) Conventional swing 5) Stamina to sustain pace for longer period of time What is lacks is.....captains confidence Yeah......he is out of form right now and spraying all over but..... is he gets half the confidence shown by dhonei on sharma....he would be a match winner by this time
Magneto Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Kapil was still the MVP of the Indian team till as late as 1991-92. Mumbai lobby didn't like him and cut his career short. Like it or not. Haha like it or not, in his last 2 seasons, Kapil picked only 33 wickets in 31 innings. His best bowling performance was 3/35, and six of those 16 Tests were played outside the subcontinent.
Magneto Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Agree on Kapil but Prabhakar and spear head don't go together in a sentence Prabhakar was not a 'spearhead' in the real sense of the word, but he surely picked more wickets than Kapil at that point of time. (1992-1994)
The Outsider Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Haha like it or not' date=' in his last 2 seasons, Kapil picked only 33 wickets in 31 innings. His best bowling performance was 3/35, and six of those 16 Tests were played outside the subcontinent.[/quote'] Like it or not, he averaged 40 with the bat in those tests and 30 with the ball.
putrevus Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Manoj Prabhkar and spearhead should never been in same sentence, Kapil dev bowled more overs than this guy even in the *** end of his career when this guy was in his prime and during 1992-94 Kapil was on par with him as a bowler and as batsman was far better. kapil made one of finest hundreds made by an Indian batsmen in SA against rampaging Allan Donald with one hand. Kapil could have walked into 1992-1994 Indian team just as batsman alone.
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