Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Marshall]

2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Showing the mirror is now linked to "parent's upbringing"   Lahori logic at its best. Not my fault or my parents' ubringing that your team sucks  Methinks the thrashings have taken a heavy mental toll on you 

So thats the normal communication method in your houses,Go ahead kid ur problem has deep roots which cant be fixed v easily

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, Marshall said:

So thats the normal communication method in your houses,Go ahead kid ur problem has deep roots which cant be fixed v easily

I know its tough but sometimes cold hard reality has to be accepted... I know its been tough 30 odd years for you watching your favorite team get humiliated on a global stage but that's life. I can see how often you would have built that hope inside you thinking "This is the year" and made those plans for the grand celebration only to see a phainta one more time  Tough for sure but you must be used to it by now.

[Marshall]

31 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

I know its tough but sometimes cold hard reality has to be accepted... I know its been tough 30 odd years for you watching your favorite team get humiliated on a global stage but that's life. I can see how often you would have built that hope inside you thinking "This is the year" and made those plans for the grand celebration only to see a phainta one more time  Tough for sure but you must be used to it by now.

30 years? You forget the usual sharjah beating ur "ATGs" used to get from our team and u couldnt do nothing but hopelessly pray for u "legends" to turn up atleast for once but alas that was just not meant that way

[Ultimate_Game]

47 minutes ago, Marshall said:

30 years? You forget the usual sharjah beating ur "ATGs" used to get from our team and u couldnt do nothing but hopelessly pray for u "legends" to turn up atleast for once but alas that was just not meant that way

Sharjah? The venue where match fixing was rampant? And care enlightening me when that happened coz I sure wasn't around to see it  No wonder you are mentally shot... watching India lay beat down time and again has made you senile and you need to look at old grainy footage of bygone era to provide some solace. I'm sure the video footage of grand-dads Imran and company are quite scintillation and compelling but I prefer the modern age. Just the fact you have to go to "Sharjah matches" from 80s to take a shot shows how things stand   

[Marshall]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Sharjah? The venue where match fixing was rampant? And care enlightening me when that happened coz I sure wasn't around to see it  No wonder you are mentally shot... watching India lay beat down time and again has made you senile and you need to look at old grainy footage of bygone era to provide some solace. I'm sure the video footage of grand-dads Imran and company are quite scintillation and compelling but I prefer the modern age. Just the fact you have to go to "Sharjah matches" from 80s to take a shot shows how things stand   

Hahah u r Genius bro throw out all the records of cricket of before 2000s and indian losses cz ur team was crap back them and could beat us only in their dreams

 

[Marshall]

Sorry I forgot i need to add 2012 "Aany do" to the list as well 

[Adi_91]

2 hours ago, Marshall said:

Sorry I forgot i need to add 2012 "Aany do" to the list as well 

Your team has been perenially crap for a long time, hyping leg-ends like Lala and Riaz, apart from Akmal bros.

 

Didn't one of your phaast bowler ask, "Kohli?, Who?" Got a fitting response too from Kohli himself.

[speedheat]

Sorry I forgot i need to add 2012 "Aany do" to the list as well 

 

You would have been thrashed in that series too if not of some blatant chucking by coward cheaters called chuckmal and Junaid khan

[express bowling]

Fastest balls of Indian Fast bowlers in this IPL  ( what I have seen )

 

New pacers --

 

Siraj          145 k

Nathu        145 k

Shardul     145 k

Thampi     144 k

Aniket C    143 k

Sangwan   143 k

Kaul          143 k

Avesh       142 k   ( although he is just 20 and was suffeeing from cramps )

Rajpoot    142 k

 

Khejroliya --  did not play a single game

 

Team India pacers --

 

Aaron     150 k

Umesh    148 k

Ishant     148 k

Shami     146 k     ( despite coming back from major injury )

Bhuvi      146 k

Bumrah   145 k

Hardik     144 k

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 16, 2017 by express bowling

[Rightarmfast]

34 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Fastest balls of Indian Fast bowlers in this IPL  ( what I have seen )

 

New pacers --

 

Siraj        145 k

Nathu      145 k

Shardul    145 k

Thampi    144 k

Aniket      143 k

Sangwan  143 k

Kaul        143 k

Avesh      142 k

Rajpoot   142 k

 

Khejroliya --  did not play a single game

 

Team India pacers --

 

Aaron     150 k

Umesh    148 k

Ishant     148 k

Shami     146 k

Bhuvi      146 k

Bumrah   145 k

Hardik     144 k

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, is Aaron still hitting 150's? Fancy that! Bhuvi at 146 is crazy. He got to be the only bowler in Indian history( and actually one of the few in international cricket ) who has got faster after 4-5 years of playing!

[Ankit_sharma03]

41 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Fastest balls of Indian Fast bowlers in this IPL  ( what I have seen )

 

New pacers --

 

Siraj        145 k

Nathu      145 k

Shardul    145 k

Thampi    144 k

Aniket      143 k

Sangwan  143 k

Kaul        143 k

Avesh      142 k

Rajpoot   142 k

 

Khejroliya --  did not play a single game

 

Team India pacers --

 

Aaron     150 k

Umesh    148 k

Ishant     148 k

Shami     146 k

Bhuvi      146 k

Bumrah   145 k

Hardik     144 k

Ohh yes India do produce fast bowlers now ................soon well take over that image from Pakistan "factory of fast bowlers"

[cric_fan]

Ohh yes India do produce fast bowlers now ................soon well take over that image from Pakistan "factory of fast bowlers"

 

Man you guys are obsessed. Concentrate ok your own game.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, cric_fan said:

 

Man you guys are obsessed. Concentrate ok your own game.

UR the one who is dying to play with us

UR ex-cricketer cant get over ours n IPL 

UR cricketers still talk about old fights wid us to remain in news........

Ur media compares ur below avg crickters to our top cricketers

 

Yea right we are obsessed . 

I think looking at ur rank u need to concentrate on ur game 

 

"sadd na kaka, sadde koll hun jyaada change fast bowler ne " In case u do understand punjabi . In case u dnt " dnt be jls we have better fast bowlers now" 

[Ankit_sharma03]

29 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

i think even dinda clocked 144 ,got thrashed by good effort nonetheless

See we are not obsessed with Speed..........

We dnt care about dinda.......

[speedheat]

Fastest balls of Indian Fast bowlers in this IPL  ( what I have seen )

 

New pacers --

 

Siraj          145 k

Nathu        145 k

Shardul     145 k

Thampi     144 k

Aniket C    143 k

Sangwan   143 k

Kaul          143 k

Avesh       142 k   ( although he is just 20 and was suffeeing from cramps )

Rajpoot    142 k

 

Khejroliya --  did not play a single game

 

Team India pacers --

 

Aaron     150 k

Umesh    148 k

Ishant     148 k

Shami     146 k     ( despite coming back from major injury )

Bhuvi      146 k

Bumrah   145 k

Hardik     144 k

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks Just beautiful this, what would have been kejroliyas fastest ball?? Just your guess please

[express bowling]

11 minutes ago, speedheat said:

 

 what would have been kejroliyas fastest ball?? Just your guess please

148 k      : )     ....  just a wild guess for fun  !

Edited May 16, 2017 by express bowling

[Vilander]

On 4/3/2017 at 2:30 AM, express bowling said:

• Srinath still has the 2nd best bowling average in the history of Indian test cricket among pacers, just marginally behind Kapil. 
• Pacers hunt in pairs with another good dependable pacer as the 3rd  seamer.  All good Indian pacers have suffered from lack of  support from the other end in test matches.  There was no pressure created from the other end. This factor had taken a toll on their bowling averages compared to the rest of the world.
• Srinath never benefited from the use of bottle caps etc. and his figures should not be compared to those bowlers who did so. 
• All Indian pacers suffered from the lack of fast bowling culture in our country, till the last 2 years or so.
• The main reason why Srinath is special is because he dared to bowl out-and-out fast in a country where everyone believed in that era that Indians could not bowl genuinely quick.  Every youth coach from that era ( at an age when the bowler actually develops )  would tell you that there is no point focusing on pace as Indians have to depend on their skills alone to take wickets. There was active encouragement to cut down pace.   Srinath acted as pioneer in this field in independent India and  gave belief to the future generation of Indian quicks that they too can bowl genuinely fast.  His value to Indian cricket  cannot be gauged by stats alone.

amazing post.

[Vilander]

On 4/3/2017 at 0:23 PM, the don said:

Its a pity that the cricketing world and neutrals dont realise the genius of srinath and put the likes of Akhtar ahead of him .

Srinath was clearly a genius and not just comparable to abdul razzaq as people would like us to believe .

 Lol. No seriously why would you degrade one of Indias few good fast bowlers (perhaps the best ) by comparing him to wasim and waqar even if on an indian forum ??

yup you are right, Srinath never cheated so you can not compare him to cheats who used bottle-caps. spot on buddy. 

[King Tendulkar]

Happy days 

 

and we have skipper who will want these pacers in . 

 

 

[express bowling]

My impressions of the new Indian fast-bowlers  in this IPL  --

 

Md.Siraj  -  He has been impressive. He has bowled with genuine pace with a very high percentage of deliveries at 135 k to 145 k. Plus he is a skiddy pacer who hurries on to the bat after pitching.  Gets inswing on a consistent basis and the in-dipping skiddy quick balls result in a lot of bowled outs and LBWs.  Has a good pacy bouncer and has developed decent yorkers and slower balls in this IPL.  Hits the deck hard when needed and his height is ok.   

 

The best thing is that he was learning as the tournament progressed. He took 41 wickets from only 9 FC matches this season and is the one bowler to look out for as he knows how to pick up wickets. Needs to be picked for our A team and can play all formats.

 

 

Avesh Khan -- He is tall and bouncy. Hits the deck hard and bowls a heavy ball.  Gets the ball to seam in and is accurate.... makes the batsmen play.  He is one of those quicks who hurry batsmen visually.  Can bowl lots of  140 k + deliveries in an over.  Reminds me a lot of Srinath.  He was really unlucky to miss 13 matches this season and should have been played by RCB.

 

He is a wicket taker too and was our best pacer in the last U19 WC. took loads of wickets. Don't know how he is not picked for the MP Ranji team.  The selectors must see to it that he plays Ranji next season and he is good enough for our A team too. He is one of the most exciting pace prospects from India and only 20, so he should add pace as he becomes older.

 

 

Nathu Singh -- He got injured and played only 2 games. But he is a big talent. Looked really good in those 2 games. Bowled 138 k to 145 k, swung the ball both ways, was very accurate and bowled a few good bouncers. His ER was only 3.75 in a T20 tournament. Would have shone even more if he had played 6 or 7 games. Another A team candidate.

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya -- The man was conspicuous by his absence. Did not get to play a single game despite taking 13 wickets from only 5 VH Trophy matches.  He is genuinely quick and bouncy and a left-armer too.  Saw him in a DY Patil match he was bowling some superb and fierce bouncers and yorkers.

 

 

Basil Thampi -- He has impressed most commentators and his team management due to his ability to bowl quick,  inswinging late-dipping yorkers at will.   That is a rare skill and he needs to be backed. he bowled 134 k to 144 k , was skiddy and got regular inswing. He has a somewhat round-arm action and a lowish release point and that often robs him of bounce when bowling good length. He has a good, quick bouncer. Needs to improve his accuracy regarding all deliveries. He bowled all the difficult overs even in his first IPL and that speaks volumes about the confidence that his team management has in him.

 

 

Ankit Rajpoot --  He did not get to play that many games too but did well whenever he was chosen. He is a tall pacer and can hit the deck hard. Gets good bounce.  Bowled 132 k to 142 k in this IPL but bowled upto 147 k last time. He gets seam movement with regularity and comes across as a skilled pacer for the shorter formats. Seen him swing the ball in FC too. Has a decent slower ball.

 

 

Shardul Thakur -- He was good one day and bad the next day. This inconsistency is due to the fact that he tries too many things and often ends up bowling a bad line, either down the leg or too wide.  He has a lot of skills, swing, reverse swing, seam movement, good bouncer, decent slower balls and decent yorkers....but needs to use them judiciously.  His speeds were 133 k to 145 k.

 

 

Aniket Chaudhary --  He was not supposed to be a T20 bowler and did not do that well barring a couple of matches. Needs to improve his yorkers.

 

But, he is a test prospect for sure as he is very tall, hits the deck hard, has a great bouncer and can swing the ball too. Bowls decent speeds too, 130 k to 143 k

Edited May 16, 2017 by express bowling