SK_IH Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Indian bowling in T20s look highly mediocre even if you add Bumrah in place of any of other 3 seamers currently in the lineup. For all their batting abilities, only one of Chahar or Harshal can be accommodated in the XI. Need more pace considering the event is in Aus. Currently this is a canon fodder attack for Aussie conditions. Plan to play wristys is worth it but the problem once again rears it ugly head when none of the two can bat. ABDfan, Vijy, Lone Wolf and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Vijy Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, SK_IH said: Indian bowling in T20s look highly mediocre even if you add Bumrah in place of any of other 3 seamers currently in the lineup. For all their batting abilities, only one of Chahar or Harshal can be accommodated in the XI. Need more pace considering the event is in Aus. Currently this is a canon fodder attack for Aussie conditions. Plan to play wristys is worth it but the problem once again rears it ugly head when none of the two can bat. bishy can bat a bit, at least in list A express bowling 1 Link to comment
SK_IH Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Vijy said: bishy can bat a bit, at least in list A Bishnoi surely has potential to bat but no hitting ability, this lack of explosives in batting depth is a big handicap. The other handicap is Virat at 3 or combined top 3 of Rahul/Rohit/Virat. India look a really ordinary T20 side. Learnt nothing just rinse & repeat Suhaan and rollingstoned 1 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, SK_IH said: Bishnoi surely has potential to bat but no hitting ability, this lack of explosives in batting depth is a big handicap. The other handicap is Virat at 3 or combined top 3 of Rahul/Rohit/Virat. India look a really ordinary T20 side. Learnt nothing just rinse & repeat Same process isn't going to give different results. Suhaan and SK_IH 2 Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Pace attack is going to get annihilated in Australia. You will bowl cutters & knuckle balls there. They would just smash u everywhere. Can see it from a mile away. express bowling, Mosher and SK_IH 3 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/17/2022 at 5:35 AM, SRT100 said: Whats your thoughts on Bishnoi, first time I have seen him bowl properly and paid attention to him. Seems ok, young spinner with plenty of room to grow and improve. He obviously had a lot of nerves and adrenaline going through him so the wides were expected. The "foul" catch was unfortunate but glad it happens now, so he learns from it in an irrelevant series. How does he bat? What batsman in India is closest like? Like is he an Ashwin in ODI cricket or is he like a good allrounder? He will go up a clear level with a working, decent leg break to go with the stock googly, should work with Kumble or someone on this. In addition his body language and energy on the field are good things to have. express bowling 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: He will go up a clear level with a working, decent leg break to go with the stock googly, should work with Kumble or someone on this. In addition his body language and energy on the field are good things to have. Kumble didn't have a great leg break. With his action, Bishnoi won't have a great leg break too. It's just not possible. And to change things at this point is useless. He is already doing well enough. Can get better with experience. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, rollingstoned said: He will go up a clear level with a working, decent leg break to go with the stock googly, should work with Kumble or someone on this. In addition his body language and energy on the field are good things to have. Rashid Khan bowls googly 90% of the time as well. Bishnoi doesn't need to change much but his angles & add a flipper like Rashid that doesn't turns. SRT100 and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Rashid Khan bowls googly 90% of the time as well. Bishnoi doesn't need to change much but his angles & add a flipper like Rashid that doesn't turns. He has enough already to be a white ball specialist. If not a leg break then a good straighter one would also work. He could be a part of the test side eventually, who knows. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, rollingstoned said: He has enough already to be a white ball specialist. If not a leg break then a good straighter one would also work. He could be a part of the test side eventually, who knows. I am expecting a test call up. Talent is clearly visible. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Performance of Indian Medium Pacers in international T20s in the last 2 years ( till 19.2.22 ) .... Chahar .... Wickets per match .... 0.78 Economy rate .... 9.7 Bhuvi .... Wickets per match .... 1.00 Economy rate .... 6.7 Harshal .... Wickets per match .... 1.5 Economy rate .... 8.9 ---- Chahar has been poor both in terms of wickets taking ability and Economy rate ---- Bhuvi has been poor in terms of wickets taking ability ( especially considering the fact that he has a Wickets per match of 0.82 excluding 3 matches against weak SL ) ---- Bhuvi has a good ER and bowled a great death over in the last game ---- Harshal is expensive too albeit sample size is low. But he is easily hittable and that ER may increase when the novelty factor wears off. ---- Harshal has a good wickets per match ratio but most of his wickets come when batsmen try to hit in the death overs. In a nutshell, none of the medium pacers have justified their inclusion in the team as pure bowlers. So, why pick 3 such medium pacers ???? Why not look for pacers .... .... One pacer who can bowl 90 mph+ with white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer who gets steep bounce and has white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer with batting ability at No.8 and white ball skills too Edited February 20, 2022 by express bowling Mosher, sarchasm and tweaker 1 2 Link to comment
tweaker Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, express bowling said: Performance of Indian Medium Pacers in international T20s in the last 2 years ( till 19.2.22 ) .... Chahar .... Wickets per match .... 0.78 Economy rate .... 9.7 Bhuvi .... Wickets per match .... 1.00 Economy rate .... 6.7 Harshal .... Wickets per match .... 1.5 Economy rate .... 8.9 ---- Chahar has been poor both in terms of wickets taking ability and Economy rate ---- Bhuvi has been poor in terms of wickets taking ability ( especially considering the fact that he has a Wickets per match of 0.82 excluding 3 matches against weak SL ) ---- Bhuvi has a good ER and bowled a great death over in the last game ---- Harshal is expensive too albeit sample size is low. But he is easily hittable and that ER may increase when the novelty factor wears off. ---- Harshal has a good wickets per match ratio but most of his wickets come when batsmen try to hit in the death overs. In a nutshell, none of the medium pacers have justified their inclusion in the team as pure bowlers. So, why pick 3 such medium pacers ???? Why not look for pacers .... .... One pacer who can bowl 90 mph+ with white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer who gets steep bounce and has white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer with batting ability at No.8 and white ball skills too It is too much to expect this from Chetan Sharma and Co.Let them do their job to best of their abilities. express bowling 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Hope Avesh plays in the last T20 express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Jay Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, express bowling said: Performance of Indian Medium Pacers in international T20s in the last 2 years ( till 19.2.22 ) .... Chahar .... Wickets per match .... 0.78 Economy rate .... 9.7 Bhuvi .... Wickets per match .... 1.00 Economy rate .... 6.7 Harshal .... Wickets per match .... 1.5 Economy rate .... 8.9 ---- Chahar has been poor both in terms of wickets taking ability and Economy rate ---- Bhuvi has been poor in terms of wickets taking ability ( especially considering the fact that he has a Wickets per match of 0.82 excluding 3 matches against weak SL ) ---- Bhuvi has a good ER and bowled a great death over in the last game ---- Harshal is expensive too albeit sample size is low. But he is easily hittable and that ER may increase when the novelty factor wears off. ---- Harshal has a good wickets per match ratio but most of his wickets come when batsmen try to hit in the death overs. In a nutshell, none of the medium pacers have justified their inclusion in the team as pure bowlers. So, why pick 3 such medium pacers ???? Why not look for pacers .... .... One pacer who can bowl 90 mph+ with white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer who gets steep bounce and has white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer with batting ability at No.8 and white ball skills too Chahar as 4th or 5th pacer is absolutely perfect. 3rd pacer has to be someone who can bat and get wickets. We have none. 10 and 11 should be premium bowlers. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay said: . 10 and 11 should be premium bowlers. Bhuvi will get in as a strike bowler due to that last over on the 18th of February. But he lacks wicket taking ability and that may affect us adversely in the T20 WC. Edited February 20, 2022 by express bowling Lone Wolf and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 20, 2022 Author Share Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, tweaker said: Hope Avesh plays in the last T20 Avesh must play. We need some pace and bounce in Australia. Edited February 20, 2022 by express bowling tweaker and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Our team balance will never be good. Lets say if we play two proper pacers, we obviously have to play Bishnoi or Chahal too, so 9,10, 11 can basically make no runs. And at number 8 we will have to go for Chahar. Link to comment
Adamant Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 Avesh can definitely be an upgrade over trundlers in t20 but obviously don't expect anything great, he is an okayish bowler. Nothing great about him. Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 We need a strike bowler to partner Bumrah in Australia. Bhuvi is neither of the two. He will be smashed we all know that. So I don't know why we are wasting time with him again. Avesh/Siraj must get games. I see Jadeja will sneak into the XI ahead of Sundar so we have one spinner who is complete dud.. One among Chahal/Bishnoi will be there. This is what Rohit Dravid combo of WT20 in Australia will be if we go by what we are seeing: Jadeja Harshal/Chahar Bhuvi Bumrah Chahal This is a grim looking attack coz I don't know we will pick many wickets with this combo. You won't chase 170+ everytime in Australia in a World cup especially in MCG. We need strike bowlers at least 2 in pace department. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted February 20, 2022 Share Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Performance of Indian Medium Pacers in international T20s in the last 2 years ( till 19.2.22 ) .... Chahar .... Wickets per match .... 0.78 Economy rate .... 9.7 Bhuvi .... Wickets per match .... 1.00 Economy rate .... 6.7 Harshal .... Wickets per match .... 1.5 Economy rate .... 8.9 ---- Chahar has been poor both in terms of wickets taking ability and Economy rate ---- Bhuvi has been poor in terms of wickets taking ability ( especially considering the fact that he has a Wickets per match of 0.82 excluding 3 matches against weak SL ) ---- Bhuvi has a good ER and bowled a great death over in the last game ---- Harshal is expensive too albeit sample size is low. But he is easily hittable and that ER may increase when the novelty factor wears off. ---- Harshal has a good wickets per match ratio but most of his wickets come when batsmen try to hit in the death overs. In a nutshell, none of the medium pacers have justified their inclusion in the team as pure bowlers. So, why pick 3 such medium pacers ???? Why not look for pacers .... .... One pacer who can bowl 90 mph+ with white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer who gets steep bounce and has white ball skills like yorkers and slower balls .... One pacer with batting ability at No.8 and white ball skills too "This is a very likeable attack",they (majority here)have a habit of kneeling down by presenting these trundlers in the name of batting "ability" Mosher, express bowling and Lone Wolf 3 Link to comment
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