Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Forward Defence]

Shami 140.7

Shami and Siraj bowl quicker once the ball loses its shine it seems

[prudent_kreeda]

2 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

I too have accepted this fact..that Bumrah is no certainity..and if he keeps going and coming back like this..its goong to affect teams plans and prep…better to plan without him and let him first prove consistent fitness in domestics..

True , proving fitness by playing is a must for all. Re introduce the condition that an injured player should play some domestic cricket before playing for india. Rule was there when Kumle was coach.

[Rightarmfast]

4 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

my take is different brother-

i do read the speed readings that they show but closely watch how fast the ball is going and how fast it is going to the keeper. post that i put my comments so YES i trust my eyes too much on the pace. even when i am batting , i trusted my eyes and how fast i felt the bowler was.

like ashwin said that KULDEEP SEN is probably the fastest bowler in India , probably He had not faced umran till then but that indicates that kuldeepmust be also bowling 150K at NETS.

i agree with you that some fastish bouncers show 137k but look faster than 144K, that indicates they are genuinely fast probably as dangerous as a 145K ball, full balls show faster reading but are easier to handle as a batsman than dangerous bouncers which are at SHOULDER height..( very dangerous balls as u can get hit or can loop an easy catch , only if you are very good , u will hit a grounded SHOT.

A lot of batsmen thought Wasim was express. For some seasons he may have been. But I believe the awkwardness in his action, the wrist speed and the awkward bounce added to the illusion. Could be the same for Kuldeep.

[speedracer]

2 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

A lot of batsmen thought Wasim was express. For some seasons he may have been. But I believe the awkwardness in his action, the wrist speed and the awkward bounce added to the illusion. Could be the same for Kuldeep.

Never in my life have I ever felt like wasim was express after watching him bowl in the 90s. Fast Medium. Same with Donald. They just can't be classified as fast express. 

 

Wasims skill plus guile made him hard to hit. Not pace. He was the slowest out of the 3. Shoaib wasim and Waqar I.e. 

Waqar was fast until 93. Then fats medium at best. 

 

I am 100%sure bumrah is faster than Alan Donald and wasim.

 

[Rightarmfast]

7 hours ago, speedracer said:

Never in my life have I ever felt like wasim was express after watching him bowl in the 90s. Fast Medium. Same with Donald. They just can't be classified as fast express. 

 

Wasims skill plus guile made him hard to hit. Not pace. He was the slowest out of the 3. Shoaib wasim and Waqar I.e. 

Waqar was fast until 93. Then fats medium at best. 

 

I am 100%sure bumrah is faster than Alan Donald and wasim.

 

Waqar was fast till 91. Bumrah has always been faster than Wasim. Bumrah isnt faster than Donald, although similar in speeds with Donalds peak speed being higher. at about 154-155 I would reckon

[Suhaan]

7 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Waqar was fast till 91. Bumrah has always been faster than Wasim. Bumrah isnt faster than Donald, although similar in speeds with Donalds peak speed being higher. at about 154-155 I would reckon

Allan Donald wasn't faster than Bumrah,maybe just about equal infact Bumrah is slightly ahead

[Suhaan]

6 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Allan Donald wasn't faster than Bumrah,maybe just about equal infact Bumrah is slightly ahead

Here is Bumrah 150.6~151 although from Aus series

https://streamable.com/dh3km

 

Some heat throughout the over

Edited January 22, 2023 by Suhaan

[rkt.india]

18 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Allan Donald wasn't faster than Bumrah,maybe just about equal infact Bumrah is slightly ahead

So Donald hit 152.9 at 32 years of age. So Donald at his peak must be much quicker.

[speedracer]

4 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

So Donald hit 152.9 at 32 years of age. So Donald at his peak must be much quicker.

Nhaa. 28-33 is peak age. He wouldn't be much different. Donald I have seen him live. He was never super rapid. Not express. Not at all. 138-145 bowler. Bumrah imo feels and looks quicker to the naked eye. 

 

Donald had good bounce consistently. 

[Suhaan]

50 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

So Donald hit 152.9 at 32 years of age. So Donald at his peak must be much quicker.

Maybe in apartheid,but he never looked that quick visually (subjective) but Bumrah and other 150 pacers looked

[Lone Wolf]

On 1/20/2023 at 10:13 PM, the don said:

Salman Irshad is bowling fast at the BPL.

Clocked 151 kph today. Bowling around 146-150 kph. 

Saw him bowling Hassan Ali's 135-138ks speed in PSL.  Doesn't look remotely closer to express.  That Md Ali the Test guy was quicker than this Irshad. 

BPL speed guns are bangla level...  Might be Walton made lol

[speedracer]

46 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Maybe in apartheid,but he never looked that quick visually (subjective) but Bumrah and other 150 pacers looked

Never was that quick. I think people are confusion skill/guile with pace.  Donald troubled batsmen with bounce not pace. He never looked that quick even in 90s

[speedracer]

15 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Saw him bowling Hassan Ali's 135-138ks speed in PSL.  Doesn't look remotely closer to express.  That Md Ali the Test guy was quicker than this Irshad. 

BPL speed guns are bangla level...  Might be Walton made lol

He is a pak bowlers. 4 over bowler at best. Maybe 7 Max. Cannot fodder. weak genes. Would even take shivam mavi over their cans. Can any of these cans perform like a fit s.thakur lol in tests? 

[Rightarmfast]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

So Donald hit 152.9 at 32 years of age. So Donald at his peak must be much quicker.

Exactly my point @Suhaan. He was at his quickest around 92-95ish season

[speedracer]

3 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Exactly my point @Suhaan. He was at his quickest around 92-95ish season

Shaun Pollock reckons srinath was as quick If not quicker in the 90s compared to Waqar and wasim. On par with donald

[Rightarmfast]

2 minutes ago, speedracer said:

Shaun Pollock reckons srinath was as quick If not quicker in the 90s compared to Waqar and wasim. On par with donald

But Srinath was very quick. As quick as Waqar and Donald. Theres no way to find out how quick Donald was. But Donald was quicker than Waqar. But did Donald and other fast bowlers bowled consistently bowled above 150's then? Not sure. Srinaths unofficial speed recorded is higher than any of these bowlers.

[speedracer]

20 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

But Srinath was very quick. As quick as Waqar and Donald. Theres no way to find out how quick Donald was. But Donald was quicker than Waqar. But did Donald and other fast bowlers bowled consistently bowled above 150's then? Not sure. Srinaths unofficial speed recorded is higher than any of these bowlers.

Hard to say. To my naked eye and after having spoken to my unkills, they feel sri and also Donald were the fastest in 90s as far as main bowlers.

However, Nante Hayward was the quickest of them all in 90s. 

The English fella is the other one who was rapid. Devon or whatever his name is

[vijaydude]

Shami dae

[Rightarmfast]

/\ fat rahi hai sabki. The jealousy is evident. And the politics is out there for everyone to witness.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, vijaydude said:

Shami dae

During this interview, Umran looked 2-3 inches taller than Shami.