chewy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 4th 100 in this year's in IPL, on another planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 48 minutes ago, MCcricket said: BS APPS BS PRODUCTS BS SPECIALS BS E-PAPER SIGN IN Business Standard TRENDING ON BS #AssemblyPolls #Monsoon Search You are here: Home » Beyond Business » People Frenemies in the Nation of Islam Virat's magnificent unbeaten 82 takes India to semis Is Virat Kohli a better cricketer than Sachin Tendulkar? With his amazing record as a finisher, especially in crunch situations, Virat Kohli is a match-winner like none other Dhruv Munjal | New Delhi March 28, 2016 Last Updated at 07:24 IST Tiny URL Add to My Page Print Email AddThis Sharing Buttons127411 Virat Kohli: Better than Sachin? ALSO READ Winning machine World T20: Why Dhoni can no longer afford to be on auto-pilot after Tuesday debacle ICC World T20: Confident India face a rattled Bangladesh today ICC World T20: MS Dhoni's last-ball sprint sets social media on fire BS POLL Do you believe Virat Kohli is a better cricketer than Sachin Tendulkar? Yes No Can't Say SUBMITVIEW POLLS By the time India's pivotal ICC World T20 game against Pakistan at Kolkata's Eden Gardens ended exactly a week ago, Virat Kohli had single-handedly taken his team home. He culled out 55 beautiful runs, as he drove, flicked and cut with practised ease. At one stage of the match, India's chances looked slim with three of its top-order batsmen back in the pavilion. Shikhar Dhawan and Suresh Raina had been consumed off consecutive balls by the furious pace of Mohammad Sami. The Pakistani pacers, led by the crafty Mohammad Amir, looked eager to avenge their defeat at the Asia Cup in Dhaka on February 27. The exit door for the Indian team had been well and truly unlatched. This was destined to end in calamity. Then, Kohli, like great men do in moments of crisis, took charge. After reaching his half-century, Kohli languidly raised his bat, walked up to Mahendra Singh Dhoni for a gentle embrace, and, almost belatedly, bowed down to someone in the crowd. Some 100 metres away, Sachin Tendulkar stood up in the aisles, furiously waving the Tricolour, his joy encapsulated in an incandescent smile. This was Kohli's veneration for his master: the man who had inspired him to pick up a cricket bat in the first place, the man he had grown up watching. Just that now, he was exactly like him, or, dare it be suggested, maybe a shade better while chasing down daunting totals? Somewhere in the middle of the Indian chase at Eden Gardens, the inevitability of a Kohli masterclass had become apparent; an unwavering certitude that comes with very few players. The same faith that has won India innumerable limited-overs matches in the last few years, the same conviction that slayed a hapless Pakistan in the 2012 Asia Cup. Coming in with nothing on the board, Kohli blazed his way to a 148-ball 183, helping his team chase down an improbable 330. Against Sri Lanka at Ranchi in 2014, Kohli scored 139 after India had lost four wickets for a little more than a hundred in pursuit of the islanders' 286. His dogged 49 on a lively track against Pakistan in Dhaka last month was another confirmation of his genius. For most, Tendulkar is a sacrosanct, almost untouchable figure; a player whose greatness transcended generations, whose achievements with the bat many feel will forever remain impregnable. It may well turn out to be that way. But Kohli, at least for now, threatens to throw that into disarray. Syed Kirmani, India's 1983 World Cup-winning wicket-keeper, says Tendulkar and Kohli are from two different eras and there comparison in terms of impact wouldn't be fair but acknowledges that "Kohli is well on his way to getting there". The 1990s saw the emergence of Tendulkar as India's greatest match-winner. He was so often India's sole warrior, separating his side from victory and defeat. But Tendulkar's most valiant attempts often ended in despairing defeat. Some of his finest knocks - the 143 against Shane Warne and Australia on that mystical Sharjah evening of 1998, the back-spasm-defying 136 in the Test match against Pakistan at Chepauk the following year, the whirlwind 175 against Australia in Hyderabad in 2008 - all ended in narrow losses for India. The 1990s also gave rise to the dopey myth that India seldom won when Tendulkar scored big. Even as the cynics fervidly stuck to this theory, the pragmatists dismissed it as twaddle. In a lot of ways, that's what it was. In the 234 ODI games that Tendulkar won while playing for India, he scored 33 centuries and 59 half-centuries: stellar numbers. Kohli's ODI numbers are, quite frankly, absurd. The 27-year-old is the fastest to 7,000 runs, bettering the mark set by Tendulkar by 28 innings. He has 15 hundreds in chases (out of his 25), as compared to Tendulkar's 17 (total: 49). The caveat is that Kohli's 15 have come in 91 outings, while Tendulkar took 232 matches to get his 17 tons. But then bats have got bigger, the grounds tinier and the game has tilted in favour of the batsman more than ever before. India's 1983 World Cup-winning captain, Kapil Dev, earlier this week described Kohli as someone who is better than Vivian Richards, Ricky Ponting, Brian Lara and Tendulkar. "The more I look at him, the more I'm convinced that he's the best out there," he said. Nayan Mongia, another former Indian wicket-keeper, refuses to draw comparisons between the two, but says that Kohli is as good as any match-winner India has seen in the last two decades. "When it comes to winning matches, he is up there with the best," says Mongia. In October 2013, Kohli scored two blistering centuries that first spawned his comparison with Tendulkar. Against Australia, Kohli struck 100 in 52 balls - the fastest hundred by an Indian in ODI cricket - at Jaipur, followed by 115 in Nagpur exactly two weeks later. India chased down scores in excess of 350 in both the games. For this generation, these two knocks were the equivalent of what Tendulkar had done at Sharjah 15 years earlier. The same grace, power and poise: qualities that when put into full effect give captains and bowlers sleepless nights. Even Kohli's bat, as Harsha Bhogle pointed out, was identical to Tendulkar's - sporting the same sticker. Kohli had arrived, and how. This was the shooting of the first scene of the making of a modern-day legend. An entire movie was to follow. Pradeep Sangwan spent almost his entire childhood playing with Kohli. The two first became teammates while playing for the Delhi under-15 team. Sangwan has seen Kohli go from precocious talent to world-beater from close quarters. "You look at him, do you see any weaknesses? I don't. There just aren't any," he says. Last summer, just before the World Cup, Kohli struggled against the moving ball outside his off-stump, a weakness that was brutally exposed by the likes of Mitchell Johnson and Steven Finn. "That was a problem. But he corrected that very quickly. There is no sign of that now," says Sangwan. "That's what makes him so good." Kohli fears no one. Tendulkar struggled appallingly against James Anderson late in his career. Another former cricketer, who agrees to speak on the condition of anonymity, says that no discernible shortcoming is what makes Kohli better than Tendulkar. "Tendulkar struggled against a particular type of bowler or opposition. You could get at him. With Kohli, he treats everybody with the same disdain. And, his self-belief is incredible." Self-belief, which makes him withstand the pressure in crunch situations, is something ingrained deep in Kohli's persona; the "don't worry, I will get you home" kind of stuff. "He has always liked a challenge. More important, he wants to overcome that challenge. That's where he gets this self-belief from," says Rajkumar Sharma, Kohli's childhood coach. Tendulkar, smothered by the weight of expectation, often crumbled in key situations. Two World Cup finals - 2003 and 2011 - are prime examples. In both the games, India was chasing sizeable totals and Tendulkar imploded. But then, Kohli, at this stage of his career, isn't bound by the kind of pressure that Tendulkar was subject to for maybe far too long. Another former cricketer, on the condition of anonymity, says that Kohli's ability to manipulate the opposition and his chanceless style of batting is what sets him apart. "Once he's in, he's in. He just doesn't give you a chance. And, you can't say that about too many batsmen," he says. True. Even AB de Villiers and Steven Smith, two of the most prolific run-scorers in the game today, always offer bowlers a window of opportunity. With Kohli, that is seldom the case; such is the assuredness that accompanies him. Kohli's exploits on the field have helped rich returns off it. The Indian Test captain currently endorses 13 brands, including Pepsi, MRF, Audi and Tissot. His bat deal with MRF is the most lucrative among all his teammates. Comparisons with Tendulkar here too are obvious. Kohli is quite the antithesis of his idol. Tendulkar was always grounded, soft-spoken - a piece of pre-liberalisation conservatism. Kohli, who breathes fire and hurls abuses at the opposition, unfriendly crowds included, is the new India: in your face, unapologetic and result-oriented. Varun Gupta, managing director (India), American Appraisal, the company that every year evaluates the Indian Premier League as a brand, says that Kohli may surpass his idol in terms of pure dollar value but Tendulkar will forever remain a brand pioneer. "It's fair to say that there is more money in cricket today than 15 years ago. Since they are from different eras, Kohli may actually end up making more, but Tendulkar will forever be the ultimate benchmark," he says. Brand expert Harish Bijoor describes Tendulkar as "brand ambassador emeritus". "Kohli, with his image of an aggressive and brash young man, can attract big brands. But competing with Tendulkar on that front is asking for maybe too much," says Bijoor. Gupta adds that what makes Kohli so appealing is his visibility: "He comes out to bat early and stays in for long periods. Moreover, he plays all three formats." A genius that cuts across all three formats -perhaps that's what illustrates Kohli's greatness. Twenty years ago, Tendulkar did not have to grapple with the prospect of playing three entirely different formats of cricket in a matter of days. He did not have to face the new ball on a green top in a Test match followed by the daunting task of scoring at 10 runs an over in a T20 game three days later. Kohli is faced with that very proposition every once in a while, and the results are spellbinding. "Kohli can score against any team in any format. He is the embodiment of the modern-day batsman," says Mongia. Tendulkar played just one T20 international. Given his penchant for decimating bowling attacks, you sometimes wish T20 cricket was introduced 10 years earlier than it actually was - when Tendulkar was at his absolute peak. He would have been the ideal fit. Maybe, God gave us Kohli to make up for that. For someone who averages an eye-popping 52.50 in T20 internationals (in excess of 80 while chasing), Kohli is far from the swashbuckling, ball-crushing batsman that this format perennially craves. He isn't the greatest innovator either. He is just an all-round batting monster whose last shot is hit with the same earnestness as his first, the beauty in each stroke startlingly palpable. As a complete batsman, Tendulkar had few peers; he was an immortal among mortals, someone who rewrote record books with the same easy flourish with which he wielded his willow. His numbers may forever prove to be insurmountable. But once in a while, a young man challenges the old guard, throwing down the gauntlet and then thwarting it himself.Virat Kohli is that man. And he is just 27. Some random rants in that article. 1) Kohli beat Sachin's ODI numbers because he used to bat low and took 79 matches before he hit his first 100. After that he was phenomenoal 2) Examples of him not making it in final after doing good in leagues but no fingers pointed at Kohli for the world cup or T20 world cup recently when he failed 3)Comparing Sharjah cup outside India with series win in India And many more such fallacies and illogical comparisons Sachin was known for single handedly winning LOIs. So the article and this poster are also making up blatant lies Believe me, I have more than enough faith than Kohli can beat all of Sachin's numbers and can be greater than him. He has the hunger for runs, love for the game, work ethics, fitness which only greats of the game had. However to say that he has already beaten 21 years of someone when he still has a long way to go is just trying to be sensational to sell news. And I am sure Kohli would be the first one to agree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 hours ago, Viper said: Full of lies just like the selfish one.. He didn't have lower strike rate than sachin.. Consider getting eyes checked ? http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2012/engine/current/match/535797.html All he ever cared was about his 100's Virat single handily wins matches unlike Sachin He is really over rated Virat is way better infact the BEST Sachin also single handedly won many, many matches in LOIs so you are just a bald face lying troll and as usual your true colors are slowly coming out after acting well for a few months on every forum under a different name Kohli played slower than Sachin most of that innings and still after hitting in the end ended up couple of numbers more than him.. He wasn't playing for his 100 was he? Anyways there is absolutely no sense engaging with a troll who is incapable of a debate Bigg Brother 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PBN Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 would love to see kohli surpass tendulkar in all aspects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBN Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Some experts like @New guy have said Kohli is not a test player Rasgulla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Am I one the same ICF where T20s are always mocked and is considered as tamasha cricket , and suddenly people are declaring Kohli better than everybody because of performance in T20s and IPL PBN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippoSucks Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 (edited) Why do we need to compare great batsmen from different generations? Just be happy that for 5 decades we have had some of the best batsmen in the world. Edited May 19, 2016 by HippoSucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HippoSucks Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 This is a great interview and answers the people who think he is too conservative in T20s. http://www.iplt20.com/news/2016/features/7772/i-have-surprised-myself-virat Your approach to a T20 innings is very similar to that in the ODIs. You start off sedately and then build the momentum along the way. Is that something you have adapted in your T20 batting? I understand that I am playing pretty well right now and that teams would want to frustrate me. I see that they have plans outside the off-stump for me and they keep two fielders on the boundary straight away. They want me to do something stupid. At that point you need to understand that they want you out. They would rather not have you batting on 15 off 20 balls because they know that once you get in you will cash in later. But I have come to terms with that. I don’t mind playing run-a-ball for the first 20-25 balls because I know that I can get 40-45 runs in the next 15 balls. Nowadays I back myself to do that. Now I believe more in my ability to hit sixes or pick gaps for boundaries in the final overs. As you correctly said, it is pretty much how I approach an ODI innings – play with caution initially and then go for the big shots. - See more at: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 On 17/05/2016 at 0:08 AM, MCcricket said: To me he is the best batsmen to come out of India n his consistency is unmatched, I rank him above Tendulkar, Lara, Richards for sheer number of runs , contribution towards teams win, rarely fails or gets beaten Virat is the greatest batsmen that I have seen till date, no if or but, he already is the greatest ODI cricketer n will soon get there in Test where he is good but not great yet Do you really think Virat > Viv Richards and Tendulkar ? Have you watched Sachin and Viv at their prime ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 What a legend he is His thought process is just like Sanki a genius ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udEhiT-EBmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominick Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Kohli has been truely magnificant so far and he again showed his class yesterday. Truely a gem of an innings and literally blew away the punjab bowlers left right and center! BTW guys, I came across this new cricket App on the Google play store that gives really quick scores and is really light as well. You guys can download it from here - goo.gl/gV9mJy and the great part is that it is only 5.5 MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Kohli intentionally kept Gayle out to nick the limelight from him. Once Gayle is back, Team is winning Rasgulla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWall Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, mishra said: Kohli intentionally kept Gayle out to nick the limelight from him. Once Gayle is back, Team is winning Your Nimhans logic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Those who havent watched Tnedulkar from day 1 have no rights compare anyone based on the numbers and performances of 2012... And those who have watched him arent comparing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Those who havent watched Tnedulkar from day 1 have no rights compare anyone based on the numbers and performances of 2012... And those who have watched him arent comparing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosingh Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 LOL cant believe how angry people are getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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