G_B_ Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 The truth is Umesh has been bowling ****. Now i am all for keeping him to the test arena.
asterix Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 The truth is Umesh has been bowling ****. Now i am all for keeping him to the test arena. I'm amazed that he doesn't bowls yorkers any more... He has the ability to bowl yorkers... Yorkers are wicket taking balls.. If you are bowling so many bouncers, why not slip in a yorker in between? Yadav doesn't knows how to set up a batsman. Low IQ level could be a reason that he's harming his career... Shami uses his brains... He should learn or get advice from Shami...
Gunner Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Though Yadav was pathetic yesterday, Dhobi's talking as if trundlers Mohit and Bhuvi didn't get smacked (and dropped) against the same batsmen. It seems Dhobi was waiting for an opportunity to state this publicly, esp after Kohli's aggressive backing of seamers with genuine pace. Singling out and attacking Umesh shows his bias towards medium pacers and the huge gulf in thought process between Virat and him.
renjith Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Same bowler was the highest wicket taker in WC for us. I have never seen any other captain bash their bowler like that. Thats what makes it more frustrating. Everyone thought he was finally settling into a strike bowler as he bowled with better control in wc.
rkt.india Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 The truth is Umesh has been bowling ****. Now i am all for keeping him to the test arena. Umesh was our highest wicket taker in WC. 1-2 bad matches and sword is out while He keeps defending Jadeja.
vishalvirsingh Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 and can he name me a single successful cricket team without quick bowlers? and what is his role as a captain' date=' just taking the team in ground. Isnt it a captain's job to build an attack, make sure his bowlers prepare well, work hard in the nets. He is Indian captain for last 8 years now and with this kind of thinking, team is not going anywhere.[/quote'] NO trundler should ever play for indian team ideally.... we should actually select pacers who can bowl between 136 to 150k only.... even a AZAAD Maidan Pacer from a club bowls 120 to 124k - if u have to select trundlers , it is a mess. trundlers can try their tricks and be successful on bangla tracks not every where in the world.
G_B_ Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I'm amazed that he doesn't bowls yorkers any more... He has the ability to bowl yorkers... Yorkers are wicket taking balls.. If you are bowling so many bouncers, why not slip in a yorker in between? Yadav doesn't knows how to set up a batsman. Low IQ level could be a reason that he's harming his career... Shami uses his brains... He should learn or get advice from Shami... this is what i mean when i say Umesh is not a thinking bowler. I do believe he would excel under somebody like Shane Warne. Somebody telling him what to bowl every ball. MSd standing behind the stumps cannot do that. The next two major ICC events outside india are going to be held in June in England. That is where you need bowlers like Shami Dhawal Kulkarni and Bhuvi. The ball will swing for them. In that sense India needs Umesh the most in test cricket.
asterix Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I have a hypothetical question... If Kohli would've been the captain in the Bangladesh ODI series, would the result be same? :hmmmm2:
G_B_ Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Umesh was our highest wicket taker in WC. 1-2 bad matches and sword is out while He keeps defending Jadeja. I am all for replacing Jadeja. But with what? Axar was terrible.
G_B_ Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I have a hypothetical question... If Kohli would've been the captain in the Bangladesh ODI series' date=' would the result be same? :hmmmm2:[/quote'] we would be white washed 3-0 You think Saha would have scored the same runs as MSD?
asterix Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 we would be white washed 3-0 You think Saha would have scored the same runs as MSD? Kohli would've scored more to compensate that. M$D was not the only one who won the match. Maybe he wouldn't be as defensive a captain as M$D was...
The Realist Posted June 25, 2015 Author Posted June 25, 2015 India finally win an ODI in Bangladesh but is everything alright between Dhoni and Kohli? Relief rather than joy was the defining emotion as India finally managed to salvage some pride against Bangladesh in the third One Day International. Finally the template worked for them – Mahendra Singh Dhoni played free-flowing cricket and Suresh Raina added the burst in the late overs after a Shikhar Dhawan half-century. A chase of 318 was always a steep ask for Bangladesh and they lost too many wickets in the process, finally losing by 77 runs. However, it was interesting to hear Dhoni’s comments at the presentation ceremony. Here’s a brief excerpt of what he said: “This win is good, but we need to make a decision if we want quick bowlers or if we want good bowlers even if they are not quick. We have been backing too many quick bowlers who haven't been bowling well. It might look a little convoluted, but that’s the way Dhoni has been talking for years now. And the message from him seems quite clear: India’s quick bowlers just aren’t good enough. This, despite Umesh Yadav topping the wicket charts for India at the 2015 World Cup. Why is that interesting? Because going by Virat Kohli’s selection tactics for the Test at Fatullah, the Indian Test captain obviously thinks very differently. On a typical subcontinental pitch, Kohli surprised many by going in with a team packed with five bowlers. And Kohli didn’t hold back on the pace quotient either – that bowling attack comprised Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav and Varun Aaron, arguably the fastest Indian bowlers in the circuit right now. The inference seems to be clear – Dhoni and Kohli are definitely not on the same page, at least in terms of how they rate their pace attack. And if the reports from home are true, it seems there’s some serious discord between the two current international captains of the Indian cricket team. It all started after the shock defeat to Bangladesh in the second ODI. Chanchal Bhattacharya, Dhoni’s coach, alleged in an interview that Dhoni was not able to perform properly due to the “dressing room atmosphere”. He further went on to add, “"He [Dhoni] is unable to deliver his best because of mental pressure and because of the dressing room's environment as well as the media. I haven't spoken to him but I feel the environment of the dressing room is bad." Around the same time, Raj Kumar Sharma, the coach for Virat Kohli, came down heavily on the Indian teams’ performance, calling the defeat “the Black Sunday of Indian cricket”. Though he did not blame Dhoni directly, Sharma blamed other aspects of the performance, including the selection and team strategies. Matters were also not helped when Dhoni gave a sarcastic rejoinder to questions about his captaincy saying he was willing to step down, if it would solve all the problems ailing Indian cricket. The victory in the third ODI notwithstanding, all of it points to some serious issues within the team. But if the reports of Dhoni and Kohli not being on the same page are true, it seems that the old problem of dressing room disunity has reared its ugly head again. It’s quite clear that Kohli’s style of captaincy is intrinsically very different from Dhoni – he’s far more instinctive and aggressive. In a far cry from Dhoni’s favourite “process over results” method, Kohli openly called on his team to “start winning abroad, instead of playing with the mindset of learning all the time”, before the first Test at Fatullah. This is not an ideal situation for Indian cricket to be in. Virat Kohli and MS Dhoni are both fine cricketers but it’s obvious that they have very different ideas about the captaincy process, which is liable to confuse the team. This is where Ravi Shastri must step in – he has to talk to both the skippers and sort this out fast. Because if this issue isn’t resolved soon, Indian cricket could witness another calamity like the 2007 World Cup. http://scroll.in/article/736606/india-finally-win-an-odi-in-bangladesh-amidst-rumours-of-dressing-room-discord
mishra Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 No Mr MSD. We lost because of poor batting. Bowlers did great job
mishra Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 Same bowler was the highest wicket taker in WC for us. I have never seen any other captain bash their bowler like that. +1. One knock and He wants a say so that his mates can be back in team
jf1gp_1 Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I felt he was trying to answer the media as well who has been critical of him not using express bowlers however to point finger at Umesh guy who actually has had a decent season in ODIs wasn't captain like
MCcricket Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I have not seen a worst test match captain in last 25 years easily, he cannot build a team , has vision, used his groupies n blames bowlers who have pace also his tactics are a shame a bowlers needs a captain who supports him n some bowlers can only play n bowl to aggressive fields n he doesn't like setting g them ,I wishes has was gone gone gone, luckiest guy around .
vvvslaxman Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I know Umesh was rubbish . But you can't throw him under the bus every single time. I have seen Mohit Sharma getting hit around. But he praises him when he does well. But he doesn't criticize when he doesn't.
mishra Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 I know Umesh was rubbish . But you can't throw him under the bus every single time. I have seen Mohit Sharma getting hit around. But he praises him when he does well. But he doesn't criticize when he doesn't. His love for Umesh seems personal. He wouldn't give any opportunity to mention him.
tweaker Posted June 25, 2015 Posted June 25, 2015 MSD loves his trundlers.Dhoni 's ideal attack is Vinay Kumar,Praveen Kumar,Rajat Bhatia,J P Yadav.He prefers Jadeja because he likes bowler,who darts the bowl .He does not like variations.We should get rid of him as early as possible
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