Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Mosher]

 

 

 

[Mosher]

Beauty from Aaron

 

 

 

Edited May 12, 2018 by Mosher

[express bowling]

There are lots of young pace bowlers coming through.   Many of them are bowling 140 k to 150 k in the shorter formats and have good skills for their age.

 

But, one major issue I see is ... many of them are not getting to play sufficient FC matches.  The domestic cricket veterans are blocking valuable spots and impeding or slowing down the development of these Team India prospects.

 

Avesh Khan has been able to play only 8 FC matches.   Anyone connected with cricket can see that he is a Team India prospect, he was recently called as one of only 4 bowlers to help the Indian team practice in S.A. But he rarely gets a chance in his state team.

 

I am astounded to see that Prasidh Krishna has played only 1 FC match, although he picked up 6 wickets in that game.  

 

Khaleel Ahmed has faced a similar fate. 

 

These 3 young pacers are quick, tall and bouncy ....  very international-type pacers ...  and must be groomed with special care by the BCCI.

 

FC cricket is the backbone of the player-development-process.  Pacers learn to bowl 20 overs a day and develop stamina. Special talents must must must be given the chance to develop fast by playing sufficient FC.  Playing List A games are important too.

 

Nagarkoti and Mavi should get sufficient chances in  FC and List A  from next season too.

 

The BCCI and the selectors should see to it.

Edited May 14, 2018 by express bowling

[express bowling]

My impressions of the young Indian pacers in IPL 2018 -- Part 1

 

The Under-24 pacers --

Shivam Mavi --   Age 19
Bowling speeds 135 k to 150 k.

I found him to be the most exciting fast bowling talent from India among uncapped pacers. This is because he has the rare combination of high pace, steep bounce, zip off the deck, ability to swing the ball both ways, ability to seam the ball and bowls a decent line. He bowls with a front on action.

In the U19 World Cup, he was getting inswing primarily, but saw him bowl some outswingers too in the IPL.

He is just 19 years old. I hope he gets to play a lot of FC and List A matches to hone his skills and get the practice of bowling 20 overs a day at pace.

He hits the deck hard and has this ability to bowl these deliveries which rise steeply from just short of a length and hit the batter on the fingers and ribs. Batsmen will to afraid to face him on juicy tracks.

 

Prasidh Krishna -- Age 22
Bowling speeds  135 k  to  146 k

He is a tall guy, maybe around 6'2".   Comes across as a thinking bowler.  Has pace, gets bounce but I feel that he needs to improve his wrist action and zip off the deck. Can get consistent outswing when conditions are favourable. Seen him get inswing too. Bowls in good areas generally.

He is a skillful bowler, especially in the end overs. Bowls good yorkers and slower balls and knows what to do. Has had a couple of bad games but who doesn't in T20s.

Has done really well in a few games and it is good to see him in the India-A team for 50 over matches.

 

This combination of pace, bounce, good control and outswing screams test prospect ... provided he can maintain intensity while bowling 20 overs a day.  Needs to play lots of FC for that and improve his skills.

 

Avesh Khan --  Age 21
Bowling speeds  137 k  to  149 k.

Really tall lad, around 6'3" , with a strong action.  He hits the deck really hard and bowls a very heavy ball. Can get steep bounce and  bowls at genuine pace. Can seam the ball.

He started this IPL strongly with 3 good games. He was mixing lengths well, bowling his default short of a length balls and combining them with some good yorkers.  Batsmen found him tough to handle.

But his next 3 games were poor. This decline was mainly due to the fact that he stopped mixing lengths and was not bowling any yorkers even when batters were thrashing him.

Inexperience showed ... but his basics are strong. A little bit of experience and guidance can make him a very dangerous bowler. 

Needs to play full FC season this time.

 

Khaleel Ahmed --  Age 20   ( Will update if he gets to play the final  )
Bowling speeds  139 k  to  145 k in just 1 match.  Can bowl upto 148 k.


A tall left armer  with genuine pace  ( height around 6'2"  ).  Something India is looking for.  His run up is good and has a strong high-arm action.  But does he not look at where he is bowling at the point of delivery ?

He hits the deck hard, gets bounce and zip off the deck and generated pace with ease. Can seam the ball.

He impressed with his death over bowling in the SMA Trophy and VH Trophy.  Bowled good yorkers and slower balls. Got a India-A callup as a result.  Good choice.

The SRH team management should have played him in more games.

 

 

 

 

 

Kamlesh Nagarkoti --   Age 18
Bowling speeds --  138 k  to  150 k  ( in the U19 world cup  )

He was conspicuous by his absence. Got injured just before the IPL started. 

He has a very athletic sprinting run up and good action. Reminds me of Brett Lee. Has a very skiddy quick and accurate yorker.

A genuine fast bowler who needs to be groomed with care.

 

 

 

 

The Above-24 pacers --

Ankit Rajpoot -- Age 24
Bowling speeds  133 k to 144 k  ...  fastest 144.8 k

A very tall bowler, around 6'3" ,   he has played a lot of FC.  He has a strong action, bowls at decent pace, can hit the deck hard, gets bounce and can get consist outswing if conditions favour. His lines are very good and length is decent too.

He can be an excellent test match bowler if he can sustain his pace and intensity  throughout the day. This combination of outswing, decent pace, bounce and bowling in good areas can be lethal.  I will be happy if  he is chosen for the test series in England.

He started the IPL very strongly with a 5-fer, tapered off in the middle and finished strongly.  In the past , he has displayed the habit of losing intensity from time to time in FC. I hope he has rectified this.
 

Md. Siraj --  Age 24
Bowling speeds -   135 k  to 147 k ... Bowled a fastest of 149.9 k


He is around 6'0" with a busy run up and reasonably high arm action. Has pace but can't sustain it always.  Gets zip off the deck but lacks natural bounce.  His bouncer is inconsistent too ... a few are good but quite a few become long hops.

He gets some inswing and seams the ball in too ... But does not have a prominent away going delivery

Has bowled decently this IPL. His pace has increased and he bowled some good end overs.  His yorkers are decent but his slower balls are horrible. Needs to either improve his slower balls or stop using them.

He looks the best when bowling at full pace ... and needs to do this regularly.

 

 

 

 

Navdeep Saini  --  Age 25
Bowling speeds --  135 k to 145 k in FC

He too was conspicuous by his absence. Was not played in a single game even.

He is primarily a test prospect though, who has the great quality of sustaining high speeds in 5 day matches, seaming the ball both ways and bowling in really good areas.

He is around 6'0" who is more a skiddy bowler  who may lack natural bounce. Has a decent and sharp bouncer though.
 

 

 

 

Siddharth Kaul  --  Age  28
Bowling speeds --  127 k  to 143 k

He is a short bowler but has shown a lot of improvement in this IPL.  His T20 skills have become above-average.

He has bowled in good areas,  has swung the ball on occasions,   has developed a good yorker, has a decent bouncer and good slower balls.  His end overs skills have become good.

His main quality in T20s has been ... knowing which ball to bowl and executing it.

He is not a test quality bowler. Seen him lose intensity and pace regularly in 4 day matches ..  don't know how he would fare in ODIs, may not do well in the first 40 overs ... but looks like a decent T20I prospect based on current  form.

 

Performed horribly in the final though. I hope he does not have temperament issues.

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by express bowling

[express bowling]

My impressions of the young Indian pacers in IPL 2018 --  Part  2

 

 

 

The Above-24 pacers  ( continued )

 

Shardul Thakur --  Age 26
Bowling speeds -- 132 k  to 143 k ... fastest of 144 k

He is becoming a regular in Team India as a backup pacer in all formats ...  But has looked very average in all respects.  Most other upcoming pacers look much better as India prospects. 

Pace, bounce, zip off the deck, abilty to swing and seam the ball, yorkers, bouncers and slower balls ...  everything has looked very average. Plus he is a very short bowler. And he does not make up with accuracy either.

He can outswing the ball and may do decently in England ...  But Rajpoot and Saini will be much better than him in tests.

 

 

 

Deepak Chahar -- Age 25

Bowling Speed -- 125 k  to 142 k, fastest 144 k.

 

He Is a right arm medium-fast swing bowler.  Has bowled wonderfully in the first 6 overs. When there is any swing available, he makes use of it. Can swing the ball both ways but his outswinger is superb. Bowls a good line too. Looks great bowling with the new ball.

 

But,  he may not have the tools to bowl with the older ball yet.  He does not have a high arm action, is medium height and lacks natural bounce and extra pace. Haven't seen him hit the deck hard with consistency when swing is not available. Looks a bit innocuous then. Dhoni did not use him with the old ball at all.   Chahar needs to work on this issue.

 

 

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya  --  Age 26
Bowling speeds --  132 k   to  143 k

A tall left armer, maybe around 6'1",  caught eyeballs because of his hostile bouncers and heavy balls.  He has started playing cricket quite late.  This has resulted in him being a semi-skilled bowler even at age 26.

He looks like a rookie bowler that he is. His stock ball is the rising short ball.  His good length and pitched up balls often lack pace. Needs to improve his ability to swing and seam the ball too. His accuracy is sometimes ok and sometimes not. His slower ball is not bad.

Needs to play more FC and List A and hone his skills.  Has to work on developing a steady and quicker good length off stump/ channel delivery.

A work in progress but has potential.
 

 

Basil Thampi --  Age 24
Bowling speeds --  135 k  to  144 k


Did not have a good IPL this time.  Last time he impressed with his ability to bowl accurate and quick indipping yorkers at will. Bowled good skiddy bouncers too.  Became the Emerging Player as a result in IPL 2017.

This time his yorkers and bouncers went missing.  Tried too many slower balls which is not his strength.

Needs to focus on his strengths.

He has a slingy action with a low release point.  Hence lacks natural bounce. Such bowlers need to be very quick in the air to succeed and need to swing the ball with accuracy too.  He needs to work on these aspects ...  as he looked a bit slower and less accurate to me and got less swing compared to last year.
 

Barinder Sran  --  Age  25
Bowling speeds --  132 k  to  144 k

He is a tall left armer whose IPL 2018 was not special.  He fluctuates a lot in pace and intensity.  Has natural bounce and left armer's angle.

But somehow has always been unable to use  the plus points that he has to churn out consistent performances.

 

Edited May 27, 2018 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Top speeds of Indian pacers in IPL 2018 (  the final list  )

 

 

Siraj            149.9 k
Mavi           149.9 k ( 3 deliveries at this speed )
Sran            149.3 k  ***
Avesh         149.1 k
Umesh        149.0 k
Bumrah      148.2 k
Kaul             147.7 k  ***
Prasidh       146.3 k
Shami         146.3 k
Hardik         145.4 k
Khaleel       145.0 k
Thampi       144.9 k
Rajpoot       144.8 k  or  90 mph

Chahar        144.4 k
KM Asif       144.4 k
Shardul       144.x k
Harshal       144.x k
Bhuvi           143.4 k
Khejroliya   143.1 k


***   These deliveries by Sran and Kaul have been 5 kph and 4.5 kph quicker than their next fastest balls of the tournament.


 

Edited May 27, 2018 by express bowling

[S_pace]

42 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Top speeds of Indian pacers in IPL 2018 (  the final list  )

 

 

Siraj            149.9 k
Mavi           149.9 k ( 3 deliveries at this speed )
Sran            149.3 k  ***
Avesh         149.1 k
Umesh        149.0 k
Bumrah      148.2 k
Kaul             147.7 k  ***
Prasidh       146.3 k
Shami         146.3 k
Hardik         145.4 k
Khaleel       145.0 k
Thampi       144.9 k
Rajpoot       144.8 k  or  90 mph

Chahar        144.4 k
KM Asif       144.4 k
Shardul       144.x k
Harshal       144.x k
Bhuvi           143.4 k
Khejroliya   143.1 k


***   These deliveries by Sran and Kaul have been 5 kph and 4.5 kph quicker than their next fastest balls of the tournament.


 

Looks like there is literally a wall between 149.9 and 150. Someone should have crossed or touched 150 after bowling so close to 150k.

 

[Vilander]

Too odd may be its programmed if Indian bowler ceiling is 149.9 can't bowl over 150 lol

[Vk1]

@express bowling bro...who are your top 5 picks for Tests and the world cup including the regulars?

[express bowling]

4 hours ago, Vk1 said:

@express bowling bro...who are your top 5 picks for Tests and the world cup including the regulars?

 

Tests --  Shami, Bumrah, Bhuvi, Umesh, Rajpoot, Saini   (  1 extra to cover for Shami, if he is not mentally focused )

 

WC is too far away bro, to form a clear opinion now.  Bumrah and Bhuvi can take care of the end overs if fit.  We need a 3rd pacer to take wickets upfront. Shami is good but may have fitness issues, Umesh looks ideal based on current form but don't know whether he can sustain it for 1 more year.  Prasidh Krishna can be groomed but unless he is played in most ODIs from now on, time is short for this.

 

Bumrah, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh, Prasidh would be my shortlist for ODIs as of today, which may change later on.

 

Rajpoot in place of Prasidh could be the other option for ODIs.  Problem is, Rajpoot is not in the 50-over A-team ... and we are choosing senior teams only from A-teams.

Edited May 28, 2018 by express bowling

[Cricket_Fan]

What are the speeds of our boys now? I expect Umesh to crank it up.

[express bowling]

Not that happy with our first 8 overs against a weak Afghanistan batting. We are going at over 4 runs per over in reasonably helpful conditions.

 

Too many on the pad deliveries and half volleys.

 

It is true that we don't have our 3 low average pacers ... Shami , Bhuvi and Bumrah.

 

Yes, Afghanistan is 35 for 3 which includes a run out.  But we need more discipline in England.

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, Cricket_Fan said:

What are the speeds of our boys now? I expect Umesh to crank it up.

 

135 k to 143 k in the first 8 overs.

[express bowling]

The Afghanistani batters are very poor technically.

 

I hope this does not give our bowling unit a false sense of security if we bowl them out cheaply.

 

There have been very few edge inducing channel deliveries from Ishant despite having 3 slips and 2 gullies.  Umesh has bowled some good outswingers but also lots of on the pad 4 balls.

 

 

[LORD_analyst]

UMESH  returns to suffer from leg-stump syndrome.

[rkt.india]

20 minutes ago, express bowling said:

The Afghanistani batters are very poor technically.

 

I hope this does not give our bowling unit a false sense of security if we bowl them out cheaply.

 

There have been very few edge inducing channel deliveries from Ishant despite having 3 slips and 2 gullies.  Umesh has bowled some good outswingers but also lots of on the pad 4 balls.

 

 

This is a slow Indian pitch. You have to attack the stumps here and that is what they did. you are bound to stray on to pads at times in that process here and there.  You are not going get edges and slip catches here. not enough pace and bounce from good length.

[Suhaan]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

This is a slow Indian pitch. You have to attack the stumps here and that is what they did. you are bound to stray on to pads at times in that process here and there.  You are not going get edges and slip catches here. not enough pace and bounce from good length.

But the thing is Umesh has a habit of straying in to the pads....no harm as its Afg but against good teams from a good position, a spell of this kind of wayward bowling can ruin our chance..here and there is acceptable but unfortunately Umesh 's stock delivery is into the pads

[rkt.india]

35 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

But the thing is Umesh has a habit of straying in to the pads....no harm as its Afg but against good teams from a good position, a spell of this kind of wayward bowling can ruin our chance..here and there is acceptable but unfortunately Umesh 's stock delivery is into the pads

i actually did not see many pad deliveries by Umesh. most were bowled by Ishant.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

This is a slow Indian pitch. You have to attack the stumps here and that is what they did. you are bound to stray on to pads at times in that process here and there.  You are not going get edges and slip catches here. not enough pace and bounce from good length.

 

1)  There is a difference between attacking the stumps and bowling poor deliveries on the leg and down the leg.

 

2)  This pitch has good to decent carry.  Wicket keeper collected the balls at proper height.

 

3)  If the strategy is attacking the stumps then they needed to bowl much quicker.

 

4)  Umesh was basically trying to bowl outswingers ... and attacking the stumps was not his strategy most of the times. Ishant was trying to attack the stumps ... but at just fast-medium pace.

 

 

[Suhaan]

Umesh is trundling