Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Shivam Mavi 4/14. It was live on hotstar. Missed it.

hotstar.com/in/sports/cricket/syed-mushtaq-ali-trophy/delhi-vs-uttar-pradesh-m706824/match-clips/replay-delhi-vs-uttar-pradesh/1540018645

Replay bhi hai

 

[express bowling]

Watched all 4 overs of Kartik Tyagi in the game replay of UP vs Delhi.

 

He was bowling really well against good batters like Rana, Dhull, Badoni etc.

 

Pace ... He was bowling at his quickest. Looked 140 k to 150 k range to me. Some deliveries looked express. He was charging in and looked very aggressive. 

 

Bounce .. Got some bounce off length balls and bowled atleast 3 nasty bouncers. His hard length balls looked good.

 

Accuracy  .. Most balls in the right areas. 16 dot balls.  ER of 3.5. Bowled a few excellent channel balls too.

 

Movement .. Got some indip and a couple of balls moved away too. 

 

Yorkers .. Lots of good straight yorkers and a couple of good wide yorkers.

 

Slower balls .. Saw 4 good slower balls including 2 slower bouncers.

 

Really liked what I saw.  Not just fast bowling but good skilful fast bowling. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Saw a few balls by Mavi.

 

Looked accurate but nothing more than brisk medium pace. Bowling same pace as recent IPLs. 

 

Not impressed.

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Did you see raghavendra Pratap Singh of Bihar,I missed the match.

 

No.

 

Is he quick?

 

I will try to watch the replay then.

[Suhaan]

32 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Can touch 140 ,also young.

Ye aya observation @MultiB48
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[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Saw a few balls by Mavi.

 

Looked accurate but nothing more than brisk medium pace. Bowling same pace as recent IPLs. 

 

Not impressed.

Perfect case of how stats don't reveal the complete picture.
Kartik was phenomenol and rapid...bouncer to Nitish Rana was a highlight, it just went too quick for him.

[Suhaan]

5 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Shivam Mavi 4/14. It was live on hotstar. Missed it.

Looks like he's again trundling or is he?

 

 

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Looks like he's again trundling or is he?

 

 

Looked sharp to me as batsmen got hurried while playing shots.

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Looked sharp to me as batsmen got hurried while playing shots.

 

 

In 2018 and 19, Mavi was not only quicker but more aggressive in his approach.

 

Now his bowling style is like a medium pacer. 

[express bowling]

Hangargekar  2 for 28 from 4 overs. 

[Suhaan]

13 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

In 2018 and 19, Mavi was not only quicker but more aggressive in his approach.

 

Now his bowling style is like a medium pacer. 

How was Saini bowling in the same match?

[ind_hyd1]

Arjun Tendulkar seems to have done well so far, any video's of him bowling against Hyderbad

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

Did you see raghavendra Pratap Singh of Bihar,I missed the match.

Looks sharp, just 19 years old bowled three straight overs at the death. Gave just 8 an over. Action reminds me of Hasnain.

[express bowling]

Umran Malik  4 for 27 from 4 overs.

 

Lots of Wickets + low ER of 6.8 when opposition scored at 9.02 per over. 

 

Dismissed R.Gaikwaid too 

Edited October 14, 2022 by express bowling

[Suhaan]

23 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Action reminds me of Hasnain.

Means chucking?

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

How was Saini bowling in the same match?

 

Did not watch Delhi's bowling.

[rkt.india]

5 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Means chucking?

No clean delivery. Action is similar. Action men's load up or gather.

[vishalvirsingh]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Hangargekar  2 for 28 from 4 overs. 

does he bowl few balls above 140K?

i believe he is 135 to 140K- Fast medium pacer category.

 

Should the categories be called like below, Please advise changes.

150+            Super quick & super fast 

145 to 150K- Super Fast 

140 to 145K- fast bowler.

135 to 140k- fast medium Pacer

130- 135 - medium pacer

125 to 130- perfect trundler

118 to 125- slow trundler

[express bowling]

50 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

does he bowl few balls above 140K?

i believe he is 135 to 140K- Fast medium pacer category.

 

Hangargekar is young. He bowls 135 k to 140 k now and is Fast-medium.  But wants to bowl fast and should be able to bowl 140 k to 145 k within a couple of years.

 

Plus he is a hit the deck bouncy pacer. And that adds to the hostility factor. 

 

50 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

 

Should the categories be called like below, Please advise changes.

 

150+            Super quick & super fast 

145 to 150K- Super Fast 

140 to 145K- fast bowler.

135 to 140k- fast medium Pacer

130- 135 - medium pacer

125 to 130- perfect trundler

118 to 125- slow trundler

 

 

Agree mostly !

 

150 k+ is  Express.

[express bowling]

56 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

 

 

Should the categories be called like below, Please advise changes.

150+            Super quick & super fast 

145 to 150K- Super Fast 

140 to 145K- fast bowler.

135 to 140k- fast medium Pacer

130- 135 - medium pacer

125 to 130- perfect trundler

118 to 125- slow trundler

 

49 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

mine is simple .70-79 medium pace,80-85 medium fast ,85-90 fast medium,90-95 fast ,95-100 express.

 

 

IMHO  Release speed is just one of the factors that determine the categorization of a pacer 

 

1. Release Speed

2. Zip off the deck

3. Bounce off the deck 

4. Special factors like releasing the ball well inside the crease 

5. Bowling style like hit the deck or skiddy or floaty 

 

All these factors combine to categorize a pacer.

 

A pacer who gets the ball to zip through with bounce can be fast af 140 k to 145 k. But one who can't needs to bowl 145 k to 150 k to feel fast to the batter.

 

Floaty bowlers look medium pace even at 135 k to 140 k.