Shoonya Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 38 minutes ago, Mosher said: Yeah Aaron has been average till now but you can't blame him for yesterday's performance. He created opportunities to pick up wickets but he can't do anything if the fielders drop dollies like that. Not 2 but 3 catches were dropped of his bowling and both of those batsman(Rahane and Tiwary) went onto score 50's.. On any other day he could have picked 2-3 wickets. Regarding his run up, he is bowling within himself because he is playing most of the matches at Chinnaswamy which is ruthless against quick bowlers. Yesterday he bowled a quick bouncer to Rahane who hit a ramp shot which went for a 6. This is a ground where edges fly off to 6. Which quick bowler will go all out on such a ground? They will try to vary their pace here. Sorry you can keep blaming pitch, dropped catches, bowling within himself for a match or two. But when this is happening match after match in each season for 3-4 years, you have to call out poor bowling. Aaron is not some 18 year old playing in his rookie season. Its quite clear that he is yet to learn the lengths to bowl in shorter formats and does not know what to do moment he gets hit for a 4. If I was his advisor, I would much rather see him play a season of county cricket than in IPL. FC cricket is where he should focus. Happy to eat my words if Aaron can turn around his IPL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Shoonya said: Sorry you can keep blaming pitch, dropped catches, bowling within himself for a match or two. But when this is happening match after match in each season for 3-4 years, you have to call out poor bowling. Aaron is not some 18 year old playing in his rookie season. Its quite clear that he is yet to learn the lengths to bowl in shorter formats and does not know what to do moment he gets hit for a 4. If I was his advisor, I would much rather see him play a season of county cricket than in IPL. FC cricket is where he should focus. Happy to eat my words if Aaron can turn around his IPL season. Where did I say Aaron is doing great? Saying it again Aaron has been average. No one's denying that. But this pitch thing is not an excuse. Look at all the quick bowlers who have bowled in Chinnaswamy and look at their stats, most of them will be going over 9 rpo with 1 or 2 exceptions. Thing is RCB does not exactly have great bowlers sitting on the bench. Among the Indian bowlers in RCB, Aaron is doing a decent enough job and so he is getting picked. Edited May 8, 2016 by Mosher express bowling and diehardpacer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Mosher said: Moshit was bowling brilliantly. Probably the best I have seen him bowl at the death. Ball was reversing and he bowled some really good yorkers mixed with back of the hand slower ones, making it very difficult for the batsman to hit. Decent pace of around 138K on the yorkers. Thanks for the info bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Shoonya said: Another wicketless match for Aaron. 2 catches dropped off him but was largely pedestrian through his spell. Zero energy in his run up, looks like a club level bowler when bowling Now his stats read 4 Matches 14 overs 0 maidens 129 run 0 wickets ER of 9.2 Average - infinity RCB winning the match may give him another chance though. Aaron bowled a decent line and length in his first 2 matches and was average in his next 2. He could have picked up 2 to 3 wickets yesterday as 3 very easy catches were dropped off his bowling. His ER has to be looked at in the context of the SR of the matches he has played...most were games with very high SR. Chinnaswamy. his home-ground, is one of the smallest grounds in India and the pitch is very flat too...with no seam movement available. There is no swing on offer too. After Aaron came back from 1.5 year break, during which he had an operation of his backbone, he had to change his action so that there was less probability of the injury recurring. This new action needed a lot of match practice to get set. Unfortunately, Aaron did not have continuous games on the trot. He was dropped from the LOI sides after 2 or 3 games and never considered again. He played test matches with gaps in between AND missed most of the FC season as he was warming the benches of the test side then. Until he gets to play 4 or 5 FC matches in succession, he will never be able to get full confidence and comfort with his new action. nevertheless his hit speeds of 140 k to 148 k in a couple of matches he has played. Aaron's plight has to be considered in the light of his 1.5 year break, his major surgery , his change in action and his lack of match practice. His case is not comparable to most other bowlers. Edited May 8, 2016 by express bowling Rightarmfast, tweaker and Mosher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shoonya said: Aaron is not some 18 year old playing in his rookie season. Its quite clear that he is yet to learn the lengths to bowl in shorter formats and does not know what to do moment he gets hit for a 4. If I was his advisor, I would much rather see him play a season of county cricket than in IPL. FC cricket is where he should focus. Yes..... unless Aaron gets good amount of FC match practice and some List A match practice too....he won't be able to improve with his new action. Edited May 8, 2016 by express bowling tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gakgupta Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Yes..... unless Aaron gets good amount of FC match practice and some List A match practice too....he won't be able to improve with his new action. These kind of bowlers will end careers ..... he already done.....remember broad... They should be encouraged by captain....and should be under good guidance like zaheer or srinath etc.... Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk diehardpacer and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, gakgupta said: These kind of bowlers will end careers ..... he already done.....remember broad... They should be encouraged by captain....and should be under good guidance like zaheer or srinath etc.... Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Seriously... ending career ,breaking noses ,breaking skulls.That is cricket? Besides....Broad went on to become a far more successful bowler than the nose breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, radhika said: Seriously... ending career ,breaking noses ,breaking skulls.That is cricket? Actually....cricket throughout its history used to be about creating fear in the minds of the opposition by adopting a bodyline attack...because cricket is played with a very hard ball with a rough seam. One of the most lauded and successful sides in the history of cricket was the West indies from 1974 to 1990.....and their cricket was all about bowling a barrage of bouncers and short balls and creating physical intimidation. Even the Aussies did it with Thomson. Lillee, Pascoe, Hogg, Lee and Gillespie. And they are another legendary champion side in cricket. Much improved cricket gear and much flatter pitches have reduced this intimidation a lot. Even when i played cricket in the '90s...the physical intimidation part was always there. Fast bowlers tried to break my skull by bowling no balls from 18 yards. When i was the captain i told my bowlers to bowl body-line when a wicket was not falling. this is what cricket used to be for 50 or 60 years. Edited May 8, 2016 by express bowling maniac, Rightarmfast, gakgupta and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gakgupta Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Seriously... ending career ,breaking noses ,breaking skulls.That is cricket? Besides....Broad went on to become a far more successful bowler than the nose breaker. Being aggressive is part of any sport esp test cricket..... Breaking noses might not be required but scaring batsmen is defiantly should part of plan.... I am talking about broad...the batsmen not bowler Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gakgupta Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Actually....cricket throughout its history used to be about creating fear in the minds of the opposition by adopting a bodyline attack...because cricket is played with a very hard ball with a rough seam. One of the most lauded and successful sides in the history of cricket was the West indies from 1974 to 1990.....and their cricket was all about bowling a barrage of bouncers and short balls and creating physical intimidation. Even the Aussies did it with Thomson. Lillee, Pascoe, Hogg, Lee and Gillespie. And they are another legendary champion side in cricket. Much improved cricket gear and much flatter pitches have reduced this intimidation a lot. Even when i played cricket in the '90s...the physical intimidation part was always there. Fast bowlers tried to break my skull by bowling no balls from 18 yards. When i was the captain i told my bowlers to bowl body-line when a wicket was not falling. this is what cricket used to be for 50 or 60 years. Liked ur comment bro Now virat is the perfect captain for test cricket. He will give it back big time Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) Umesh bowled a good line and length today. Almost all good length off stump deliveries. No wide deliveries or long hops. Got some bounce with his good length balls too. Speeds between 140 k and 147 k. I want to see more such spells from him. Edited May 8, 2016 by express bowling Ironhide, vishalvirsingh, Mosher and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 15 hours ago, Mosher said: Moshit was bowling brilliantly. Probably the best I have seen him bowl at the death. Ball was reversing and he bowled some really good yorkers mixed with back of the hand slower ones, making it very difficult for the batsman to hit. Decent pace of around 138K on the yorkers. Mohit bowled between 109 k to 138 k But he was so impressive that I can say with full confidence that he wud be in indian t20 team for sure. Even in odi team ..his bowl control is unbelievable. He bowls upto 141 k easily n his variations r too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 On a pitch where the quicker bowlers went for a lot of runs in general....Aaron bowled well. Good line and length most of the times. He got some bounce too on a low track and bowled a couple of excellent bouncers. Speeds between 138 k and 148 k. Rightarmfast and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoonya Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Despite bowling well, once again no wickets for Aaron. Never looked like taking a wicker either. Season stats - 5 matches , no wickets for 154 runs in 17 overs, ER 9+. Is this some sort of a record or what for a frontline bowler? Checked his last season IPL record, 6 matches, 17 overs, 177 runs, 3 wickets, avg of 60, ER of 10.2 So combined record for last 2 seasons- 11 matches, 34 overs, 321 runs, 3 wickets, avg of 107, ER of 9.5!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) Bumrah bowled a very good over near the end. Lots of good yorkers and low full tosses at pace. His toe-crushed to Rahul was excellent. His other overs were decent too. Speeds were 133 k to 144 k. Edited May 12, 2016 by express bowling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vishalvirsingh Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 149 k by Aaron. He has been aggressive today. tweaker and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) Aaron bowled decently in the earlier overs. Pitched the ball in the right areas and bowled a few good bouncers. Picked up two crucial wickets. His last over was expensive though. Speeds were 135 k to 149 k. Edited May 11, 2016 by express bowling tweaker, vishalvirsingh, diehardpacer and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoonya Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Finally wickets for Aaron. Should give him some confidence. Looked in better rhythm. That 108 meter SIX by Rayudu straight over his head must have felt embarrassing though tweaker and New guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I am really disappointed with Aaron. He seems to not have worked hard on his bowling. In T20s, it is all about variation, cant be predictable. He still doesnt have a good slower ball. He does bowl it but it is not deceptive and can be picked easily. With his pace at 145-150, his slower ball should be really effective but it isnt. Neither he has worked on his yorkers well enough. He still bowls a lot of beamers trying to bowl yorker. If you are a bowler bowling in T20s, you must be really good at these two options. Otherwise, forget T20 and play county cricket and concentrate on test match bowling. tweaker and maniac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 28 minutes ago, rkt.india said: I am really disappointed with Aaron. He seems to not have worked hard on his bowling. In T20s, it is all about variation, cant be predictable. He still doesnt have a good slower ball. He does bowl it but it is not deceptive and can be picked easily. With his pace at 145-150, his slower ball should be really effective but it isnt. Neither he has worked on his yorkers well enough. He still bowls a lot of beamers trying to bowl yorker. If you are a bowler bowling in T20s, you must be really good at these two options. Otherwise, forget T20 and play county cricket and concentrate on test match bowling. Apart from Bumrah and , to some extent Bhuvi. no other Indian pacer seems to have practiced the yorker enough. That is disappointing. Biggest problem with most Indian pacers is that they don't practice bowling enough. At least that is the impression they give while bowling. tweaker, maniac and Mosher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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