maniac Posted December 27, 2013 Posted December 27, 2013 and then went on to win rugby worldcup for england :two_thumbs_up: Johnson skipped the first few ipls....was out of the team...showed the world how Johnson can be used as a weapon which directly inspired Clarke....even Johnson credits ipls for his comeback :two_thumbs_up:
rkt.india Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 He has 3 more innings left, 2nd at Durban and 1st test in NZ. If he cannot revive himself, someone else needs to take his place i.e. Rayudu. We cannot carry a passenger in a young unproven inexperienced batting line up.
Number Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 He has 3 more innings left' date=' 2nd at Durban and 1st test in NZ. If he cannot revive himself, someone else needs to take his place i.e. Rayudu. We cannot carry a passenger in a young unproven inexperienced batting line up.[/quote'] He will play full tour in Nz. India carried Kohli in 3 tests in WI and 2 in Aus still he was given time.
rkt.india Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 He will play full tour in Nz. India carried Kohli in 3 tests in WI and 2 in Aus still he was given time. We had Laxman, Dravid, Raina performing in WI.
Detonator Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 I dont want to see Rohit or any other player to be treated like Vijay or Rahane, dropping them after a couple of flops. It will be difficult for a player to perform with an axe hanging over his head. Give Rohit another series, then we can discuss.
cowboysfan Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 I dont want to see Rohit or any other player to be treated like Vijay or Rahane' date=' dropping them after a couple of flops. It will be difficult for a player to perform with an axe hanging over his head. Give Rohit another series, then we can discuss.[/quote'] there is no axe,these guys will get a long rope till the end of english series .
King Tendulkar Posted December 28, 2013 Author Posted December 28, 2013 Fact of the day. Kaliis after 5 test matches was averaging 8. Be very very careful of being to judgemental
Old guy Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Fact of the day. Kaliis after 5 test matches was averaging 8. Be very very careful of being to judgemental Meh with rohit who has so much experience this should not be a problem and he has shown he can construct inning apart home ..problem is in technique not mind like pole here are making it sound
The Outsider Posted December 28, 2013 Posted December 28, 2013 Fact of the day. Kaliis after 5 test matches was averaging 8. Be very very careful of being to judgemental Another fact of the day - Kallis has tens of thousands of runs at a great average to back up those failures. Despite that he is retiring.
mastana Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Another fact of the day - Kallis has tens of thousands of runs at a great average to back up those failures. Despite that he is retiring. I think KT is talking about Kallis's first 5 tests. :hmmm:
vvvslaxman Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 ROhit sharma has to learn to play bat, pad together . He hangs the bat in the air far away from his body. Swing bowlers will exploit it. he deserves a run. But it is upto him to find his feet very quickly.
Old guy Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 ROhit sharma has to learn to play bat' date=' pad together . He hangs the bat in the air far away from his body. Swing bowlers will exploit it. he deserves a run. But it is upto him to find his feet very quickly.[/quote'] I told u guys this even before this series... I just don't get this perfect technique bs.. Until he accepts this weakness he will never improve.. He made same mistakes in South Africa in 2011 and has not improved batting against swing at all.. But temperament was better before this series so there is hope
Cricketics Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 ROhit sharma has to learn to play bat' date=' pad together . He hangs the bat in the air far away from his body. Swing bowlers will exploit it. he deserves a run. But it is upto him to find his feet very quickly.[/quote'] I remember Tendulkar answering someone's question in a show where he mentioned how he prepares for games overseas like in countries like Australia, England and South Africa. He said have someone bowl to you some "Throw-downs" using a tennis ball. That's one of the best practice. I agree with him. Come to think of it, it makes sense. Will help you adjust to the bounce and short ball easily. You will start playing a bit up too.
Old guy Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 I remember Tendulkar answering someone's question in a show where he mentioned how he prepares for games overseas like in countries like Australia, England and South Africa. He said have someone bowl to you some "Throw-downs" using a tennis ball. That's one of the best practice. I agree with him. Come to think of it, it makes sense. Will help you adjust to the bounce and short ball easily. You will start playing a bit up too. His problem is not bounce He is probably best player in team after Kohli of bounce ,maybe even best .. It's full swinging balls he has problem with bad foot work and most of times bad temperament ,it's bad combination and we saw the result
Cricketics Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 His problem is not bounce He is probably best player in team after Kohli of bounce ,maybe even best .. It's full swinging balls he has problem with bad foot work and most of times bad temperament ,it's bad combination and we saw the result That and it's actually mixture of both. He is the kind of player who hasn't looked too good against variations. Rewind back to the first game on tour, it took him 20 some balls to get off the mark as Steyn kept bowling outswing and some other random variations. It was hard for him to adjust. That is something he needs to work on. He plays the straight ball or or consistent, predictable swing with ease. You can see him playing spin pretty well too at times. If he predicts the swing of a bowler or a line, he does well. But in South Africa it gets tough as you have Philander coming in bowling something else, and then you have Steyn bowling barrage of out swingers along with one on leg and one bounce every over.
Old guy Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 That and it's actually mixture of both. He is the kind of player who hasn't looked too good against variations. Rewind back to the first game on tour, it took him 20 some balls to get off the mark as Steyn kept bowling outswing and some other random variations. It was hard for him to adjust. That is something he needs to work on. He plays the straight ball or or consistent, predictable swing with ease. You can see him playing spin pretty well too at times. If he predicts the swing of a bowler or a line, he does well. But in South Africa it gets tough as you have Philander coming in bowling something else, and then you have Steyn bowling barrage of out swingers along with one on leg and one bounce every over. There was no variation with steyn ..out swing after out swing and he kept missing .. Also predicting line and swing is basics and his last dismissal shows that he even does not do that He wa expecting ball to swing away and left ball for no reason That's not how u leave he ball..he did not even covered the off stump:hysterical:..even if you get out leaving it's better u get lbw rather than bowled which shows you were clueless and not even doing basics right
Cricketics Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 There was no variation with steyn ..out swing after out swing and he kept missing .. Also predicting line and swing is basics and his last dismissal shows that he even does not do that He wa expecting ball to swing away and left ball for no reason That's not how u leave he ball..he did not even covered the off stump:hysterical:..even if you get out leaving it's better u get lbw rather than bowled which shows you were clueless and not even doing basics right Low on confidence right now. Need to make a gritty 20-30 odd runs and get out of South Africa and he should be fine then. Good thing is we are playing New Zealand in ODI's before we play test. So will give him ample amount of time to bring his form back and improve on his average which Maniac12345 KEEPS sharing with us that he has 102.XX average.
Old guy Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Low on confidence right now. Need to make a gritty 20-30 odd runs and get out of South Africa and he should be fine then. Good thing is we are playing New Zealand in ODI's before we play test. So will give him ample amount of time to bring his form back. ' You think new Zeland would be easy for guy like him ? Southee will keep bowling where rohit finds it uncomfortable they are top class bowling unit And confidence after great year should have been fine but he just could not play this type of bowling all of sudden..keep in mind he has played Odis here before,he has toured here before with a team also he has played in foreign conditions before plenty of times and had a fantastic year on pitches with not much help .. It's just technical glitch so I hope unlike people here he is not making excuses and is working on it You mentioned tendulkar...I will mention Dravid who kept working on his technique till he retired In England he started playing inside the line much more to cover swing ...and scored hundreds before that he was struggling :winky:
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