rkt.india Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Now that Dhoni has discussed his short ball tactics in public' date=' it'll interesting to see how Indian batsmen cope with the 'return of favour' by England bowlers in the remaining 3 matches... I think the young Indian batsmen have so far shown immense patience in batting... Pretty interesting duel coming up... [/quote'] It is not like England have not tried this strategy against us. Plunkett kept bowling short form round the stumps, but thing was England batsmen played moronically.
asterix Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Like in NZ' date=' our fast bowlers do not have brains.[/quote'] That was an amazing comment made in public... He does a lot in public about his views of team members and what tactics used...
maniac Posted July 22, 2014 Author Posted July 22, 2014 That was an amazing comment made in public... He does a lot in public about his views of team members and what tactics used... Yeah his criticism of sreeshanth,also in Ipl finals he was blaming senior players when he was the senior most. There is a reason why he gets the flak. I had argued before that yes he has the case to make it as India's wk-bat in an all time X1 based on his numbers no denying that but doesn't make him either a worldbeater wk-bat in the gilchrist or Boucher mould. Or neither is he in sanga or abdv mould where he can walk in solely as a batsman. Yeah he is defintetely above the kamran akmals,kaluvitharanas of the world....maybe comparable to mccullum. But as a captain he doesn't bring anything to the table.
CSK Fan Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 You could see he really wanted the credit for the short ball strategy, never seen him so desperate. But he has been under tremendous pressure of late so would not blame him too
maniac Posted July 22, 2014 Author Posted July 22, 2014 You could see he really wanted the credit for the short ball strategy' date=' never seen him so desperate. But he has been under tremendous pressure of late so would not blame him too[/quote'] Isn't that a hallmark of a leader? Even in Ipl he was blaming others for the loss....would he have done it if Raina actually won that game? He called the bowlers brainless....why didn't he step up then to give advice that he all of a sudden decided its about time after 3 years of overseas drubbings.
saneindian Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 India's win has upset too many people, spoilt plans for lots of abusive threads. Series is not yet over guys. Keep praying who knows whats in store for the next three tests.
tothepoint Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Well of course. As a wicket keeper, he is terrible. We have so many Gilchrists and Flowers waiting on the sidelines. Dhoni would not make it into my gully cricket team. And less said about his batting, the better. Dont you know modern day wicket keepers need to average 50+ everywhere. Dhoni averages a measly 30 something in away tests. Saha would average atleast 50 just because his technique is so so much better. And ohh I forgot to abuse him on his captaincy. Virat and Pujara are much better leader than him, almost every Indian is. Seniors won him Test No.1 status and World cups and what he gave them in return, 0-8!! He was the sole reason for our 0-8 debacle. His handling of our golden generation of super fast bowlers is appalling. India has always been the land of great captains and express pace bowlers. I wonder when he will be kicked out of the Indian team for good. :orderorder:
CSK Fan Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 India's win has upset too many people, spoilt plans for lots of abusive threads. Series is not yet over guys. Keep praying who knows whats in store for the next three tests. Why don't you reply to the actual points raised in the thread instead of going for ad hominum attacks on people? Indian win hurt people, lovers vs haters, etc. Too much of this going on
saneindian Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Why don't you reply to the actual points raised in the thread instead of going for ad hominum attacks on people? Indian win hurt people' date=' lovers vs haters, etc. Too much of this going on[/quote'] Why don't you stop giving unsolicited advice?
Sachinism Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 He made exceptional changes and plans in the 2nd innings. Jadeja brought on early got the wicket, after Cook and Ballance were getting comfortable, bought on Shami, he struck first ball. Plan for Sharma to bowl bouncers came off. Still wouldn't back him to score more than 10 in a test
Shunya Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 India's win has upset too many people, spoilt plans for lots of abusive threads. Series is not yet over guys. Keep praying who knows whats in store for the next three tests. Funny thing is...even though the opportunity was denied....some people just cant control their itch ... imagine winning has brought out such threads..what would happen if we start loosing.. @topic - Dhoni being a "Greatest Freeloader in the history of game" is just appalling to see on this forum...this guy has done great things for our team...
Crookbond Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 India Batting Statistics in World T20 2007 MS Dhoni is the 2nd highest run scorer and the second best average. No code has to be inserted here.
FischerTal Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 more than freeloading, he's been extremely lucky. from working at a railway station to be here, its been a tremendous journey.
Crookbond Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 CB Series 2008 Most Runs Scored 3rd on the list despite playing one less innings than the top 2. No code has to be inserted here.
Pagalpanti Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Well of course. As a wicket keeper, he is terrible. We have so many Gilchrists and Flowers waiting on the sidelines. Dhoni would not make it into my gully cricket team. And less said about his batting, the better. Dont you know modern day wicket keepers need to average 50+ everywhere. Dhoni averages a measly 30 something in away tests. Saha would average atleast 50 just because his technique is so so much better. And ohh I forgot to abuse him on his captaincy. Virat and Pujara are much better leader than him, almost every Indian is. Seniors won him Test No.1 status and World cups and what he gave them in return, 0-8!! He was the sole reason for our 0-8 debacle. His handling of our golden generation of super fast bowlers is appalling. India has always been the land of great captains and express pace bowlers. I wonder when he will be kicked out of the Indian team for good. :orderorder:
Crookbond Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 India in South Africa 2010 - Test batting averages No code has to be inserted here.
adi B Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 totally agree with maniac but dhoni did contribute in a couple of games in those tournaments mentioned
diga Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 India in South Africa 2010 - Test batting averages 0[/table] look at the balls faced column.. someone made it easier for people coming down the order
SLICKR392 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 more than freeloading' date= he's been extremely lucky. from working at a railway station to be here, its been a tremendous journey. How does that make him lucky? He worked his way to becoming an Indian cricket captain, not with some Jharkandi babaji's talisman.
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 22, 2014 Posted July 22, 2014 Truth hurts badly I see. Really? So why no other skipper in the history of Indian cricket achieved the same success as Dhoni? Please don't tell me they all had poor team and Dhoni has a team consists of Bradmans and Marshal's. Why is that other person lead the team, team India looks like a lost soul? We all saw what happened in Asia cup :giggle: Why no other Indian skipper won more IPL tophies than Dhoni? Plenty of questions which OP failed to answer. If individual performance is the only factor, then sorry to say Tendulkar will be considered as biggest choker. Failed in the both WC Finals, natwest trophy final, India never won a CT with Sachin in the side. and I can go on counting (mind you I am a big Sachin fan myself) So lets not go there. Whatever OP said is ultra rubbish and lets leave at that.
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