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1 hour ago, Finer said:

The only thing that matters is the narrative of the native Kashmiris, not the narrative of Indians and certainly not Pakistanis either. Only different is the native Kashmiris are pro-Pakistani and you hate that. So it is called defying the truth, and force yourself to entertain to the delusion in order to avoid the reality.

 

Otherwise, the reality is just trip away to IOK and Azad Kashmir in person. :--D

please watch this for the narrative of the native Kashmiri

 

 

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On 04/08/2016 at 2:05 PM, MechEng said:
18 minutes ago, Finer said:

Because Indians are dumb. Take a look at video-confession of Ajit Doval to the entire world. Not long ago, Indian agent was caught trespassing on Balochistan through Iran. This is beyond the stupidity of Indians.

 

It is not rocket science. Pakistan is fighting hard to fight against terrorism on massive levels whereas Indians are pumping terrorism against Pakistan judging by the patterns in Karachi/Balochistan/KPK/Afghanistan/IOK.

 

Despite of Pakistan being Muslim and recent fiasco of Osama getting caught, USA trust Pakistan enough to bring Pakistan to the task force against terrorism whereas Indian, despite not being Muslim, is not trusted enough to be brought to task force against terrorism.

 

What does that say? India is funding terrorism whereas Pakistan is fighting against terrorism. Unfortunately, the reality is very alien to Indian medias hence the confusion.

 

you are a retard. 

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7 hours ago, Finer said:

That's why it is called take a trip to Azad Kashmir in person. I guess you are afraid you might not get the result you hope to. Hence Indian medias for you? :--D

Calling something 'Azad' doesnt make it so. 
I am afraid you have no basis to say what the results are, given that its Pakistan occupied Kashmiris who whine that they have rigged elections, not the Indian Kashmiris, who's elections have been fair and legal.

 

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5 hours ago, Finer said:

Because Indians are dumb. Take a look at video-confession of Ajit Doval to the entire world. Not long ago, Indian agent was caught trespassing on Balochistan through Iran. This is beyond the stupidity of Indians.

 

It is not rocket science. Pakistan is fighting hard to fight against terrorism on massive levels whereas Indians are pumping terrorism against Pakistan judging by the patterns in Karachi/Balochistan/KPK/Afghanistan/IOK.

 

Despite of Pakistan being Muslim and recent fiasco of Osama getting caught, USA trust Pakistan enough to bring Pakistan to the task force against terrorism whereas Indian, despite not being Muslim, is not trusted enough to be brought to task force against terrorism.

 

What does that say? India is funding terrorism whereas Pakistan is fighting against terrorism. Unfortunately, the reality is very alien to Indian medias hence the confusion.

 

Pakistan is fighting terrorists it can't control. Pakistan is not fighting Jaish-e-Mohammed or LeT, who are terrorists geared towards India. Only the TTP, that too after they stopped terrorizing Afghanistan exclusively and instead also started to terrorize Pakistan.

 

There is no point in bringing India to fight terrorism for USA, since India is not hosting terrorism or allowing them to go through a porous border. Pakistan is the one who is hosting terrorism and allows them to go through the porous borders of Kashmir and Afghanistan, hence US is trying to get Pakistan involved. What is so complicated about that ?!

 

Unfortunately, Pakistanis don't get the right to call Indian media biassed, since their media is even more biassed and has a lower media independence score than that of Pakistan. Any sane man will trust Indian media more than Pakistan's due to this fact.

 

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More people died today in bomb blast in Baluchistan than in entire month long drama after a terrorist's encounter in Kashmir.

 

Someone ask whether we should jointly fight terrorism or fuel it in the name of azadi or religion.

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9 hours ago, Finer said:

Because you say so?

 

I mean your own in-charge exposed the dirty secret to the entire world and Pakistan is exposed?

 

Are we talking about Indian agent just got caught trespassing on Balochistan through Iran? :--D

 

 

You are repeating the same thing. I am sure AQ, IS, etc think that world is conspiring against them too .... As I said Pak has zero creditability .... your unnecessary, delusional and faulty arguments only serve as comic relief

 

May I remind you that OBL was found in Pak, and ofc there is Hafeez Saeed. And I am sure they portray countries like Ind as terrorists and find "valid" reasons for their cause but it is people like them who have international bounties on their heads 

 

 

 

 

 

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Above discussion is an example of why talks with Pak are futile

 

Ideally, everyone should be treated as an equal but not Pak as it has criminal tendencies 

 

Even if Ind takes back POK through a fair process, Pak will wrongly complain about unfairness and keep creating trouble. Pak's existence is based on opposing Ind so that ideology is not going to change 

 

For those who are dreaming about a European Union kind of sub con, the reality of pulling that up with Pak is improbable. At one point, yours truly had harbored such misconceptions too. The fact is that Pak shows duplicity 

 

One of the best ways forward is the Pak solution that I had posted. Ind should earnestly try to implement that 

 

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9 hours ago, Finer said:

The only thing that matters is the narrative of the native Kashmiris, not the narrative of Indians and certainly not Pakistanis either. Only different is the native Kashmiris are pro-Pakistani and you hate that. So it is called defying the truth, and force yourself to entertain to the delusion in order to avoid the reality.

 

Otherwise, the reality is just trip away to IOK and Azad Kashmir in person. :--D

I see paks using this word often did some us diplomat use this word while in a mission and your country thought it was cool to use it where ever you like.. Like 'aint' thats an other word i see lots of you use.  Hey all your base are belong to us muhahahah. 

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8 hours ago, Finer said:

Because Indians are dumb. Take a look at video-confession of Ajit Doval to the entire world. Not long ago, Indian agent was caught trespassing on Balochistan through Iran. This is beyond the stupidity of Indians.

 

It is not rocket science. Pakistan is fighting hard to fight against terrorism on massive levels whereas Indians are pumping terrorism against Pakistan judging by the patterns in Karachi/Balochistan/KPK/Afghanistan/IOK.

 

Despite of Pakistan being Muslim and recent fiasco of Osama getting caught, USA trust Pakistan enough to bring Pakistan to the task force against terrorism whereas Indian, despite not being Muslim, is not trusted enough to be brought to task force against terrorism.

 

What does that say? India is funding terrorism whereas Pakistan is fighting against terrorism. Unfortunately, the reality is very alien to Indian medias hence the confusion.

 

Lol this guy really believes what he says. 

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43 minutes ago, zen said:

Pak repeats its "narrative" so many times that it starts to believe that it is true .... Unfortunately for Pak, for others it only serves as comedy

Add to that lots of opinionated conjectured hyperbole with lame borrowed cliche terms like 'end game'  etc a pathetic attempt to make themselves sound intellectual. There is utter trash in their intelligentsia actually, at times unabashedly discriminatory as well. Poor society overall, reeks with malice.

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10 hours ago, Finer said:

Because Indians are dumb. Take a look at video-confession of Ajit Doval to the entire world. Not long ago, Indian agent was caught trespassing on Balochistan through Iran. This is beyond the stupidity of Indians.

 

It is not rocket science. Pakistan is fighting hard to fight against terrorism on massive levels whereas Indians are pumping terrorism against Pakistan judging by the patterns in Karachi/Balochistan/KPK/Afghanistan/IOK.

 

Despite of Pakistan being Muslim and recent fiasco of Osama getting caught, USA trust Pakistan enough to bring Pakistan to the task force against terrorism whereas Indian, despite not being Muslim, is not trusted enough to be brought to task force against terrorism.

 

What does that say? India is funding terrorism whereas Pakistan is fighting against terrorism. Unfortunately, the reality is very alien to Indian medias hence the confusion.

 

 

I thought we have ICF awards still available. Do we have few medals left over? I think they must be issued to deserving posts. Cant find better comedy. This made my day already.  hahahaha hahaha hahaha .....................

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10 hours ago, Finer said:

Despite of Pakistan being Muslim and recent fiasco of Osama getting caught, USA trust Pakistan enough to bring Pakistan to the task force against terrorism whereas Indian, despite not being Muslim, is not trusted enough to be brought to task force against terrorism.

What does that say? India is funding terrorism whereas Pakistan is fighting against terrorism. Unfortunately, the reality is very alien to Indian medias hence the confusion.

 

:facepalm:    if the terrorist are in Pak, do you expect people to task Thailand to bring those elements in control in Pak? 

 

Thanks for the comedy though! 

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On ‎8‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 2:55 PM, Finer said:

Are you justifying the recent massive genocide against the native Kashmiris by citing historical record?

These are not just records. This pertinent history that must be considered before making any decision on Kashmir. Here is the comparison

 

  • Kashmiri Pandits were in majority for 100s of years. Muslims were invaders.
  • Those who died are terrorist involved in stone pelting and other terrorist activities, Pandits did not take to terrorism
  • Indian population in general is aware of mistakes of our military and not one sane indian condones these mistakes, muslim militants and some so call liberals don't care of Kashmir pandits on the contrary
  • Those who have been kicked out have nowhere to go and it is as recent as 25 years. People still own properties but cannot return because your fundo extremist
  • There is no role for Pak to play here, you guys attacked 3 times, as recently as Kargil

 

I can go on and the list will not end. The point is you can do whatever you like but you don't get Kashmir. Go find other place to spread your misguided propaganda.

 

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4 hours ago, Finer said:

Precisely why i am not replying. Promise is made not to offend you soft bunch of guys. :--D

U should be ashamed of yourself for views that u hold. Being an educated young person, you are the future of ur country n future of this world.  

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Protests against Pak in POK

 

"GILGIT CITY: Protesters have taken to the streets in the Gilgit-Baltistan region+ of Pakistan-occupied Kashmir(PoK) against human rights abuses and crackdown by the Pakistani security forces.

Over 500 youth, including Gilgit's top political activist Baba Jan, have been taken into custody by the Pakistani security forces.



Angry protesters said these young men were imprisoned for demanding political rights and asking the Pakistani army to leave Gilgit's soil.



Raising "anti-Pakistan" slogans, angry protesters took to the streets in Gilgit town, Astore, Diamer and Hunza of the the Gilgit- Baltistan region, which is only Shia-dominated area in Sunni-dominated Pakistan.



The political crackdown and arrests in Gilgit were made against people protesting against the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor+ (CPEC), which they said would only benefit China and Pakistan's Punjabi traders.



The youth of Gilgit are not being involved in any manner with the CPEC and those who are protesting are being harshly dealt with, protesters said. "

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