Lord Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 He has played every odi after sa and he has been ordinary.His average is up to 38.He bowls to contain runs now. pitches in NZ and Asia were some of the flattest for seamers.Couple that wth small grounds In England he'll get assistance and should do well.Even in WT20 he was decent due to early movement in night matches
King Tendulkar Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 pitches in NZ and Asia were some of the flattest for seamers.Couple that wth small grounds In England he'll get assistance and should do well.Even in WT20 he was decent due to early movement in night matches Exactly. Flat pitch trundlers food and drink. Ball not swingning or seaming or stops after new ball then food and drink. Thanks for making point. In these conditions just shows value of fast bowlers, they can deliver on all types of surfaces. Would Australia/England pick a bowler to open bowling in tests were keeper can stand up to him. We just never learn and never get it! Why when we got pummeled in tests with oppos scoring runs at will, why don't we look at alternative plan apart from our trundler philosophy which clearly is not working. Why don't we look at tactics of other good teams, they parachute in any fast bowler and get him in team to develop, no mucking. Siddle ashes hero, axed for SA series for young raw pattison. Windies dominated world cricket with pace. SA pace. Eng obsessed with pace. Everyone obsessed with pace. But us clever Indians have different ideas. I give up!!!! Thick captain, thick managt , thick fans. Good luck with IPL losers!!!
SLICKR392 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Exactly. Flat pitch trundlers food and drink. Ball not swingning or seaming or stops after new ball then food and drink. Thanks for making point. In these conditions just shows value of fast bowlers, they can deliver on all types of surfaces. Would Australia/England pick a bowler to open bowling in tests were keeper can stand up to him. We just never learn and never get it! Why when we got pummeled in tests with oppos scoring runs at will, why don't we look at alternative plan apart from our trundler philosophy which clearly is not working. Why don't we look at tactics of other good teams, they parachute in any fast bowler and get him in team to develop, no mucking. Siddle ashes hero, axed for SA series for young raw pattison. Windies dominated world cricket with pace. SA pace. Eng obsessed with pace. Everyone obsessed with pace. But us clever Indians have different ideas. I give up!!!! Thick captain, thick managt , thick fans. Good luck with IPL losers!!! Thanks. As if you were providing something great to the Indian national Cricket team.
rainy day Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 This is definitely all a bit umm strange. Not accusing Dhoni or the BCCI chief of fixing or anything but its all very very fishy. One of the selectors is a father of a selected player, Captain of the team manages certain players financials as well, BCCI chief owns an IPL team and so much more. I always thought India had a strong media so this is quite shocking to me, the amount of conflict of interest is staggering. I mean it sounds like a giant conspiracy when you read it but its all out in the open and allowed to continue for years !
fineleg Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 This is definitely all a bit umm strange. Not accusing Dhoni or the BCCI chief of fixing or anything but its all very very fishy. One of the selectors is a father of a selected player' date= Captain of the team manages certain players financials as well, BCCI chief owns an IPL team and so much more. I always thought India had a strong media so this is quite shocking to me, the amount of conflict of interest is staggering. I mean it sounds like a giant conspiracy when you read it but its all out in the open and allowed to continue for years ! Media's pockets can get filled with $$$ then they will look the other way. Rhiti = Conflict of interest
King Tendulkar Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 Media's pockets can get filled with $$$ then they will look the other way. Rhiti = Conflict of interest Strange thing is how general indian fan is so apathetic to all this and is also willing to look the other way
CG Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 pitches in NZ and Asia were some of the flattest for seamers.Couple that wth small grounds In England he'll get assistance and should do well.Even in WT20 he was decent due to early movement in night matches It was same for shami and nz bowlers too.U cannot play a guy just on hope.
Mariyam Posted April 11, 2014 Posted April 11, 2014 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Bhuvi fans might go mad Kaunsa Bhuvi? Lagaan wala? :hmmm:
fineleg Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Kaunsa Bhuvi? Lagaan wala? :hmmm: That is Bhuvan, not Bhuvi :--D
Detonator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Kaunsa Bhuvi? Lagaan wala? :hmmm: amir kan is a better captain than dhoni :woot:
maniac Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 amir kan is a better captain than dhoni :woot: He was a Home track bully like Dhoni and a good finisher like him as well,Encouraged spin bowlers like Kachra but as a test cricketer I rate Bhuvan was leagues ahead. Also he won the home series against England :giggle:
undisputed chap Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 He was a Home track bully like Dhoni and a good finisher like him as well,Encouraged spin bowlers like Kachra but as a test cricketer I rate Bhuvan was leagues ahead. Also he won the home series against England :giggle: Also he had a great pacer allrounder who opened the bowling & batting scoring a crucial 49 i. Also we are positively sure he was heterosexual having 2 gfs.
CG Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 pitches in NZ and Asia were some of the flattest for seamers.Couple that wth small grounds In England he'll get assistance and should do well.Even in WT20 he was decent due to early movement in night matches Whats sabby doing in ur avatar.:giggle:
rkt.india Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 sreesanth was 132-137 too and he did well in swinging conditions' date=' i dont see why bhuvi wouldnt either [/quote'] Apart from SA in 2006, Sreesanth has not done anything great, especially in England.
rkt.india Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 he is hardly slow now a days ... 80-82 mph of average speed is certainly slow by international standards.
rkt.india Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 About standing up ...Let's not confuse formats in t20 it's kind of neccecity and dhoni should be praised for his skill to stand up and do well tbh And sreesanth was bowling into 120s in second spell last time he played in England and bhuvi is not replacing him he will replace pk Sreesanth had been replaced by shami and umesh should replace ishant which will not happen Sreeshanth did not do anything great. His fitness levels were shameful for a fast bowler. Only time, he did consistently well was in 2006 SA tour when his pace was up 138-142 K range and swung the ball.
rkt.india Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 PK did well in England last time.No reason why BK' date='whos a better bowler cant do well too[/quote'] Averaging close to 30, SR 60 is not did well in those conditions when ball was swinging so much. He was just average, what we call andho me kana raja which is not good enough to compete.
rkt.india Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 he played a grand total of one ODI there dude.You guys talk about mismanagement of Yadav n Aaron bt quick to pounce on Bhuvi. was decent in NZ too picked 4 wickets at 59. Is this decent?
rkt.india Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 pitches in NZ and Asia were some of the flattest for seamers.Couple that wth small grounds In England he'll get assistance and should do well.Even in WT20 he was decent due to early movement in night matches Ball does not swing all the time even in England and if ball does not swing, those pitches can be rally punishing.
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