SRT100 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, Vijy said: also with his batting if it comes to lower scoring matches. ashwin's batting is quite clutch in home conditions. Definitely and the most crucial point of your post is Ashwin's batting in the subcontinent is far superior to outside, which is a major variable to consider here. Ashwin can hold down one end with a batsmen, comfortably. Im biased because Ive been an Ashwin fan for years, but deep down believe in an ODI, Ashwin's batting and bowling is superior to Lord Thakur in the subcontinent. Ashwin can win a game with his bowling, Thakur is bits and pieces, he may take wickets, he may get some runs, but generally speaking he wont win us many games compared to Ashwin.
Vijy Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, SRT100 said: Definitely and the most crucial point of your post is Ashwin's batting in the subcontinent is far superior to outside, which is a major variable to consider here. Ashwin can hold down one end with a batsmen, comfortably. Im biased because Ive been an Ashwin fan for years, but deep down believe in an ODI, Ashwin's batting and bowling is superior to Lord Thakur in the subcontinent. Ashwin can win a game with his bowling, Thakur is bits and pieces, he may take wickets, he may get some runs, but generally speaking he wont win us many games compared to Ashwin. even in ashwin's case, he should be selected as per the pitch
Suhaan Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Lord said: Siraj was very poor today. Got trolled earlier for saying it but Shami is much better choice. No he isn't Shami gets tonked when going is tough+looses lot of steam in "the run of play" now Yes,Shami could have been there in place of Shardul not Siraj Edited October 15, 2023 by Suhaan Mosher and express bowling 2
Lord Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, Suhaan said: No he isn't Shami gets tonked when going is tough+looses lot of steam in "the run of play" now Yes,Shami could have been there in place of Shardul not Siraj no he doesn't. He sometimes gets hit in death overs but has improved on it. Even Siraj gets hit there. Shami for Shardul is best solution but won't happen.
Suhaan Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, Lord said: no he doesn't. He sometimes gets hit in death overs but has improved on it. Even Siraj gets hit there. Shami for Shardul is best solution but won't happen. Shami gets hit ,in flat conditions I don't see Shami being an upgrade over him He still can come when we rotate to rest main bowlers Mosher and express bowling 2
Lord Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Shami gets hit ,in flat conditions I don't see Shami being an upgrade over him He still can come when we rotate to rest main bowlers Everyone gets hit in flat conditions. Even Siraj got hit v Afghanistan yeah need to rest Bumrah/Siraj anyway considering its long tournament Edited October 15, 2023 by Lord
Suhaan Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lord said: Everyone gets hit in flat conditions. Even Siraj got hit v Afghanistan yeah need to rest Bumrah/Siraj anyway considering its long tournament So why Shami is an upgrade?
Lord Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Suhaan said: So why Shami is an upgrade? Experience and record in WC. Don't know if Siraj even had a situation where he is required to defend 15 in last over but might come in this WC Also bowling style complements Bumrah more.
Suhaan Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lord said: Experience and record in WC. Don't know if Siraj even had a situation where he is required to defend 15 in last over but might come in this WC Also bowling style complements Bumrah more. No,that is past Shami has lost considerable amount of zip from the surface which was his usp He's not the same,eggsperience is not always the goto thing Shami defending 15 runs in an over is also not a certainity rollingstoned, Mosher and express bowling 3
Lone Wolf Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Shami gets hit ,in flat conditions I don't see Shami being an upgrade over him He still can come when we rotate to rest main bowlers Agreed... Siraj searches for new ball wickets. Bit like Boult & Starc. They can be expensive but in helpful conditions they can kill the game in PP. Shami is more back of a length bowler. Against teams like SA Eng NZ... I'll go with Siraj Suhaan 1
Lord Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Suhaan said: No,that is past Shami has lost considerable amount of zip from the surface which was his usp He's not the same,eggsperience is not always the goto thing Shami defending 15 runs in an over is also not a certainity He's not lost it. Recently took a fifer v Aus. Its not like I'm asking Bhuvi for eggsperience. Shami has been good. Nothing is certainty ofcourse. But I feel more confident of Shami. I love Siraj too though, so okay with both. Its slight preference only. Suhaan 1
Suhaan Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Lord said: He's not lost it. Recently took a fifer v Aus. Its not like I'm asking Bhuvi for eggsperience. Shami has been good. Nothing is certainty ofcourse. But I feel more confident of Shami. I love Siraj too though, so okay with both. Its slight preference only. I too like Shami,but Siraj has current quality which is his ability to get out set batsman His weakness is actually our strength,means he is always looking for wickets which is our or should be our no. 1 priority in these flat conditions Shami is not far behind but as I said he has lost zip which is understandable I know Shami too will put a strong case when he gets his opportunity but Siraj pips him just Mosher and Lord 2
R!TTER Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said: Shami is more back of a length bowler. Shami is better with the old ball, even if slightly more, he also swings it more up front. Lord 1
MK55 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Wood came back to bowl at the death. None of his release speeds were shown in his over. Instead every time he delivered the ball, they showed meaningless stats like runs scored in the last x balls, the boundary banner, runs conceded etc, recent strike rate/run rate etc. Like do these guys even have an iota of common sense? You show the speed and then move on to the other meaningless garbage/obvious stat metrics. Or find a way to incorporate both. I’m more interested in the real time statistics and data than some absolute garbage that these dumb analysts/designers dispose. I’m so sick of dumb people these days. Mosher, Lord, Lone Wolf and 2 others 1 4
singhvivek141 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, MK55 said: Wood came back to bowl at the death. None of his release speeds were shown in his over. Instead every time he delivered the ball, they showed meaningless stats like runs scored in the last x balls, the boundary banner, runs conceded etc, recent strike rate/run rate etc. Like do these guys even have an iota of common sense? You show the speed and then move on to the other meaningless garbage/obvious stat metrics. Or find a way to incorporate both. I’m more interested in the real time statistics and data than some absolute garbage that these dumb analysts/designers dispose. I’m so sick of dumb people these days. The broadcast is garbage...the over I watched only for 2 balls they show the speed..one at 147 click and one at 149.. Thereafter all speeds commentators were calling out like 148, 146 etc but none were being shown on the TV. MK55 1
the don Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 According to Cricviz Wood and Haris Rauf are the fastest bowlers in this worldcup by a distance and hence the world. No one else even close. Ihsan would make this list too and Naseem would have been somewhere there as well <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Wood has bowled with continuous high pace.<br><br>88 balls (67%) of right-armer's deliveries in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC2023?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC2023</a> have been above 145kph <a href="https://t.co/TEwIkQUxJT">pic.twitter.com/TEwIkQUxJT</a></p>— The CricViz Analyst (@cricvizanalyst) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricvizanalyst/status/1713517480470003860?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Forward Defence Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, the don said: According to Cricviz Wood and Haris Rauf are the fastest bowlers in this worldcup by a distance and hence the world. No one else even close. Ihsan would make this list too and Naseem would have been somewhere there as well <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mark Wood has bowled with continuous high pace.<br><br>88 balls (67%) of right-armer's deliveries in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC2023?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC2023</a> have been above 145kph <a href="https://t.co/TEwIkQUxJT">pic.twitter.com/TEwIkQUxJT</a></p>— The CricViz Analyst (@cricvizanalyst) <a href="https://twitter.com/cricvizanalyst/status/1713517480470003860?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Nobody disputes the fact that Haris Rauf is fast. But so far in this world cup his best moment has been winning a sledging battle with Paul van Meekeren the Dutch no 11. BTW where were you yesterday?
the don Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, Forward Defence said: Nobody disputes the fact that Haris Rauf is fast. But so far in this world cup his best moment has been winning a sledging battle with Paul van Meekeren the Dutch no 11. BTW where were you yesterday? At home.
the don Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Forward Defence said: Nobody disputes the fact that Haris Rauf is fast. But so far in this world cup his best moment has been winning a sledging battle with Paul van Meekeren the Dutch no 11. BTW where were you yesterday? Yeah he has bowled the wrong t20 lengths. Im not saying otherwise. Just noticing how lockie has lost a lil bit of speed and wood and haris are the fastest now. A long shot from the early 2000s when shoaib, lee and bond were lighting up speed guns.
singhvivek141 Posted October 15, 2023 Posted October 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, the don said: At home. New TV ordered, or waiting for new year sale ?
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