maniac Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Those guys were not unknown and performed in their competitions International cricket is never un known and ipl has not benefited any Indian quick bowlers the guys who were quick before are quick now ...no one increased pace for ipl so this theory is flawed Also I gave u example of who they targeted the bowlers who succeeded and who get to play and let me give you hint it's not quickest bowlers not even guys like Cummings get consistent run That was only in response to you saying IPL only encourages bits and piece players like Binny or Bhatia. Kamran Khan(it's a different story he turned out to be a chucker) and Umesh Yadav were brought in to the side because of their pace....I never heard of Umesh Yadav before he played in IPL 2 or 3 I beleive....He was neither an u-19 star or a domestic legend. The first time I saw him and same was the case with many was WHo is this this guy?when he bowled a 140+ bouncer in his debut over I think
maniac Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Funny the line you bolder is about umesh not ishant You are the one who just want to troll in every thread an di have no intention to waste single second on you ...have fun ishant is quickest and greatest :hatsoff: :WTF: is that what you really got from my post :omg:
express bowling Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 How tall are JS, IS, UY and VA? And btw - just purely between under-achievers RP Singh (before he became motu) and VRV Singh (no swing, gun-barrel straight yes), who had higher speeds? At their best, speed-wise, RP Singh and VRV Singh, are they comparable to Mohd. Shami (not skill comparison, just pace)...??? RP at his best had a normal speed of 135 k to 142 k. He even went upto 145 to 148 k on rare occasions. Then he slowed down to 130 to 140 k and then even slower , when he fattened up, to around 125 to 137 k. VRV Singh did not play much international cricket. When he did, he bowled 135 to 145 k in ODIs and 130 to 142 k in tests. Shami normally bowls 135 to 143/145 k. Occasionally upto 147/149 k. But he is far more consistent than RP and VRV in terms of high average pace.
express bowling Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 :haha: Sabby get's his BP meter running high whenever I mention Ishant. Ok let me rephrase....A tall bowlercan be 5 clicks slower than an average height bowler,by that I don't mean at Tundler speeds but at a decent pace. Steyn skills> Morkel but Morkel is by far the most dangerous bowler in the S.A side...Steyn might get you for a duck every time but Morkel in rythm will hurt you-Still surprised S.A haven't used him like their very own M.J. Anderson Skills>Broad but Broad is more threatening Hope that clairifies True..... as far as hostile bowling is concerned. Pace + bounce is more hostile than just pace ... provided decent accuracy is there. I too have often been surprised why Morkel has not bowled at the body more often. He could have been far more hostile.
Old guy Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 :WTF: is that what you really got from my post :omg: Sorry but with you I am never sure when you are serious or trolling It's my problem but I have requested u before If u were serious then I have always agreed taller bowlers need less pace but no way Steyn looks slower than morkel when moving ball Yes if there is no movement the bounce makes taller bowler looks quicker and iahant does that look at bounce he got more than yadav in first few matches even at lot slower pace But look how quicker umesh looked in Australia than ishant in Australia when he moved ball Again sorry but I honestly don't know when you are joking and when you are not ...this time it was my mistake and I am glad u did not acted like dick like I did ..
panther Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 It's sad days ,we can no longer taunt the Indians for not producing fast bowlers now they have 2.
express bowling Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 It's sad days ' date='we can no longer taunt the Indians for not producing fast bowlers now they have 2.[/quote'] Don't worry ... you can always taunt us for not having chuckers. :winky:
kaptaan Posted November 18, 2014 Posted November 18, 2014 Don't worry ... you can always taunt us for not having chuckers. :winky: :cantstop:
diga Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 I have watched srinath from 1996.of all Indian fast bowlers I have watched aaron is the quickest. Srinath debuted in 1991 just before Worldcup in Australia.. in the 5 test series.Not sure if his speeds were checked during the tests & the world cup
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Current Crops heights my estimate, JS = 6'3" IS = 6'5" Umesh = 5'10" Aaron = 5'10" Shami = 5' 8" Bhuvi = 5' 10.5"/11" Pankaj = 6' 6" Kulkarni = 5' 10" Vinay K = 5' 9" Mohit S = 5'10" BK is about 5'9"-10". Aaron is about 5'11"-6' look at the above video, Kohli is 5'10" and he is taller than Kohli. Umesh is about 5'10-11".
rkt.india Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 How tall are JS, IS, UY and VA? And btw - just purely between under-achievers RP Singh (before he became motu) and VRV Singh (no swing, gun-barrel straight yes), who had higher speeds? At their best, speed-wise, RP Singh and VRV Singh, are they comparable to Mohd. Shami (not skill comparison, just pace)...??? VRV was quicker than RP in 2006.
CoverDrive Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 It's sad days ' date='we can no longer taunt the Indians for not producing fast bowlers now they have 2.[/quote'] still can't bowl yorkers
MUMBAISKIPPER Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Aaron has the capacity to bowl the fastest ball ever in world cricket
Vilander Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 In Int cricket: Srinath - 156-x Aaron-153.2/153.x Umesh-152.2 Ishant-152.x Nehra-149.5 Srisanth-149.x Shami/RP - 148.x Munna-145.x Lots in IPL, R Shukla,P Awana etc We will see Aaron and Umesh break 155 in this WC.
Vilander Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 estimate, JS = 6'3" IS = 6'6" Umesh = 5'11" Aaron = 5'11-6'" Shami = 5' 8" Bhuvi = 5' 7" Pankaj = 6' 6" Kulkarni = 5' 10" Vinay K = 5' 9" Mohit S = 5'10" corrected.
Vilander Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Nehra :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: 2003 WC, match against Eng or Zim he bowled 149.52 which was the fastest by Indian bowler in WC at that time..probably still is. In that WC Srinath/Zak/nehra were all 135-148 averaging around 142 ks. Seriously quick and deadly, except for the final game were they lost the plot. See the Zim/England/Pak games they were fine ones, in the first Aus game we did not ave enough runs 120 odd in the second one these guys imploded..other games these trio were terrorizing all comers, esp Eng/Zim who were given a torrid time. Zim at that time was a good team bit like NZ now..very good on their day.
BeautifulGame Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 Zimbabwe was a terrible team in the 03 world at the verge of disintegration. Even lost to kenya
JaFanatic Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 In Int cricket: Srinath - 156-x Aaron-153.2/153.x Umesh-152.2 Ishant-152.x Nehra-149.5 Srisanth-149.x Shami/RP - 148.x Munna-145.x Lots in IPL, R Shukla,P Awana etc We will see Aaron and Umesh break 155 in this WC.Ishant - 152.9, Umesh - 152.5
Ankur Upadhyay Posted November 21, 2014 Posted November 21, 2014 2003 WC' date=' match against Eng or Zim he bowled 149.52 which was the fastest by Indian bowler in WC at that time..probably still is. In that WC Srinath/Zak/nehra were all 135-148 averaging around 142 ks. Seriously quick and deadly, except for the final game were they lost the plot. See the Zim/England/Pak games they were fine ones, in the first Aus game we did not ave enough runs 120 odd in the second one these guys imploded..other games these trio were terrorizing all comers, esp Eng/Zim who were given a torrid time. Zim at that time was a good team bit like NZ now..very good on their day.[/quote'] Destroyed New Zeland and Sri lanka too... All 3 were among top 10 wicket takers in that world cup. Probably the only time when 3 indian pacers were hunting in tandem,..
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