Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Jay]

2 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Oliver used to be quite fast , what happened to him?

he was never fast. he was 133-138 type bowler. he occasionally bowled 140 plus. he focuses more on bounce of good lengths. 

[Lord]

Shami is bashed here but he regularly keeps us in the hunt

[Vijy]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

Shami is bashed here but he regularly keeps us in the hunt

Is Shami bashed all that much for his cricket skills? I can see it happening in the past, but not in recent past and present.

[Forward Defence]

Siraj's 3rd over yesterday was brilliant. Pity he got injured.

[express bowling]

Both Bumrah and Siraj bowled lots of balls in the 137 k to 142 k range .... and Shami had lots of deliveries in the 136 k to 139 k range.

 

All our pacers were quicker than SA pacers but got less bounce compared to them except Bumrah.

[express bowling]

19 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Siraj's 3rd over yesterday was brilliant. Pity he got injured.

 

Really loved that over by Siraj. He was really getting into rhythm and bowling with more pace, accuracy and movement. 

 

Hope he is ok today and it was just a case of cramps. 

[Mosher]

21 minutes ago, Forward Defence said:

Siraj's 3rd over yesterday was brilliant. Pity he got injured.

What injury? Hope it's not serious.

[Forward Defence]

29 minutes ago, Mosher said:

What injury? Hope it's not serious.

He was feeling his hamstring region and did not bowl the last ball of his fourth over. 

[rkt.india]

32 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Both Bumrah and Siraj bowled lots of balls in the 137 k to 142 k range .... and Shami had lots of deliveries in the 136 k to 139 k range.

 

All our pacers were quicker than SA pacers but got less bounce compared to them except Bumrah.

SA pacers are all taller. Their shortest pacer is Rabada at around 6'2. Ours don't even cross 6.

[rollingstoned]

6 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

SA pacers are all taller. Their shortest pacer is Rabada at around 6'2. Ours don't even cross 6.

Even in the first match they were getting more of that inconsistent bounce. We didn't get a single wicket in the second innings because of the pitch misbehaving. Elgars was debatable. 

[express bowling]

57 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

SA pacers are all taller. Their shortest pacer is Rabada at around 6'2. Ours don't even cross 6.

 

 

Siraj is around 6'0".  Bumrah is around 5'11" but his arms are so long that his release point is like a 6'1" kind of pacer probably.

 

BUT

 

This brings us to the main issue that we need a U27  6'2" or taller hit-the-deck pacer who can hit top speeds of 145 k+ and get steep bounce. (  Not talking about old and unfit Ishant here  ).  This is really important to make our pace attack more versatile and take wickets when minimal movement is on offer ... by using bounce.

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by express bowling

[Clarke]

Anyone watched Ebadot's performance ? Look forward to the highlights.

[express bowling]

55 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Even in the first match they were getting more of that inconsistent bounce. We didn't get a single wicket in the second innings because of the pitch misbehaving. Elgars was debatable. 

 

 

Most of our pacers try to take wickets by attacking the stumps with skiddy quick deliveries which seam around a bit ( or reverse in Asia ). Bumrah is the only one who uses bounce to get wickets on occasions. ( Shami used some bounce till mid 2021 but not after that )

 

While SA and Australian pacers depend primarily on hitting the deck hard with tall pacers and use bounce to get more than 60% of their wickets.

 

We need a couple of tall bounce bowlers, in our bowling pool,  who can hit top speeds of 145 k+, to make our pace attack more versatile.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by express bowling

[rollingstoned]

38 minutes ago, express bowling said:

This brings us to the main issue that we need a U27  6'2" or taller hit-the-deck pacer who can hit top speeds of 145 k+ and get steep bounce. (  Not talking about old and unfit Ishant here  ).  This is really important to make our pace attack more versatile and take wickets when minimal movement is on offer ... by using bounce.

 

this pretty much describes Prasidh.

[rollingstoned]

33 minutes ago, Clarke said:

Anyone watched Ebadot's performance ? Look forward to the highlights.

consistently reversing the ball at good speeds, it was a long spell to end the day. he came up with the kind of performance that you don't generally get from England and Nzl bowlers ie taking the pitch out of the equation when it isn't doing much.

[Mosher]

Shami hitting the pitch hard and getting some steep bounce. Good first over.

Edited January 4, 2022 by Mosher

[express bowling]

Siraj is injured and just running in a few steps and bowling half heartedly. Just floating the ball up. 

 

Shardul hasn't been bowling fit in the last 10 months either.

 

There goes our chance of winning this test. 

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

this pretty much describes Prasidh.

 

 

Prasidh should be playing for India.

[express bowling]

Shardul has the knack of picking wickets.

 

Despite looking half fit, he has already bagged 3 crucial top order scalps.

 

He is a gutsy cricketer 

 

How I wish he works on his bowling fitness and fitness in general.

 

 

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Siraj is around 6'0".  Bumrah is around 5'11" but his arms are so long that his release point is like a 6'1" kind of pacer probably.

 

BUT

 

This brings us to the main issue that we need a U27  6'2" or taller hit-the-deck pacer who can hit top speeds of 145 k+ and get steep bounce. (  Not talking about old and unfit Ishant here  ).  This is really important to make our pace attack more versatile and take wickets when minimal movement is on offer ... by using bounce.

 

Kartik and Prasidh both are 6'3" and only ones to bowl 140k with any consistency.