Vilander Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 They separate a 2 year old from her mother ? scum.. even if its a illegal immigrant. This is what special places in hell are reserved for. http://www.wbal.com/article/320158/109/photographer-details-the-emotional-moment-that-created-viral-border-photo-of-crying-toddler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 nothing wrong it. you commit a crime, you go to jail. you dont take your kid with you in jail. Is this any different? UrmiSinhaRay, Moochad and Tibarn 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattieboy Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 38 minutes ago, rkt.india said: nothing wrong it. you commit a crime, you go to jail. you dont take your kid with you in jail. Is this any different? That goes for asylum seekers too who present themselves at the order ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 A middle ground of detaining illegals/refugees while keeping families together can and should be worked out. Illegal immigration should be tackled by all responsible govts. How one deals with contributing vs leech/criminals illegals can be a big debate but at the very least they need to be registered rather than ignored for convenience of businesses or bargain seeking employers/customers. Having them continue illegally encourages their exploitation. Tibarn, UrmiSinhaRay and Moochad 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thread title edited. @Vilander avoid typing such stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, jalebi_bhai said: Thread title edited. @Vilander avoid typing such stuff. Thanks man. I immediately regretted did not have an option to edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 22, 2018 Author Share Posted June 22, 2018 7 hours ago, rkt.india said: nothing wrong it. you commit a crime, you go to jail. you dont take your kid with you in jail. Is this any different? Assylum seekers are not commiting a crime. There is a right to live. And kids bave right to not be seperated from their family. Basic human rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 This can be argued to be atrocity literature. Suppose: A serial killer returns home to is family, a wife and baby daughter in a house, but the police come to arrest him at his home and some journalist is also there with a camera and films the chaos, it's safe to assume that that baby daughter would also be crying. "Atrocity literature" shouldn't be the basis of opinions on legality/crime, in my opinion UrmiSinhaRay, Turning_track, Moochad and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainfade Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn?ocid=spartandhp Quote Denis said his wife and daughter were never separated by border control agents and remain together. He revealed that his wife had previously mentioned her wish to go to the United States for a 'better future' but did not tell him nor any of their family members that she was planning to make the trek. Moochad and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjabi_khota Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 fake news actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 17 hours ago, Vilander said: Assylum seekers are not commiting a crime. There is a right to live. And kids bave right to not be seperated from their family. Basic human rights Every country has the right prevent them. Like India has the right to stop or arrest Rohingya asylum seekers coming from Myanmar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Every country has the right prevent them. Like India has the right to stop or arrest Rohingya asylum seekers coming from Myanmar. Not separate kids from their parents. It's inhuman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Brainfade said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/exclusive-theyre-together-and-theyre-safe-father-of-honduran-two-year-old-who-became-the-face-of-the-family-separation-crisis-when-she-was-photographed-in-tears-as-her-mother-was-searched-by-us-border-control-speaks-out/ar-AAyYopn?ocid=spartandhp Relieved for the kid in pic. There are 2300 less fortunate kids who are separated from their parents though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 15 hours ago, Tibarn said: This can be argued to be atrocity literature. Suppose: A serial killer returns home to is family, a wife and baby daughter in a house, but the police come to arrest him at his home and some journalist is also there with a camera and films the chaos, it's safe to assume that that baby daughter would also be crying. "Atrocity literature" shouldn't be the basis of opinions on legality/crime, in my opinion This particular pic is not what it seems agreed. But are you suggesting it's OK to separate kids from their parents when they are seeking asylum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vilander said: Not separate kids from their parents. It's inhuman. You cant keep kids in jail with parents. So, you will have to separate, which is far more human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 24 minutes ago, Vilander said: This particular pic is not what it seems agreed. But are you suggesting it's OK to separate kids from their parents when they are seeking asylum ? It depends on why they are seeking asylum. If they are seeking asylum because of oppression where their life is in danger....then it is fine. If they are seeking asylum for economic reasons and a better life , then it is wrong. One can't just walk into another country illegally like that. One has to follow the rules of a country. Period. The parents should not put their families at such risk. The parents are responsible for what happened. Entring a country without legal permit is a crime. The parent was commiting a crime and forcing a child into such a situation. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Vilander said: This particular pic is not what it seems agreed. But are you suggesting it's OK to separate kids from their parents when they are seeking asylum ? In most western countries the govt has the right to seperate children from parents if they are at risk. Parents pushing children across borders ( unless there is oppression ) are putting their children in danger. Besides this, illegal migrants are the a pain for any country. These people do not have any respect for rules( hence have no issues breaking such serious ruled) and no respect for life. They enter a country without any job and place to stay. They bring down the living standard of the host country. Every country has a right to protect their borders from such irresponsible rule breaker. If this woman was a drug mule travelling with a child...would the authorities not seperate the child from her or she should be a more child friendly jail because she put the child in danger. May not be the same crimes but the issue is the same. Don't put your child in a situation where the child will be put in danger. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Vilander said: This particular pic is not what it seems agreed. But are you suggesting it's OK to separate kids from their parents when they are seeking asylum ? If the US removes itself from any agreement governing asylum seeks, then of course it is okay; in that case, they are free to let whoever they want in and out of their country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Difference between rule taking and rule making countries... Rule takers cant even protect themselves from jihadi hordes in the name of human rights. While rule makers get to arbitrarily decide where the line is or if one exists at all. Suck on that, losers UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Tibarn said: If the US removes itself from any agreement governing asylum seeks, then of course it is okay; in that case, they are free to let whoever they want in and out of their country. Its never OK to violate human rights. If you do it's crime against humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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