renjith Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I am asking to replace Jaddu with a leg spinner. I see it now. Agree, wrist spinners is the way to go in overseas conditions.
zep1706 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Enough of these HTBs it started from Kumble and it needs to end now. Kumble had a couple of excellent seasons in county cricket. He could not replicate that regularly in test cricket outside India but he did have some great spells in countries like Australia. He was a very skillful bowler.
putrevus Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 I am asking to replace Jaddu with a leg spinner. why Amit Mishra or Piyush Chawla were worse than jadeja. You need a good spinner it does not matter who he is as long as he is capable of getting wickets by beating batsmen in air and not depend on pitch doing the job for him.
putrevus Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Kumble had a couple of excellent seasons in county cricket. He could not replicate that regularly in test cricket outside India but he does have some great spells in Australia. He was a very skillful bowler. Sorry but for a bowler who has more than 600 wickets he was hardly a match winner with the overseas.
vvvslaxman Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACB9-QOfz0]Bhagwath Chandrasekhar, 6 for 38 vs England - YouTube[/ame] I think you need to bowl a tad quicker in England, OZ, SA. This slow floaty spin can be negotiated easily.
rkt.india Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 why Amit Mishra or Piyush Chawla were worse than jadeja. You need a good spinner it does not matter who he is as long as he is capable of getting wickets by beating batsmen in air and not depend on pitch doing the job for him. not asking for Mishra or Chawala but new named.
Lord Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACB9-QOfz0]Bhagwath Chandrasekhar' date=' 6 for 38 vs England - YouTube[/url'] I think you need to bowl a tad quicker in England, OZ, SA. This slow floaty spin can be negotiated easily. That is almost Bhuvi's pace :cantstop: Jaddu bowls quicker,but is unable to turn it.Ashwin turns it but too slow.Need one who can turn it quick backed by a good leader look at the field in video.Dhoni would never give that:giggle:
Lord Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 not asking for Mishra or Chawala but new named. Is there anyone else doing well in Ranjis
vishalvirsingh Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 In tests I understand ojha was the no 1 spinner and in odi ashwin was the best spinner followed by jade ja. ..I guess Ojha has the skills to suceed even in England. What do you guys say. .. Ojha has been the most successful spinner in tests for india.
Lord Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 In tests I understand ojha was the no 1 spinner and in odi ashwin was the best spinner followed by jade ja. ..I guess Ojha has the skills to suceed even in England. What do you guys say. .. Ojha has been the most successful spinner in tests for india. how is that?his average is worse than Ashwin and equal with Jaddu despite never playing overseas. plus hes a chucker
sensible-indian Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 how is that?his average is worse than Ashwin and equal with Jaddu despite never playing overseas. plus hes a chucker Ojha has been hard done by selectors but its a fashionable statement to make that he is better than Ashwin. But you never know. Ojha could have been handy in England. Did take 24 wickets at 12.95 avg in Division 2 County circuit in 2011. Ok its Division 2 but still.
Lord Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Ojha has been hard done by selectors but its a fashionable statement to make that he is better than Ashwin. But you never know. Ojha could have been handy in England. Did take 24 wickets at 12.95 avg in Division 2 County circuit in 2011. Ok its Division 2 but still. Didnt Chawla and Tahir do well there too?Its hard to take them seriously My guess is Ashwin or even Jaddu would do well in county if they play.Domestic English bats seem poor vs spin.Test matches are different thing altogether Problem with Ojha is also that he can never be the 5th bowler with 4 pacer.I don't see him making a 4 man attack overseas.So Ashwin wins that 5th bowler role easily due to his batting
sensible-indian Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Didnt Chawla and Tahir do well there too?Its hard to take them seriously My guess is Ashwin or even Jaddu would do well in county if they play.Domestic English bats seem poor vs spin.Test matches are different thing altogether Problem with Ojha is also that he can never be the 5th bowler with 4 pacer.I don't see him making a 4 man attack overseas.So Ashwin wins that 5th bowler role easily due to his batting Yes. I agree. I think we should go with 3 pacers and 2 spinners unless a pitch demands 4 pacers at all cost. Why? Cos our 2 spinners would come into play on Day 4 and 5. That's one of the strategic advantages we will have over other teams. As long as our 3 pacers are chosen properly, it should be fine.
undisputed chap Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Yes. I agree. I think we should go with 3 pacers and 2 spinners unless a pitch demands 4 pacers at all cost. Why? Cos our 2 spinners would come into play on Day 4 and 5. That's one of the strategic advantages we will have over other teams. As long as our 3 pacers are chosen properly, it should be fine. But we need to atleast take the game till 4th 5th day
renjith Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 But we need to atleast take the game till 4th 5th day true :haha:
Lord Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Yes. I agree. I think we should go with 3 pacers and 2 spinners unless a pitch demands 4 pacers at all cost. Why? Cos our 2 spinners would come into play on Day 4 and 5. That's one of the strategic advantages we will have over other teams. As long as our 3 pacers are chosen properly, it should be fine. I'm not sure about that day.I don't see any of our spinners doing much unless there's a big rough which you rarely get overseas even on 5th day.For rest of the match they are confined to run saving options only.4 pacers give us more wicket taking options and a buffer in case a pacer bowls bad,which is very likely since all of them are inexperienced
sensible-indian Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 I'm not sure about that day.I don't see any of our spinners doing much unless there's a big rough which you rarely get overseas even on 5th day.For rest of the match they are confined to run saving options only.4 pacers give us more wicket taking options and a buffer in case a pacer bowls bad' date='which is very likely since all of them are inexperienced[/quote'] Fair enough. I think we need to test both options and see.
adi B Posted August 12, 2014 Posted August 12, 2014 Fletcher should write a book "behind the seens" ,he anyway has enough free time especially when India tours :giggle:
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